Line Up v Brentford

[SwissBlade]

I'd go with the same starting line up as mancunianblade and Patrick Suffaux have gone with.

However, question is what has Lafferty done wrong as i don't think anyone has put him in their starting line up

Squad looks very healthy. Just probably need another Centre half, a centre mid and a striker, but as mentioned previously i think at least 1-2 of these will come as season loans (though that might be less likely now that we have Blackman on loan)

 

[Lower Drop Blade]

I'd go:
Moore / Eastwood
Bash Wright JOC
Freeman Fleck Couts Stevens
Duffy
Sharp Clarke

Brooks on for Duffy


Think it will be:

As above but Blackman in goal , Stearman in for Wright and Carruthers in first Duffy

I hope we try for someone else up top who could make the difference as the five or so we have might not be quite good enough for this league.

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

Are you okay? Banged your head recently? Brayford? Eastwood?

I'd trust Eastwood over Blackman to start with at least and brayford is the a better player than basham

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

Would like to know what Brayford could possibly do better than Basham at RCB....

Defend?

 

[FTPE]

Let's be fair, about 10 of you have said the same side, which is great but it means are backup itsnt as strong as we'd like.
We know Lavery hasn't done enough to dislodge Clarke,
A lot of people don't think Duffy can make the step up,
Laffetty has already lost his spot,
Freemans number two has only played Stockbridge,
We don't know where to play Brooks,
And our other strikers aren't fit.

The aim was to have 2 good players vying for one spot, which we almost have but other than Enda have we bought any players that's going to be first choice?

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

Let's be fair, about 10 of you have said the same side, which is great but it means are backup itsnt as strong as we'd like....

.... The aim was to have 2 good players vying for one spot, which we almost have but other than Enda have we bought any players that's going to be first choice?

Stearman, Blackman, Ched (when fit) and I'd sort of class Carruthers as a new signing. At the end of the day Wilder can only pick one of them for each position. The players that start Saturday aren't necessarily going to be first choice throughout the season.

 

[bladesmanluke]

Defend?

Whenever Brayford played centre half for us he was utterly useless

 

[mancunianblade]

I'd go with the same starting line up as mancunianblade and Patrick Suffaux have gone with.

However, question is what has Lafferty done wrong as i don't think anyone has put him in their starting line up

Squad looks very healthy. Just probably need another Centre half, a centre mid and a striker, but as mentioned previously i think at least 1-2 of these will come as season loans (though that might be less likely now that we have Blackman on loan)

From what I gather in pre season is he's done well. Just get the impression Wilder has preferred Stevens.he seems to have started ahead of Lafferty. I maybe wrong but without looking it up,it seems that way

 

[sheffielder]

Love how people slip in their agendas to these discussions. I am sure someone just said maybe Sharp might start but no longer considered a starter.

The brayford topic is starting to blow my mind

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

I wouldn't have Brayford as one of the centre halves, but I'd still say he's the best full back at the club and probably ideal in a wing back role. However I can't see him getting in the team as he seems well down the pecking order.

 

[Gavlar]

Would like to know what Brayford could possibly do better than Basham at RCB....

Have a beard?

 

[blade67]

Blackman
Freeman - Basham - Stearman - JOC - Lafferty
Coutts - Fleck
Carruthers
Sharp - Lavery

Subs Eastwood, Stevens, Wright, Clarke, Duffy, Brooks, Lundstam

Clark might start instead of Lavery and Stevens may start instead of Lafferty but it will be last year's team with the new players getting a go from the bench

This means the following players will be out of the squad to start

Evans, Hanson, Baldock , Thomas, Done Brayford, Moore, mostly hampered by minor injuries.

 

[adebo]

If we put Brayford in after one 45 minutes all pre season and him basically playing in a side he's not played with then it would be nuts in my often wrong view

Agreed he is perfect cover for both freeman and basham tho so should make the bench!

 

[adebo]

Why are so many insisting Basham plays at CB? As good as his form is he's naturally a CDM isn't he and playing players out of position I'm not a fan of, I know he can be brilliant at CB but what we also should take into account is that we're playing at the next level now and therefore his performances may not quite reach the standard required in this position.

