Left back

[Trafford]

Still not impressed with Hill at left back and, if the rumours of Williams' injury are true, we're short of cover anyway. Anyone know why Taylor hasn't been playing - I thought he did well in his comeback game but hasn't featured since.

 

[stannyblade]

Hill was awful first half IMO

 

[Latters]

Hill looks rubbish at defending and rubbish going forward. We actually miss Lecsinel at left back. He's far from perfect but my God he's entertaining!

 

[dannycorker]

I have no idea why LJF got the stick he did, him and Lowton as full backs was fantastic. No idea where Taylor has gone, little to no confidence in Hill from me though. The difference between the Lowton/Willo link up and the Hill/Quinn one is laughable.

 

[mickerz-blade]

I agree with all of your comments as well. Hill looks awful and I would honestly have Taylor over him any day. I think Taylor is one of the greatest ball players in our squad - his measure and accuracy of his passes is quality... I just don't get why Danny isn't really giving him much of a chance at all as he is available and he played for the reserves on Wednesday.

 

[dannycorker]

I agree with all of your comments as well. Hill looks awful and I would honestly have Taylor over him any day. I think Taylor is one of the greatest ball players in our squad - his measure and accuracy of his passes is quality... I just don't get why Danny isn't really giving him much of a chance at all as he is available and he played for the reserves on Wednesday.

Makes you wonder if Hill's loan deal had any conditions to it? We'd have taken anything we could get for any cost when we signed him I think!

 

[beechblade]

Can't believe he's getting a start a head of Taylor. Hill didn't look too bad to start with but his decision making and defending has deteriorated recently.

 

[Billyblade]

I don't think I have ever seen a player give the ball away as much as Hill in all my time watching the Blades. I'm not a big fan of Taylor but surely he's got to be the better option?

 

[sheffielder]

Did anyone else notice Collins ripping Hill a new arse when all the other players were celebrating the equaliser. Strangely in all the games I have seen he does get a little better in the 2nd

 

[LSF]

Did anyone else notice Collins ripping Hill a new arse when all the other players were celebrating the equaliser. Strangely in all the games I have seen he does get a little better in the 2nd

Yes, I saw Collins giving Hill 'what for' and it continued for the next few breaks in play too. I'm all for good communication though
However, as Hill is the latest in a long line of 'whipping boys' (and yes, he hasn't looked too convincing lately), four points clear of the Pigs with three to play and still folk look for the negative element
Its good enough for me that Danny thinks he's the one best suited to the left back spot, rather than all the knowledgeable managers in the stands who think otherwise (of course they all have their right on come on here and state their preferences though!)

 

[bartman]

LJF is one of the worse left backs in recent years. Positionally poor,can't pass and reckless in the tackle. The one quality he does have is his ability in the air. The main ability Hill has(although I don't think he is as bad as some on here make out) is his strength in the air.

Personally I would prefer Williams.

Maguire was the worse defender on the pitch for us yesterday by a country mile

 

[Pragmatic Blade]

I believe the left full back position is one which we will have to address immediately upon going up, along with a few other areas of the squad. We have had more players in that position that anywhere this season. It may also serve to highlight the stick that Quinn gets on here in that he hasn't consistently played with the same left full back. Not defending players here......just a thought? Williams, LJF, Taylor and Hill have all been tried at Left-Back and none of them look any better than League One standard (IMHO).

The Lowton-Williamson combination would work in the league above as well. UTB.

 

[Kenilworth]

I believe Hill gets the nod (literally) due to his heading ability.
The goal wasn't Hill's fault yesterday
I am sure that DW has him in for his aerial ability relative to Williams and Taylor.
It's one area we need to address next season. Plenty of left backs but none of them Championship quality

 

[Latters]

LJF is one of the worse left backs in recent years. Positionally poor,can't pass and reckless in the tackle. The one quality he does have is his ability in the air. The main ability Hill has(although I don't think he is as bad as some on here make out) is his strength in the air.

Personally I would prefer Williams.

Maguire was the worse defender on the pitch for us yesterday by a country mile

Can't agree with that at all. Taylor and Hill are both far worse that Jean Francoise. He's bigger, stronger, quicker, better at tackling and better aerially than both of them. He also offers more going forward than any of our other left backs, a few wayward crosses notwithstanding. He's better than Williams too, just not by as big a margin as he is compared with the other two.

All our left backs are error prone. Luckily Lecsinel's are usually comedy errors that aren't too costly, which adds to his entertainment value!

So, contrary to being one of the "worst left backs in years", he's the best of the four we have in the squad at the moment. Unless you meant he's the fourth worst left back in years, behind the other shower we have that can play there, in which case I might agree.

 

[Pompey_Blade]

I believe Hill gets the nod (literally) due to his heading ability.
The goal wasn't Hill's fault yesterday
I am sure that DW has him in for his aerial ability relative to Williams and Taylor.
It's one area we need to address next season. Plenty of left backs but none of them Championship quality

I felt hill's heading was poor yesterday. Yes he did win alot of balls in the air, however alot of the balls went straight back to a leyton orient player.

 

[Trigger Blade]

I felt hill's heading was poor yesterday. Yes he did win alot of balls in the air, however alot of the balls went straight back to a leyton orient player.

One of the things we've done really well this season, is remain calm under pressure and try and keep the ball and pass it out of defence. Hill isn't a scapegoat for me, but when the ball comes to him in the air, he panics and just heads the ball straight back upfield and usually, that means giving away possession. Of course we'll give the ball away sometimes, all our midfield do that, but they're trying to find a team mate, he's just getting rid.

