Player Suggestion Marcus Maddison

[Champagneblade]

I can see a much more likely United move being Reeves for nothing and then Maddison in the JTW when he'll have less than 6 months left.

Reeves was involved in almost all the goals when MK spanked Man U.

 

[Pinchy]

So not commenting on any perceived weakness is wrong is it? "Why point out that one of the brightest prospects we've had for years made one mistake...". By reducing Brooks' mistakes to a single error is to dismiss what comes with youth, that by getting carried away with a young player's performances too early in their career can be as damaging to their chances as being hyper-critical can be. I wrote that what is needed is "a little patience", not that he should remain amongst the younger players which would stifle his development. How is that damning of Brooks and what he may develop into? I hope the lad goes on to bigger and better things, I also know that to be able to differentiate between constructive criticism and not turning a blind eye to any weaknesses he has will also be damaging to his career. I expect Wilder will have made the same critical assessment to Brooks, something he'll have to get used to if he's to improve his game.

I watched Brooks attentively throughout Friday's game. There were a few things he needs to reflect on and work harder to improve, the same as some senior players often do, so how you consider this "damning" escapes me? It goes hand in hand with trying to make your mark in a business that is robust and ruthless, or perhaps you feel that being uncritical is the best path to take if a young player is to learn and improve?

Brooks is the current Bladey Boyband obsession. People who have never seen him play have decided he must be first name on the team sheet with a wage to match.

We simply have to Givimago.

 

[Blade58]

JL Sports UK ️‏ @JLSportsUK 4h4 hours ago
Sheffield United, Leeds United and Aston Villa are all interested in signing Peterborough's Marcus Maddison #SUFC #LUFC #AVFC #PUFC #Blades

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Brooks is the current Bladey Boyband obsession. People who have never seen him play have decided he must be first name on the team sheet with a wage to match.

We simply have to Givimago.

Of course, there's no mention of ANYONE suggesting he be the first name on the teamsheet....

But let's not let that get the way of your Anti Bladey Positivity Obsession.

 

[robbiez666]

JL Sports UK ️‏ @JLSportsUK 4h4 hours ago
Sheffield United, Leeds United and Aston Villa are all interested in signing Peterborough's Marcus Maddison #SUFC #LUFC #AVFC #PUFC #Blades

That's us out then.

 

[JJBlade]

Marcus Maddison - No chance
Will cost £1 million plus
So that is well out of reach for a mere well supported Championship Club

Ryan Leonard - No chance
Will probably carry on in the same vein and attract the attention of a more ambitious club like Bolton or Millwall, who we will absolutely refuse to compete with

Ricky Holmes - Ship has sailed and gets more money at a League One club than we will pay him

 

[davidblade]

There is some negativity about isn't there come on lads get a grip, season hasn't started yet !!

 

[S64 Blade]

Marcus Maddison - No chance
Will cost £1 million plus
So that is well out of reach for a mere well supported Championship Club

Ryan Leonard - No chance
Will probably carry on in the same vein and attract the attention of a more ambitious club like Bolton or Millwall, who we will absolutely refuse to compete with

Ricky Holmes - Ship has sailed and gets more money at a League One club than we will pay him

On a come down from Tramlines mate? Cheer up!

 

[JJBlade]

On a come down from Tramlines mate? Cheer up!

Ha ha he

 

[FriethBlade]

On a come down from Tramlines mate? Cheer up!

Problem is he's very close to the mark. Money isn't everything but when clubs like Bristol City and Reading are spending millions on players and the pigs forward line is paid as much as our entire team you know we are slipping behind.

 

[S64 Blade]

Problem is he's very close to the mark. Money isn't everything but when clubs like Bristol City and Reading are spending millions on players and the pigs forward line is paid as much as our entire team you know we are slipping behind.

Slipping behind is finishing below said teams in the league come May next year.

 

[robbiez666]

It's a gradual process though. A slow build. The longer we stay in this division, the more our wages will rise. However, we could easily go down and then be stuck with players on long contracts and high wages which could sink us.

England is an expensive transfer market. My frustration with the club is not doing more to look elsewhere.

