JohnDenver
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The sad element of all this is that I think we'd really benefit from either of them in our current team.
Man Utd and Man City interested in Diego
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The sad element of all this is that I think we'd really benefit from either of them in our current team.
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So... that was a wasted trip for them all, wasn't it?
WhiteHawk
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He isn't even in the squad 
Torrix1889
A reight Bobby Dazzler
Flu......?
Paperound
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don't forget the promise of great loan signings, we fall for that time and time again
sheffielder
Welcome Positive Nigel
This is only a rumour but is in the right section, however someone told me that we had accepted a £4m bid from Man City and we will never see Diego play in a Sheffield United shirt again.
AGAIN???
sheffielder
Welcome Positive Nigel
You might not have been there when he made his cameo Judge
Must have been good
sheffielder
Welcome Positive Nigel
Could have been better and we could have been looking at more.
Kenilworth
Fuck The Falccid Franchise.
It's a scandal really.
The greed - for that's what it is, is killing the game, depriving young players careers and depriving real fans of proper clubs the benefit if seeing home grown talent come through and give then something to be proud of.
All the rich prem clubs go around hoovering up the best young talent from the FL72 clubs on the basis that it's worth the gamble i.e. If they get a few cheap enough now and a couple of those make it then they will have saved themselves the £10million premium that Arsenal paid for Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain.
One stat I heard over the weekend was that a Prem club has LOANED OUT 23 PLAYERS (think it was Chelsea). That is just obscene.
Solution
To counter this the FAPL and the FL should place a limit on the number if players any single club can loan out at one time (just like they do for a club loaning players in). Say 5 or 8 max. If they do this then young players may be dissuaded from taking the coin too early and wasting valuable years of their brief career phaffing about in a non descript development squad. Instead they can be playing football at first team level and developing properly. Then if they make the grade they can go for big money and take their wedge.
Let's face it, how many youth players have Man City (who were known for one of the best youth progs) produced for their first team recently? They just buy the next foreign star and loan out the youngsters they have poached from others youth policies. Just like Chelsea did to them with Daniel Sturridge.
Limit the loans out. That'll sort it.
The greed - for that's what it is, is killing the game, depriving young players careers and depriving real fans of proper clubs the benefit if seeing home grown talent come through and give then something to be proud of.
All the rich prem clubs go around hoovering up the best young talent from the FL72 clubs on the basis that it's worth the gamble i.e. If they get a few cheap enough now and a couple of those make it then they will have saved themselves the £10million premium that Arsenal paid for Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain.
One stat I heard over the weekend was that a Prem club has LOANED OUT 23 PLAYERS (think it was Chelsea). That is just obscene.
Solution
To counter this the FAPL and the FL should place a limit on the number if players any single club can loan out at one time (just like they do for a club loaning players in). Say 5 or 8 max. If they do this then young players may be dissuaded from taking the coin too early and wasting valuable years of their brief career phaffing about in a non descript development squad. Instead they can be playing football at first team level and developing properly. Then if they make the grade they can go for big money and take their wedge.
Let's face it, how many youth players have Man City (who were known for one of the best youth progs) produced for their first team recently? They just buy the next foreign star and loan out the youngsters they have poached from others youth policies. Just like Chelsea did to them with Daniel Sturridge.
Limit the loans out. That'll sort it.
shorehamview
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What the Premier League, the Football league and the Football Association should do would fill a multi-volume book. What they will do however is continue to pander to the rich clubs and continue to not give a fuck about the lower clubs. How many clubs go tits up for the sake of a month's wage for one PL player? They don't give a shit about lower clubs, and they give even less of a fuck about the amateurs at the bottom end of the scale.
It's all greed - they will buy good players and loan them out because they can. Chelsea have a loan goalkeeper, Thibaut Courtois, who is on his third season on loan at Atletico Madrid. He's made 91 appearances for Atletico, and none for Chelsea. This can't be right. yet the greedy clubs buy up all the talent, on the theory that weakening their opponents strengthens them. Andros Townsend has had nine different spells on loan at nine different clubs - how is that right?
The top end of the game, FIFA, UEFA, the various football associations and the "big" clubs are not bothered what happens below their lofty ranges - they don't give a fuck about how their policies affect the clubs beneath them, and they will be very resistant to any change that may leave them even slightly worse off. The Premier League gives less than 1% of it's income to the Football Foundation, less than £12 million a year towards grassroots football. They argue about the England team having crap players yet are willing to let the very soul of the game die because they are chasing the money.