 

[JohnDenver]

The last word on this matter:

Jordan Stewart.

***thread ends***

 

[Bergen Blade]

Taylor got praise from quite a few on here after the Oldham game. I agree he's decent on the ball, but he remains uncomfortable with wingers running at him. I thought Oldham's winger looked likely to beat him every time he had the ball.

Hill is poor on the ball, but ok defensively in my opinion. Williams has lost confidence after a decent start for us, and he looks to panic on the ball sometimes. I share Latters' views on LJF, I like watching him, also for entertainment, but I also think he's got potential to improve and could play at a higher level, unlike the other options.

 

[Kentblade]

The

I believe the left full back position is one which we will have to address immediately upon going up, along with a few other areas of the squad. We have had more players in that position that anywhere this season. It may also serve to highlight the stick that Quinn gets on here in that he hasn't consistently played with the same left full back. Not defending players here......just a thought? Williams, LJF, Taylor and Hill have all been tried at Left-Back and none of them look any better than League One standard (IMHO).

The Lowton-Williamson combination would work in the league above as well. UTB.

The left back position is the weakest in the team and it has to have an effect on Stephen Quinn,as he has played with so many different players in that position.
Apart from the injured left back, who has limitations I have failed to see any left back that is up to the standard required.
If and at this stage if, I will not celebrate until it happens,we will need to address other positions upon promotion.
What a great season so far.
UTB

 

[Trafford]

I suspect that Hill could be quite a decent defender, he's just not a left back. Far too often we end up with Quinn having to chase back to cover the left back position, when Hill is either in the centre (where he's generally not required) or further down the pitch than Quinn. I have some sympathy with Quinn in this respect and it probably explains why he often looks knackered towards the end of a game.

 

[sitwell]

Switch that round and the one consistent part of this is Quinn ,he does not support his full back positionally and gives the ball away time and again forcing the full back into 2 minds whether to go forward. Quinn looks like he is chasing back because he doesn't read the game and is reactive rather than proactive. Lowton trusts Williamson ,but the same happens to him when Quinn goes to the right. He may be a good footballer with a talented left foot but there is so much missing from his game ,which is why he wont play at a higher level.

Someone should run a poll on the left back position Hill/LSJ/Taylor/Williams out of interest.

 

[sothall blade]

i am just so gratefull nyrons no longer here !

 

[stannyblade]

Switch that round and the one consistent part of this is Quinn ,he does not support his full back positionally and gives the ball away time and again forcing the full back into 2 minds whether to go forward. Quinn looks like he is chasing back because he doesn't read the game and is reactive rather than proactive. Lowton trusts Williamson ,but the same happens to him when Quinn goes to the right. He may be a good footballer with a talented left foot but there is so much missing from his game ,which is why he wont play at a higher level.

Someone should run a poll on the left back position Hill/LSJ/Taylor/Williams out of interest.

Hill would be shit with Gareth Bale in front of him. Its not Quinn (who by the way had a good game yesterday)
Did you see Collins bollock Hill yesterday? never seen him so vocal

 

[SBSP]

It all went downhill when LJF got injured. Nobody we had, or have brought in since, are close to him.
I know he made errors but was better both defensively and going forward than his replacements. His technique was questionable but he has strength and pace - something we ate still worryingly short on.
Taylor has never impressed me and I still can't tell if Hill is left or right footed (not in a good way).
Williams is clear favourite for me but looking to next season it is a position that requires massive improvement

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Still not impressed with Hill at left back and, if the rumours of Williams' injury are true, we're short of cover anyway. Anyone know why Taylor hasn't been playing - I thought he did well in his comeback game but hasn't featured since.

With Taylor at left back we played two, lost two and conceded six goals.
With Hill at left back, we've played nine, won seven, drawn two, lost none and conceded nine.
Not entirely sure why Hill has been playing instead of Taylor but I could take a wild guess

 

[sitwell]

That hardly tells the whole story though Sothall to be fair,we had no defenders for one of those games and the other one they all joined the circus for the day.
And Stanny if you think Quinn had a good game then his standards have dropped enormously.

 

[mpjacko]

Yes, I saw Collins giving Hill 'what for' and it continued for the next few breaks in play too. I'm all for good communication though
However, as Hill is the latest in a long line of 'whipping boys' (and yes, he hasn't looked too convincing lately), four points clear of the Pigs with three to play and still folk look for the negative element
Its good enough for me that Danny thinks he's the one best suited to the left back spot, rather than all the knowledgeable managers in the stands who think otherwise (of course they all have their right on come on here and state their preferences though!)

Because if you don't analyse what you have, you won't improve. Imagine there was someone in your place of work who tries his best but isn't good enough. Would you still be forgiving if he was earning the same amoun tof money as you but you are are working twice as much to cover his downfall. I think you would be the first to complain or asking for a pay rise.

 

[super_pig]

quinn is the common denominator in all of this.. his postional play is suspect

 

[stannyblade]

And Stanny if you think Quinn had a good game then his standards have dropped enormously.

Did alot of tracking back, wanted the ball alot . If it is his job to cover the left back then he should be made to stay on the left instead of moving all across the line. Not his best performance of the season granted but not his worse either. Hill is better at centre half than left back. I just hope we dont sign him

 

[super_pig]

> If it is his job to cover the left back then he should be made to stay on the left instead of moving all across the line
hence the word 'suspect' .. don't know what his exact orders are.. i just wish he'd stay on his bloody feet