Loyalty Points!

[Berks_Blade]

How many have stood in a queue for cup tickets and the bloke in front buys half a dozen for his mates to save messing about all the loyalty points are added to his card so he sees the same game as me but gets six times the loyalty points because he collects tickets for his mates , I guess there is always some who know how to work the system in their favour.
Now then I've been in the super draw since it was Blades revival or whatever I wonder how many points that will be worth ? well it's a way of getting points without ever attending a match.

Other people have come out with that story about someone getting lots of sets of points for the same game, but it just isn't true. The SUFC website doesn't allow you to copy text (grrrr) but what they say is you can only get 1 set of points for 1 fixture. You could buy 30 tickets for a game, but the automatic software that generates the points only gives you 1 set.

All the info is on the website - http://www.sufc.co.uk/page/AwayMatches/0,,10418~1075823,00.html

 

[Linz]

I think I'll play devils advocate here, it doesn't bother me really as being a ST holder I will get a ticket but the loyalty system is far from perfect.

No one is saying it is, but for three years, there hasn't been an issue with it. These three years included trips to all of the Premiership grounds plus numerous sell-outs in this division, including Wednesday.

For three years, people have been quietly using this system. They didn't have to kick up a fuss because it works.

The system is tailored to who spends most ££££s

Show me a loyalty scheme implemented by any business that isn't.

It isn't about bigger blades, it's about who actively supports the club by going to most matches... a knock-on effect of that being they spend the most money.

I know a bloke who can be found at virtually every game home and away, pre season friendlies the lot, he makes his own way to games but the time will come when he has less points than fans who use the chicken soup coaches.

The club are encouraging the use of their coaches because of the club insurance covering travelling fans.

There is nothing to stop him travelling on the coach if he wanted to. He makes his choices knowing the full facts. I, personally, don't travel on the coaches but I can see the reason why the club are offering some incentive to.

How many have stood in a queue for cup tickets and the bloke in front buys half a dozen for his mates to save messing about all the loyalty points are added to his card so he sees the same game as me but gets six times the loyalty points because he collects tickets for his mates , I guess there is always some who know how to work the system in their favour.

I've bought numerous tickets on my account loads of times, one set of points for each.

Now then I've been in the super draw since it was Blades revival or whatever I wonder how many points that will be worth ? well it's a way of getting points without ever attending a match.

I think it was 200... same as the membership card but not too sure. Still money in the coffers for the club, the whole point of charging for any kind of ticket in the first place.

I think the real problem with this system is that most people just don't know how it works, because they didn't need to. As someone who travels all over the place, we had to be aware of the intricacies of the loyalty system right from the start because it affected when we could get tickets.

The One (Ross) had fewer loyalty points than us a couple of seasons ago, because his Uncle had bought his tickets and not bothered to give anyone else's name when buying them. That isn't the club's fault. All we had to do was wait until he was eligible for a ticket and get them then... he's now pretty much caught up with what the top bracket entails and we have no more issues. We are fans, with different loyalty points, who are able to sit together because we understand how it works.

Now, as far as I'm aware, I've not received any information that anyone else didn't, so why are there so many people who just fail to grasp this concept? Maybe more ought to have been done to bring the oldies up to speed with this newfangled scheme? Dunno.

People were in the ticket office earlier being turned away because they only had 5000 points.

It's like going into Tescos and demanding a £1.50 voucher when you've only got 10ps worth of points

 

[beightonblade]

What pisses me off is the 'in crowd' social climbing two hats in the posh seats who never que and get as many tickets as they want for sell outs !

sum of em are embarrasing !

Its not reight serry.