My back 3 would have natural CB Wright Snr in it unless we sign another CB before Saturday.

As for Brayford, if he is to be in the team surely he'd have to go at wing-back and not in the the back 3!

Why is bash a CDM this screams too much fifa Bash was fantastic in the back 3 & kept EEL out he has been superb all preseason and his play suits coutts and freeman in that position. It's all teamwork this season and united being greater than the sum of our parts

 

[SwissBlade]

Let's be fair, about 10 of you have said the same side, which is great but it means are backup itsnt as strong as we'd like.
We know Lavery hasn't done enough to dislodge Clarke,
A lot of people don't think Duffy can make the step up,
Laffetty has already lost his spot,
Freemans number two has only played Stockbridge,
We don't know where to play Brooks,
And our other strikers aren't fit.

The aim was to have 2 good players vying for one spot, which we almost have but other than Enda have we bought any players that's going to be first choice?

I don't think it necessarily suggests that the back up isn't as strong, but it is more likely down to opinions.

For me, as an example, it would take a lot to change the side that finished the game away at MK Dons, despite not playing that well that day, they achieved a decent result and more importantly the side had linked up well together.

So the natural changes would therefore be Blackman/ Eastwood for the injured Moore and Stearman being the straight swap for EEL. Duffy is probably the only other immediate change as he has had reduced exposure this preseason due to his wife giving birth.

I found myself agreeing that Stevens should replace Lafferty, but i haven't seen Stevens play at all and Lafferty never gave me cause for concern last season(although I know many that did see him often had criticism), Stevens has played probably a similar amount to Lafferty during pre season so its probably not much between them.

Am i right in thinking that JOC, Basham and possibly Brooks are the three stand out players from preseason?

 

[FTPE]

I don't think it necessarily suggests that the back up isn't as strong, but it is more likely down to opinions.

For me, as an example, it would take a lot to change the side that finished the game away at MK Dons, despite not playing that well that day, they achieved a decent result and more importantly the side had linked up well together.

So the natural changes would therefore be Blackman/ Eastwood for the injured Moore and Stearman being the straight swap for EEL. Duffy is probably the only other immediate change as he has had reduced exposure this preseason due to his wife giving birth.

I found myself agreeing that Stevens should replace Lafferty, but i haven't seen Stevens play at all and Lafferty never gave me cause for concern last season(although I know many that did see him often had criticism), Stevens has played probably a similar amount to Lafferty during pre season so its probably not much between them.

Am i right in thinking that JOC, Basham and possibly Brooks are the three stand out players from preseason?

I thought Carruthers was brilliant at Rotherham to be honest and I'm a Duffy fan.
Stevens is a fantastic signing, lafferty will really have to work hard to get his place back, I see Enda becoming a real fan favourite.

 

[Rodley]

Why is bash a CDM this screams too much fifa Bash was fantastic in the back 3 & kept EEL out he has been superb all preseason and his play suits coutts and freeman in that position. It's all teamwork this season and united being greater than the sum of our parts

He's poor in the midfield and cracking at centre half. Stick with last season's approach.

 

[Karaoke Blade]

assuming injuries as they are

Eastwood

Brayford steerman O'Connell

Freeman Stevens

Coutts fleck

Carruthers

Sharp Clarke

Bench. Blackman basham brooks lavery wright lundstrum Thomas

If Brayford starts , I will bare my arse on the town hall steps.

 

[sufcboy95]

I'd go with the same starting line up as mancunianblade and Patrick Suffaux have gone with.