 

[Ricky]

I think we'll only go in for Maddison when, sorry if we sell Brooks. Similar players in quite a lot of ways, but different too.

 

[blades78]

Problem is he's very close to the mark. Money isn't everything but when clubs like Bristol City and Reading are spending millions on players and the pigs forward line is paid as much as our entire team you know we are slipping behind.

We are well behind, we've been in League 1 for 6 years. I struggle to understand how some think we'll be mid table. I'm not saying its beyond us, but I'd be happy finishing 4th from bottom tbh. There is a bigger gap between Championship and League 1 than Premiership and Championship nowadays. The parachute payments are a joke and to make it worse they last 4 years instead of 2.

 

[S64 Blade]

We are well behind, we've been in League 1 for 6 years. I struggle to understand how some think we'll be mid table. I'm not saying its beyond us, but I'd be happy finishing 4th from bottom tbh. There is a bigger gap between Championship and League 1 than Premiership and Championship nowadays. The parachute payments are a joke and to make it worse they last 4 years instead of 2.

Is the gap bigger now between the Championship and League One? I'm not totally convinced.

Below is a list of all teams who were relegated in their first season back in either the Premier League or Championship. More teams went straight back down during that period, from the Premier League, than they did Championship. Suggesting the Premier League is still the most difficult.

Premier League
2016/17 - Hull and Middlesborugh
2015/16 - Norwich
2014/15 - Burnley and QPR
2013/14 - Cardiff
2012/13 - Reading
2011/12 - None

Total - 7

Championship
2016/17 - Wigan
2015/16 - MK Dons
2014/15 - None
2013/14 - Donny & Yeovil
2012/13 - None
2011/12 - None

Total - 4

 

[blades78]

Fair point, but history beyond last season isn't really relevant due to the new TV deals and the sides coming down have 4 years of parachute payments. Hull, Boro and Sunderland get £47m each just for this season!!! In addition the likes of Wolves, Wednesday and a few others have had new owners who will probably throwing quite a bit of money. I know money doesn't guarantee success, but I think we can't keep hoping Wilder that continues his rich vein of form in the transfer market, can we?

We really need to get hold of a couple of quality loan players (I except that we aren't going to pay big transfer fees) imo. Particularly in attacking areas.

 

[B14Nco]

Fair point, but history beyond last season isn't really relevant due to the new TV deals and the sides coming down have 4 years of parachute payments. Hull, Boro and Sunderland get £47m each just for this season!!! In addition the likes of Wolves, Wednesday and a few others have had new owners who will probably throwing quite a bit of money. I know money doesn't guarantee success, but I think we can't keep hoping Wilder that continues his rich vein of form in the transfer market, can we?

We really need to get hold of a couple of quality loan players (I except that we aren't going to pay big transfer fees) imo. Particularly in attacking areas.

Agree with a lot of this... not sure it's as big a jump between lg1-champ and champ-prem but it's a new world now.

Can't see a team doing a double promotion again... and the only positive thing to come out of it is that if the pigs had splashed the cash like they have 1/2 years earlier they'd have flown up.

There is part of me that thinks maybe we wait it out... as there are 100% going to be some massive clubs that fold in the coming years... But even when clubs do go out of business there will be some chump throwing money at some other stupid little club that replaces them.

 

[blades78]

Agree with a lot of this... not sure it's as big a jump between lg1-champ and champ-prem but it's a new world now.

Can't see a team doing a double promotion again... and the only positive thing to come out of it is that if the pigs had splashed the cash like they have 1/2 years earlier they'd have flown up.

There is part of me that thinks maybe we wait it out... as there are 100% going to be some massive clubs that fold in the coming years... But even when clubs do go out of business there will be some chump throwing money at some other stupid little club that replaces them.

Part of me hopes that huge club goes out of business soon and the money invested in fees and wages starts to drop down. How many people had heard of Mendy 3 months ago, now the most expensive defender in the world. £52m and Monaco bought him for £11m last year!!