 

[Sensiblade]

so back to the hypothetical scenario you think that somebody who hasn't been for 18 months but has accrued enough points in THE PAST is more loyal than somebody who is just starting out but been to every possible match of THE CURRENT season

If they haven't been going because of working away/illness/money problems etc then they cannot be classed as less loyal if they already have the points they have earned them.
on the case of someone who has only been going a year or so they are guarenteed a ticket so have no problem.
If they did say a time/points system then it wouldnt be fair on the people who have all the possible points over 3 years compared to one years worth for another.
The system they have now works and is fair for everyone who uses it

 

[shorehamview]

A man goes into his local Tesco every day. He buys a Daily Star. Fuck knows why, it's not fit to wipe your bum with, but he shops there every day, but only spends 20p.

Another man shops in his local Tesco once a fortnight. He spends nearly £100 in store, plus he buys a big breakfast and then he fills up his big 4x4 with diesel, costing another £100.

So, the first man is a loyal customer, but doesn't spend a deal. The second bloke spends over £5000 a year in Tesco, but only goes once a fortnight.

Who do YOU think is going to get most Clubcard (LOYALTY) Points? The man who, for reasons known only to himself, buys the Daily Star, or the man who buys a load of shopping and a lake of diesel?

That's how it works at United. It rewards spending.

Personally I think that the Loyalty Points is a fairer system than the old one of collecting ticket stubs. How pissed off would you be if the only game you had missed all season was Palace away, and that was the stub you needed to guarantee a Wembley ticket?

A system is always unfair to those that it disadvantages. The traffic laws in this country are unfair for those of us who like to do 135 mph on the way to work, but hey, they are the laws.

 

[shorehamview]

I worked for SUFC on matchdays from 1999 to the end of last season when I packed the job in and bought a season ticket, the loyalty points being part of the reason why I did so. Part of my wages were a match ticket and from 1999 to present I can count on one hand how many home games I have missed how many loyalty points did I get for this ? answer = zip, zilch, zero !!!!

I know you might be a little pissed off that you didn't get any loyalty points for the times you WORKED FOR SHEFFIELD UNITED when you GOT A FREE TICKET to matches from 1999 to 2008, but hang on a minute. You worked for Sheffield United, got PAID by them, including a FREE ticket, and you still moan that you didn't get any loyalty points from them?
That, to use my earlier analogy, is like a shoplifter moaning that they don't get Clubcard points as they leg it out of Tesco with a frozen chicken down their pants.

How long before we get Kevin McCabe on here moaning?
"I bought a football club, and they haven't given me any loyalty points!"

does it make me any less loyal YES it certainly does

It makes you an EMPLOYEE.

(em⋅ploy⋅ee
  /ɛmˈplɔɪi, ɛmplɔɪˈi, ˌɛmplɔɪˈi/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [em-ploi-ee, em-ploi-ee, em-ploi-ee]
–noun
a person working for another person or a business firm for pay.

Did you get paid for working for United? Did you get a free ticket?
The loyalty points system rewards those who SPEND money at United, not those who WORK FOR United.
You didn't get any loyalty points because you were at work, the same way many other who work on match days don't.
My brother is a plod, and on the odd occasion he's been in his Darth Vader outfit at the Lane I bet he didn't get any loyalty points either.

 

[geezza1978]

If they haven't been going because of working away/illness/money problems etc then they cannot be classed as less loyal if they already have the points they have earned them.

my example was of somebody who chooses not to go. NOT through not being able to attend through working away/illness/money problems

It isn't about bigger blades, it's about who actively supports the club by going to most matches.

again my example was of somebody who chose not to go for 18months NOT through working away/illness/money problems against somebody "who actively supports the club by going to most matches" but has only been attending for a year

A man goes into his local Tesco every day. He buys a Daily Star. Fuck knows why, it's not fit to wipe your bum with, but he shops there every day, but only spends 20p.

Another man shops in his local Tesco once a fortnight. He spends nearly £100 in store, plus he buys a big breakfast and then he fills up his big 4x4 with diesel, costing another £100..

lets put Tesco men in to my scenario M.Ardyarse is the one who spends £200 Joe Bloggs is 20p man. 18months ago M.Ardyarse who spends £200 a fortnight hears the voice of God who suggests he stop shopping at Tesco because Morrisons is £10 cheaper on shopping and 2p per litre cheaper on his fuel. so stops going to Tesco through HIS OWN CHOICE. meanwhile Joe carries on spending his 20p per week.

