Kyle Naughton?

[Sothall_Blade]

The way Hoddle setup the England side was far superior to anyone including Robson tactically. (Robson altered during 86 becuase of injuries and player pressure) He spotted that 4-4-2 was past its sellby date and had our players playing 3-5-2, 4-2-3-1, 4-5-1 formations and getting results while doing it.
In Le Tournoi (allbeit a friendly tournament) we schooled Italy and France (the latter of which went on to be World Champions the next season) tactically.

Hoddle was a great England manager who actually had us starting to think properly about England playing technical and tactical sound football, on the ground while winning games.
Sacked for none football reasons, which should have been sorted out whlie remaining in his position. He left to the detriment of the national team which is now only just starting to see the light.

Wow, talk about rose-coloured spectacles. Personally, I think this article about his sacking is more accurate:-

"After a poor World Cup at France 98 - England lost to Romania and only made the last 16 before losing to Argentina on penalties - Hoddle needed a good start to the Euro 2000 qualifying campaign. Instead, he got a 2-1 defeat in Sweden with Paul Ince sent off and the tabloids yet again bemoaned the manager's tactics. England followed the Sweden defeat with a 0-0 home draw against Bulgaria and a less-than-convincing 3-0 win at whipping boys Luxembourg.

Qualification even at this early stage looked likely only through a play-off as the Swedes looked certain to win the group. The media and fans wanted blood but the FA were loath to sack a man who had been so respected at every level as both player and manager. And sacking costs money, of course... However, Hoddle then shot himself in the foot and offered the FA a genuine reason to get rid of him with his infamous views on disabled people paying the price for sins in a former life.

Whether Le Hod would have survived the campaign is open to debate. He had already lost some the respect of some of the players following the publication of his World Cup Diary and one more defeat would have ended his career anyway. "

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Duplicate post. See above.

 

[SoccerCynic]

Yes, I've heard they all get a council tax rebate since you moved out there.

You know me Metty, if I can help somebody
BTW are you back now..lowering standards in Sheff.

 

[metty]

You know me Metty, if I can help somebody
BTW are you back now..lowering standards in Sheff.

I'm afraid I am, If you fancy the trek up here from pointyhead land then I'm in the Cricketers or the Copthorne before games.

 

[broomhillblade]

None taken Matt, I don't actually live there anyway, I live on the coast about 25 miles away, it's much nicer out here

I shall be spending next week in Cromer.

Should I bring my sun tan oil and budgie smugglers?

 

[bladeinlondon]

its well known that kyle N is home sick and has never settled darn sarf unlike kyle W. Doesnt mean he will be back for us tho!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Wow, talk about rose-coloured spectacles. Personally, I think this article about his sacking is more accurate:-

"After a poor World Cup at France 98 - England lost to Romania and only made the last 16 before losing to Argentina on penalties - Hoddle needed a good start to the Euro 2000 qualifying campaign. Instead, he got a 2-1 defeat in Sweden with Paul Ince sent off and the tabloids yet again bemoaned the manager's tactics. England followed the Sweden defeat with a 0-0 home draw against Bulgaria and a less-than-convincing 3-0 win at whipping boys Luxembourg.

Qualification even at this early stage looked likely only through a play-off as the Swedes looked certain to win the group. The media and fans wanted blood but the FA were loath to sack a man who had been so respected at every level as both player and manager. And sacking costs money, of course... However, Hoddle then shot himself in the foot and offered the FA a genuine reason to get rid of him with his infamous views on disabled people paying the price for sins in a former life.

Whether Le Hod would have survived the campaign is open to debate. He had already lost some the respect of some of the players following the publication of his World Cup Diary and one more defeat would have ended his career anyway. "

England matched Argentina for 120 mins playing a good proportion of it with 10 men. His 60% win rate was certainly superior to those who followed (and most of those who precided). I'll stick by my feelings that if Keegan got us qualified then Hoddle certainly would have done. As for the fans and press turning on him because of a few poor results, well how familar does that sound. Manager not wanting to play the traditional, limited tactics hounded out of the club while in transition.
How many more articles did we see about how England players can't play anything but 4-4-2.