Think about the greed when you think about Tom Huddlestone, who so far has raised over £50,000 for charity, and then ask why he's only managed to raise what Wayne Rooney earns in less than two days. How many footballers have coughed up for his charity? I suspect not many, otherwise it wouldn't be that small amount. Huddlestone is doing an admirable thing yet hasn't had much backing from the game that has made him a millionaire.
It's all about the money for the big clubs and the ruling powers. FIFA have recently announced that they have given $1billion to football since 1999, yet in 2006 their cash reserves passed the $1billion mark and are now around $1.3billion.
DeepcarBlade
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In paper today:
Kids face a pay cut
Young premiership stars could face a wage cap - unless they are playing regularly.
The proposal comes from an FA commission tasked with improving England teams, led by FA Chairman Greg Dyke.
Players under 21 could be limited to lower pay unless they have played 50 times for their clubs.
The panel believes young stars are lured to top clubs for money - but then rot in the reserves.
A source said "This would stop big clubs stockpiling young talent while not actually playing them. Clubs like Manchester City and Chelsea have lots of young players in the reserves earning extraordinary amounts of money".
mattbianco1
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Who's he going to replace? Baxter?
SouthEssexBlade
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When he leaves (and it is when not if) I'll be amazed if it is to anywhere other than Italy. If the rumours are right (and I know some are) and the likes of Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal et al are watching with a view to making offers, then I'm sure the top Italian clubs are also doing the same. He'll go to either Juventus, AC Milan, Inter Milan or maybe an emotional sway to Napoli (where his Dad played). Hopefully that will be in a few years, but with the way of things now it might be next month 
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Talksport's 7 Championship (Sic) Transfer Targets. Guess who is number two:-
http://talksport.com/football/trans...-united-liverpool-and-arsenal-14012176473?p=1
http://talksport.com/football/trans...-united-liverpool-and-arsenal-14012176473?p=1
Diego is better than mellis and slew p
his dad never played in Napoli and he won't be going anywhere this seasonWhen he leaves (and it is when not if) I'll be amazed if it is to anywhere other than Italy. If the rumours are right (and I know some are) and the likes of Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal et al are watching with a view to making offers, then I'm sure the top Italian clubs are also doing the same. He'll go to either Juventus, AC Milan, Inter Milan or maybe an emotional sway to Napoli (where his Dad played). Hopefully that will be in a few years, but with the way of things now it might be next month
GRUMPY BLADE
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One of them has a 16 year old on 17K/week
Alfreton I think?
Trigger Blade
Cheerful twaddle
That's looking up the wrong end of the telescope, there would be a simpler solution, Limit the number of young players that any club can have on its books in any age group at any time. Apparently Man City have a playing staff of 82, rather more than any club could ever expect to use.
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My favoured solution - get rid of the loan system (save for emergency keeper loans). Nobody can borrow or ber borrowed. That would force players to think a lot more carefully about joining particular teams. It will also stop other problems that the loan system creates.
Kenilworth
Fuck The Falccid Franchise.
As I have stated before, you can only loan in 5 players at a time so it should be the same limit applied to loaning out. If this was the case there would be many more players thinking about a permanent move away from those clubs that stockpile or they would think twice about joining one. It is that simple.
Not allowing loans is not a practical idea for all sorts of reasons - we might have a player that is coming through our academy from our scouting and we would like them to get experience at another club (one or two divisions below) before they are ready to perform for the first team - if you limited this to 5 out at any one time you could manage the system effectively.
It really is that simple - the stumbling block is that the richest clubs want to have unrestricted access to the pool of talent, hoovering up the brightest youngsters from any of the FL72 clubs, because they can afford to keep a dozen or so on the bench/in development squads in case one of them makes it big. It's purely fueled by greed and the EPL and FL should put rules in place that limit this exploitation - that is what they are there for as the governing bodies FFS.
Not allowing loans is not a practical idea for all sorts of reasons - we might have a player that is coming through our academy from our scouting and we would like them to get experience at another club (one or two divisions below) before they are ready to perform for the first team - if you limited this to 5 out at any one time you could manage the system effectively.
It really is that simple - the stumbling block is that the richest clubs want to have unrestricted access to the pool of talent, hoovering up the brightest youngsters from any of the FL72 clubs, because they can afford to keep a dozen or so on the bench/in development squads in case one of them makes it big. It's purely fueled by greed and the EPL and FL should put rules in place that limit this exploitation - that is what they are there for as the governing bodies FFS.
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