However, question is what has Lafferty done wrong as i don't think anyone has put him in their starting line up

Squad looks very healthy. Just probably need another Centre half, a centre mid and a striker, but as mentioned previously i think at least 1-2 of these will come as season loans (though that might be less likely now that we have Blackman on loan)

It's not that lafferty has done anything wrong, it's more that Stevens has been immense in pre season

 

[sufcboy95]

As of yet brayford hasn't done enough to get near the starting 11 or even the bench. But if he stays and gets his head down, I wouldn't be surprised to see him starting by October

 

[SwissBlade]

It's not that lafferty has done anything wrong, it's more that Stevens has been immense in pre season

Yeah no issue with that and as i said, from what i've read he's done ok. But is he then one of the stand out performers this Preseason

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

I wouldn't have Brayford as one of the centre halves, but I'd still say he's the best full back at the club and probably ideal in a wing back role. However I can't see him getting in the team as he seems well down the pecking order.

As well as he did when he first arrived, I still just see him as a poor investment and there has to be something wrong for Wilder not to fancy him.

If he's as good as people say, then it has to be down to something else.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

*Double post

 

[Danny_Blade]

Why is bash a CDM this screams too much fifa Bash was fantastic in the back 3 & kept EEL out he has been superb all preseason and his play suits coutts and freeman in that position. It's all teamwork this season and united being greater than the sum of our parts

His natural position is being a defensive midfielder. But we'll obviously see how he performs at CB at Championship level very soon and if he does OK then great it won't be a problem for us.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

His natural position is being a defensive midfielder. But we'll obviously see how he performs at CB at Championship level very soon and if he does OK then great it won't be a problem for us.

His preferred position is midfield, but I don't think it's his best or natural position. Jagielka always used to describe midfield as his preferred position, despite it being clear to all over several years that centre-half was where his talents were most effective. It's the same issue with Basham. O'Connell got a lot of the attention 2nd half of the season for his performances, but for me Basham was consistently excellent from the turn of the year onwards at centre-half. He is never going to be a Championship quality midfielder, but he has the potential to be a Championship quality centre-half.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Just perusing through the various team selections on here. Has to be said we're far stronger than we were a year ago. I still think a CH is needed, or at least until Stearman convinces me he's worth persisting with. I think that once again Wilder has bought well. Can't comment on Lundstrum as it's far too early to offer a decent critique. As for Brayford, as has been commented, only one game preseason, so not worthy of consideration for the first team, but he's clearly a good choice at this level.

Carruthers will start, and I hope Brooks gets a chance as he's done well so far. Generally I think we're in decent nick, now let's see if my confidence is rewarded........as usual UTMB!!!

 

[Danny_Blade]

Played all season for Burton in the back 3.

I do take your point but that's playing for Burton Albion whose only goal is to desperately stay up. But for us surely we wouldn't need to put him in the back 3 and would be far more beneficial as a wing-back, which is a lot closer to his natural full back position.

 

[Iceybabey]

MY team for Satdeh, as follows......

EastWood
Bash Stearman JOC
Freeman Coutts Fleck Stevens
Carruthers
Sharp Brooks

3-4-3 formation

Bench..... Clarke, Duffy, Laffs, Lavery, Lundstram, Thomas, Blackman

 

[10-0 win]

Blackman -----Basham-Stearman.O'Connel----Freeman.Coutts-Fleck-Stevens---Carruthers---Sharp-Clarke

subs Eastwood-Wright-Lafferty-Brooks-Lavory-

Last years team will be used, with pacey opponents our backthree will struggle unless we keep the high pressure. If not , a player like Basham could easily give away a penalty when up against Jota.

 

[DazBlade88]

His preferred position is midfield, but I don't think it's his best or natural position. Jagielka always used to describe midfield as his preferred position, despite it being clear to all over several years that centre-half was where his talents were most effective. It's the same issue with Basham. O'Connell got a lot of the attention 2nd half of the season for his performances, but for me Basham was consistently excellent from the turn of the year onwards at centre-half. He is never going to be a Championship quality midfielder, but he has the potential to be a Championship quality centre-half.

This.

Basham isn't good enough on the ball to be in a Championship midfield in our system. But he's good enough on the ball to be good at bringing it into midfield from the back four. The right hand side of a back three is ideal for him. It's there or nowhere in the team for me.

I think the team will be:

Blackman
Freeman
Basham
Stearman
O'Connell
Stevens
Coutts
Fleck
Carruthers
Sharp
Lavery