There is no doubt the man is arrogant, and will rub some players up the wrong way, however he would have gotten results and the players soon shut up once results fall into placed.
He was also unpopular with the press because he didn't take Gascoigne to the world cup, so they were gunning for him, and they wanted Owen to start every game instead of Sheringham or Shearer. In hindsight, I would say I would have stayed with Shearer and him and Sheringham weren't a too bad comination, especially with Owen (a kid at the time) coming off the bench.

To get back OT, I had heard the rumours, he wanted to come back, not interested in money just wanted to come home, but it was all pre-season and turned out to be nothing once he signed for Norwich. Therefore I think its the same crap coming round again.

 

[norfolkblade]

I shall be spending next week in Cromer.

Should I bring my sun tan oil and budgie smugglers?

Seen enough of that in the summer, but hey if you can brave the wind coming straight off the North Sea then I will congratulate you on such an effort!

 

[Sothall_Blade]

England matched Argentina for 120 mins playing a good proportion of it with 10 men. His 60% win rate was certainly superior to those who followed (and most of those who precided). I'll stick by my feelings that if Keegan got us qualified then Hoddle certainly would have done. As for the fans and press turning on him because of a few poor results, well how familar does that sound. Manager not wanting to play the traditional, limited tactics hounded out of the club while in transition.
How many more articles did we see about how England players can't play anything but 4-4-2.

There is no doubt the man is arrogant, and will rub some players up the wrong way, however he would have gotten results and the players soon shut up once results fall into placed.
He was also unpopular with the press because he didn't take Gascoigne to the world cup, so they were gunning for him, and they wanted Owen to start every game instead of Sheringham or Shearer. In hindsight, I would say I would have stayed with Shearer and him and Sheringham weren't a too bad comination, especially with Owen (a kid at the time) coming off the bench.

To get back OT, I had heard the rumours, he wanted to come back, not interested in money just wanted to come home, but it was all pre-season and turned out to be nothing once he signed for Norwich. Therefore I think its the same crap coming round again.

We ended up playing Argentina because we didn't win our group after losing to Romania. Romania didn't even make the Quarter Finals but we still lost to them. Argentina went out in the Quarter-Finals, so were no world-beaters either. If the press and public were clamouring for the inclusion of Owen, they were proved right by his performances and goals once he was selected. Hoddle famously said that Owen wasn't "a natural goalscorer"!?

He had 28 matches to change the style of play, so we were hardly still "in transition" when he was sacked. I certainly don't remember any thrilling, revolutionary football while he was manager. The most we ever scored under him was 3 goals (even against the minnows) and his best moments were typical English backs-to-the-wall, hold-on-for-a-draw results against Italy (in Rome) and the Argies.

His World Cup Diary was a huge mistake, his comments about disabled people were disgusting and results weren't falling into place.
Lost to Sweden, 0-0 draw at home with Bulgaria. That's why he was sacked.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

He had 28 matches to change the style of play, so we were hardly still "in transition" when he was sacked.

28 matches with a rather high win percentage?

 

[Sothall_Blade]

28 matches with a rather high win percentage?

86% win percentage in his first seven competitive matches.
37% win percentage in his last eight competitive matches.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

86% win percentage in his first seven competitive matches.
37% win percentage in his last eight competitive matches.

So you don't think he had an impressive win percentage ratio throughout his reign?

 

[Sothall_Blade]

So you don't think he had an impressive win percentage ratio throughout his reign?

I think the facts speak for themselves. He won 6 out of the first 7 against mediocre teams but lost to Italy at home.
Then he won only 3 out of of the last 8, again failing to win whenever we played a team of substance.
He didn't win a single competitive game against one of the World's top 16 teams.
By the end of his reign, we were losing to Sweden and drawing with Bulgaria at home:-

Teams we beat:- Moldova, Poland, Georgia, Tunisia, Colombia, Luxembourg
Teams we didn't:- Italy, Romania, Argentina, Sweden, Bulgaria

 

[shorehamview]

28 matches with a rather high win percentage?

Kevin Blackwell had a very good win percentage as United manager. Shall we get him back?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Kevin Blackwell had a very good win percentage as United manager. Shall we get him back?

Can't remember him being very progressive, even with a wage bill which consistantly dwarfed the vast majority of the league.
Blackwell spent a fortune, played predictable football which started to turn fans off coming to matches, had big issues with Pembo and the academy staff over how the game should be played, and consistantly under performed.