 

[B14Nco]

Fair point, but history beyond last season isn't really relevant due to the new TV deals and the sides coming down have 4 years of parachute payments. Hull, Boro and Sunderland get £47m each just for this season!!! In addition the likes of Wolves, Wednesday and a few others have had new owners who will probably throwing quite a bit of money. I know money doesn't guarantee success, but I think we can't keep hoping Wilder that continues his rich vein of form in the transfer market, can we?

We really need to get hold of a couple of quality loan players (I except that we aren't going to pay big transfer fees) imo. Particularly in attacking areas.

...and that's the other thing... like you say how long can we expect Wilder to a) work magic and b) work magic and not be offered a bigger and better job.

For me the longer we try and do so the worse we get. As I don't agree with the concept of the longer we stay in the division the bigger the budget gets... I think it will be more as soon as we lose momentum we'll be on a downward track.

Basically the only way out of this is to be given bucket loads of money by someone that doesn't really care and take a risk.

However we're not in that position so totally agree with our approach... there is no other option.

On a positive note... I also believe if we had a bit of luck across just about everything... e.g:

Current players being able to step up.
New players being better than everyone thought.
Young players coming through being good enough.
Loans being awesome (in the Abrahams bracket)

We could surprise people... and I will believe this is possible until someone proves it's not possible.
UTB.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

I think we'll only go in for Maddison when, sorry if we sell Brooks. Similar players in quite a lot of ways, but different too.

Similar but different eh?

Splinters in yer arse from sitting on the fence?


Nothing like each other at all.

 

[Ricky]

Similar but different eh?

Splinters in yer arse from sitting on the fence?


Nothing like each other at all.

Knew I'd have to explain it to somebody.

Both left footed attacking midfielders who can play right, left or centre. Both capable of moments of magic. Both ball carriers. Both direct. Both will score and create goals.

Different because Maddison is more about pace and a powerful left foot whereas Brooks is more about guile and creativity. Mentally they're different too. Maddison can be a bit erratic, Brooks is more level headed.

 

[EckingtonBlade]

Apparently quite a few scouts were at Peterborough United watching this lad.

23 year old highly rated winger.

Posh have won 4 out of 4 and top of the league but they are expecting bids in for their star player before deadline day.

Maybe we may have been one of the watchers???

 

[sheffielder]

Nope, never heard of him

 

[gavtheblade]

I think this will soon be merged.

 

[Ricky]

I like the idea of him and Brooks playing behind a striker.

We could do with someone with Maddison's pace and directness and ability to produce bits of magic.

Anything under £2m would be worth the gamble IMO but I don't think we'll go for him, although we will have watched him.

 

[Lmaobob]

I'm pretty sure he has poor attitude. Something Wilder won't want

 

[Danetheblade]

Posted a suggestion post a while back about Marcus maddison. Would be a good addition. Attitude is somewhat questionable. But, with a man manager like wilder. Who knows what he could mould him into. Raw talent, easily premier league quality maybe one match out of 10. If he worked on his consistency. He'd be a real asset I'm sure.

 

[Stretch]

Once had a reputation as a bit of a lad and a lazy fucker but got his head down at Gateshead before his move to Posh. A very good player who could easily step up but he won't come cheap.

 

[Ricky]

Posted a suggestion post a while back about Marcus maddison. Would be a good addition. Attitude is somewhat questionable. But, with a man manager like wilder. Who knows what he could mould him into. Raw talent, easily premier league quality maybe one match out of 10. If he worked on his consistency. He'd be a real asset I'm sure.

If a player came out of L1 and into our squad with a shitty attitude then it wouldn't stay that way for long. We've got a professional, competitive group with good habits now thanks to Wilder, they wouldn't put up with it. And that's before you consider Wilder's man management. If Maddison's mentality and consistency improved he'd be worth a fortune. And at his age, he's far from a lost cause in that department.

 

[BigBed]

I'm pretty sure he has poor attitude. Something Wilder won't want

To be fair, he's probably never had a gaffer like Wilder, one of the boys, aslong as you do it right on the pitch, don't mind if u get pissed n have a ruby with the lads.
I think most players attitudes would change at the lane this year.