However because up until his epiphany M.Ardyarse spent £5200 per year this makes him more "loyal" in the eyes of Tescos than Joe who spends £10.40 per year on his paper.

the fact that M.Ardyarse may never shop at Tesco again and Joe may carry on spending his 20p per week for the rest of his life in the eyes of Tesco is irrelevant.

These are both previous spending Loyalty schemes with both Tescos and SUFC not schemes for people "who actively supports the club by going to most matches". or Shop in the case of Tesco

i agree with whoever it was who said a rolling scheme would be better. possibly a 2/3 year rolling scheme where where people who don't attend their points would start to decrease every year they don't attend. i know this would penalise people who cant attend through working away/illness/money problems however this is a loyalty scheme and as Linz say's

it's about who actively supports the club by going to most matches.

not for people who don't attend.

I reiterate these points are not for my own personal gain. I go to very few away games so i would be down the pecking order anyway but that is fine by me. I think there must be fairer ways to sort the scheme than what is currently in use.




Anyway one of my mates who is a pig booooo is some kind of manager at the Tesco's in Chesterfield centre. I'm going to have words with him later cause i think his treatment of Joe is disgusting especially when their strap line is "Every Little Helps" the lying barstewards.

 

[Linz]

again my example was of somebody who chose not to go for 18months NOT through working away/illness/money problems against somebody "who actively supports the club by going to most matches" but has only been attending for a year

/snip

i agree with whoever it was who said a rolling scheme would be better. possibly a 2/3 year rolling scheme where where people who don't attend their points would start to decrease every year they don't attend. i know this would penalise people who cant attend through working away/illness/money problems however this is a loyalty scheme and as Linz say's not for people who don't attend.

I do think this is the only answer to it... but still the scheme came into place for the 2006/07 season and we're at 2008/09. Even if it was a three year scheme, we'd still only be having the points knocked off during this summer ready for next season.

I do stand by my assertion that it works however and before we got to Wembley, the general consensus was supportive. It's far better than opening everything up to season ticket holders ensuring you've got people queuing up in the car park all night or just postal applications which can be a bit of a lottery.

Some of the people complain that the system ought to be done away with, and returned to the days of old, should perhaps cast their minds back to when it did work the way they are suggesting... and all of the complaining that went on then!

 

[Berks_Blade]

Seen a message on BU about a Burnley fan queueing 10 hours for tickets - all their ST-holders have qualified at the same time (as certain people on BU said our club should have done) and it's created the bad-old days of overnight queues we used to have.

Apparently they think Burnley should have a loyalty scheme like ours to avoid the problem.

 

[metalblade]

Been down for my ticket this morning, at 8.45 the queue started half way down Shoreham St after queueing 2 hours i decided to go home and try the phone or go back later. Like i said elsewhere, and i knew it would happen, it seems like a lot of the fans with loads of points have waited untill today to get sat with friends who have less points. Shread and his mates are in this mornings queue.

 

[geezza1978]

me too i am currently number 33 in the phone que

 

[geezza1978]

its not taking long to go down phone que now number 28

 

[metalblade]

Number 3...........

 

[geezza1978]

now number 14

 

[metalblade]

£50 ticket row 7 don't know which block though. A lot quicker by phone 52mins. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

 

[Linz]

Nice one

In the end, I don't think there's going to be anyone disappointed.

When all's said and done... we're going to Wembley!

 

[geezza1978]

you beat me by 1m34seconds total call length 53m.34s 4 tickets block 109 row 11 seat 189-192:thumbup::thumbup:

my 2 seats at BDTBL Kop Row S seats 190-191 its a bloody sign i tell ya:nod::nod:

were going to Wembley Que Sera Sera:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: