CONFIRMED Lee Evans to Wigan on loan to perm

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Whet's he said wrong Dronnie? Seems to me Wilder has said that Evans wanted to leave so Wilder decided it was ok for him to leave, providing the deal was right for us obviously. Wilder's not said something like he was only average and could be dispensed has he?! Am I missing something?
If you can’t see it from what’s been printed as attributable to Wilder, then I can’t explain it. Sorry.

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Whet's he said wrong Dronnie? Seems to me Wilder has said that Evans wanted to leave so Wilder decided it was ok for him to leave, providing the deal was right for us obviously. Wilder's not said something like he was only average and could be dispensed has he?! Am I missing something?

Wilder did not say Evans wanted to leave, he read out a very carefully worded "expressed a desire to leave". You're very gullible and reacting in exactly the way the club hoped for. See my post #358 for an alternative interpretation of events.
 
Wilder did not say Evans wanted to leave, he read out a very carefully worded "expressed a desire to leave". You're very gullible and reacting in exactly the way the club hoped for. See my post #358 for an alternative interpretation of events.
Who cares though? We've got rid of an average player for presumably decent money.
 
If Wilder doesn't see Woodburn as good enough to start then Klopp will be recalling him anyway and sending him somewhere he'll be better utilised. Saturday will be interesting, especially now one of the midfield slots has been freed up.
I've got to say as ridiculous comments on ridiculous comments go that is ridiculous. Young kid only signed a couple of days before first game. If you know anything about the game the couple of days before a game is all about systems and set up for the next game not general teamwork. We go out of one game straight to the next. We have the same tomorrow but at least he has spent some time with the squad so may play or may not but we have same problem next week as well. Until they can get to work on him on how we play he will be in and out. He will be put in when he is ready.
 
Who cares though? We've got rid of an average player for presumably decent money.

Can't disagree with that but it's a separate issue.

What's also a separate issue is that Wilder fucked up royally in the JTW and Evans has provided a convenient smokescreen.
 
I'm not all that fussed he's gone, although I preferred him over Lundstram, the main issue was the two of them playing together with no real alternative creative outlet.

The bit that does worry me is Wilder's insistence that he was choosing the best team for the Swansea and Middlesbrough games. With that logic we've lost our best first team option for tough games. It just doesn't add up.
On the other hand, we were fucking wank in both games so it's not a big loss. Wilder must have seen this and thought we need a drastic change and fast.

More than one way of looking at it I suppose.
 
Lee Evans was very poor at Birmingham last season and contributed to one of the most apathetic team performances I've seen since Adkins was in charge. Given our system, the midfield roles are ultra critical and if individuals hide or are negative, that translates to the entire team and overall approach. When we were 1-0 up, we should have gone for the jugular and killed the game but Evans wasn't interested; sideways and backwards all game long. To the extent that in the second half, we created no chances and whilst it wasn't all his fault, the malaise spread from his role. I didn't want to see him play for us again after that and thankfully tomorrow I won't have to.
 
In the games Evans has played I can never remember coming home and remember him playing except possibly Middlesbrough last season, in other words he was invisible but being the fair minded people we are we think give him a chance he will come good, well he hasn't, move on its football and I wish him all the best and hope he has a good career,bet Leonard partners Lundstrum tomorrow and Duffy is on the bench.
 
I'm not all that fussed he's gone, although I preferred him over Lundstram, the main issue was the two of them playing together with no real alternative creative outlet.

The bit that does worry me is Wilder's insistence that he was choosing the best team for the Swansea and Middlesbrough games. With that logic we've lost our best first team option for tough games. It just doesn't add up.
On the other hand, we were fucking wank in both games so it's not a big loss. Wilder must have seen this and thought we need a drastic change and fast.

More than one way of looking at it I suppose.

Yeah but if we need a drastic change you just change the team around, not sell someone every time they have a bad couple of games. We'd end up playing the juniors after 6 months with that logic!
 

I’ll say GLTTL.

And that we are not as urgently in need of a direct replacement as many would suggest. Top heavy in midfield

If the extra funds / wages freed up ultimately go on strengthening the striker department, I’m OK with that.

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Wasn't it Stevens who cut back to Baldock? Watched on a shit telly in a pub, so you might be right.

Stevens played in Lundstram for the cut-back. As I said at the time, it was the type of pass from Lundstram that I wished both wingbacks would actually do accurately once in a while.
 
Weird that Wilder was adamant he'd played his best team in the first 2 matches then gets rid of someone who started both games.

In the meantime other midfielders who haven't had a look in are still here.

I'm worried there's something going on behind the scenes that means we need cashflow and getting shut of Evans has helped raise cash and get rid of his wages.
 
I’ll say GLTTL.

And that we are not as urgently in need of a direct replacement as many would suggest. Top heavy in midfield

If the extra funds / wages freed up ultimately go on strengthening the striker department, I’m OK with that.

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Agree, but I would like someone like Norwood to come in.

He'd be an upgrade on what we currently have and alleviate the pressure on Coutts.
 
Im sure as a fan we know wilder has our best interest at heart. But whats happened as this week has been bemusing at best. Something just doesn't add up. When we said midtable budget didnt get confused at which division they were on about.

I think thats now 4 centre midfielders 1 injury we are screwed.



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I have mixed feelings about this, I agree that playing him with Lundstram definitely didn't work, & that he wasn't exactly playing out of his skin, but technically he is very good, the way he sorted his feet out for that volley against 'Boro & how he saw the picture in his head is beyond average players, but it was a rare moment of quality really. I do wish him well, but the way Wilders comment (expressed a desire to move) was worded makes me think something was going on that we are not party to & I hope it turns out to be not as bad as it sounds.
 
Weird that Wilder was adamant he'd played his best team in the first 2 matches then gets rid of someone who started both games.

In the meantime other midfielders who haven't had a look in are still here.

I'm worried there's something going on behind the scenes that means we need cashflow and getting shut of Evans has helped raise cash and get rid of his wages.
Best available team might have been a better statement, Coutts being the obvious missing piece. I suspect he may be closer than we think although bringing in Duffy/Woodburn makes us stronger and more balanced IMO.
 
I have mixed feelings about this, I agree that playing him with Lundstram definitely didn't work, & that he wasn't exactly playing out of his skin, but technically he is very good, the way he sorted his feet out for that volley against 'Boro & how he saw the picture in his head is beyond average players, but it was a rare moment of quality really. I do wish him well, but the way Wilders comment (expressed a desire to move) was worded makes me think something was going on that we are not party to & I hope it turns out to be not as bad as it sounds.
Yes I agree the problem with Lundstram and Evans is they were too similar in style for the same team. Every side needs a “water carrier.”
 
Evans on the move...

Evans, 24, said he was over the moon to make his return to the DW, eight months after his loan with Paul Cook’s side was cut short by then parent club Wolves, to allow for a permanent switch to Sheffield United.

“I am delighted to be back,” Evans said. “I thoroughly enjoyed my previous spell with the club, I loved my time here and it was taken out of my hands when I had to leave but I am delighted to be back.

“This move came a little bit out of left field but I am over the moon to be back.

“I think I have [played some of my best football at Wigan Athletic]; that first six months with the club, I think we were playing really well, we had a settled team and a team that was winning games consistently and I think that then carried on for me, personally, in the second half of the season at Sheffield United.”

An eye for a spectacular goal, Evans scored an EFL Goal of the Season contender for the Blades last season and says he hopes Latics fans remember a couple of his special hits at the DW last term.

“It was a special goal – probably the highlight of my time there,” Evans added. “I think the Wigan fans will hopefully remember I scored a decent goal or two here as well, so hopefully I can add more.

“I enjoyed my time with Sheffield United, met a lot of great people along the way, but this has come up as another fantastic opportunity for me.

“I think adding more caps for Wales has been great for me personally and then playing regularly for Sheffield United in the Championship has been good too, I know what to expect after that half season and the few before I had been involved with for Wolves as well.”

Evans continued by saying Cook was a huge factor in his decision to return to the DW and finished with a message for Latics’ fans.

“The manager is a massive reason as to why I have come back,” he continued. “I thoroughly enjoyed my time with him, Leam [Richardson] and Ant [Barry] – all the staff really – and it was a tough thing when I did have to leave Wigan. I have kept in touch with them and for them to show their faith in me in a permanent deal is great.

“Thank you for the support that you did give me last year, I didn’t really get the opportunity to say that, and I am delighted to be back, hopefully I can put in similar performances to the last time I was here.”

https://www.wiganathletic.com/news/...fter-completing-his-return-to-wigan-athletic/
 
Not sorry to see him leave. Never rated him. Too slow ponderous didn’t make positive passes and inclined to surrender the ball. Not one of CW’s better signings
 
I’ll say GLTTL.

And that we are not as urgently in need of a direct replacement as many would suggest. Top heavy in midfield

If the extra funds / wages freed up ultimately go on strengthening the striker department, I’m OK with that.

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Don’t know that I agree there..

Lunstram decent enough but hit and miss, and fleck for the 2.

Massive question marks over Leonard (quality?) and coutts (fitness and rehab) remain.

We’re an injury or suspension away from screwed atm. There’s nowt on the bench either with Holmes out of the door.
 
I’ll say GLTTL.

And that we are not as urgently in need of a direct replacement as many would suggest. Top heavy in midfield

If the extra funds / wages freed up ultimately go on strengthening the striker department, I’m OK with that.

UTB

It’s about quality of the midfield not quantity. We have Fleck, Duffy and Coutts (injured)as the ONLY 3 midfield players at the club who are good enough at this level. The others, may or may not come good, we can’t afford to gamble on that. We need to add a quality midfielder urgently. Luke Freeman would be excellent , hope to God it’s him.

As for strikers...we won’t be signing any more till Jan, if at all. Hope I’m wrong but I think Wilder will stick with what he’s got because of the finances.
 
I’m baffled to be honest. He’s started the first two games and now he’s gone.

Why play him if he’s not in your plans. I appreciate Coutts is the man, but he’s not fit and this will take time so what’s the other option?! If Evans wasn’t it why start him and not go with your back up plan!

No matter what your thoughts on Evans is, the decision to play him and get rid at the first opportunity is damn right bizarre.
 

Agree, but I would like someone like Norwood to come in.

He'd be an upgrade on what we currently have and alleviate the pressure on Coutts.
I disagree with you.

In that if this was to pan out, one of Norwood or Coutts would have to settle for a place on the bench.
It’s an unnecessary deployment of resources when we are paper thin up top.

We have 3 strikers.

1 is categorically NGE.

1 is Meh !!

1 is Good if played correctly. But is limited in certain other aspects.

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