Kyel Reid Gone

[mattbianco1]

It's not like it's just Reid is it really?

France?
Taylor?

Or the players he doesn't sign who don't play like Little.

What's everyones issue with Taylor? He's steady enough. Not the tallest not the fastest but does a job none the less.

CAN...... WORMS...... OPENED!

Que backfire

 

[Nick Jansky]

Interesting comment that somebody has left on the Star's website underneath the story about Reid's departure:

Utd still think this lad has got potential but he has "not settled" in the North, in other words he isn't turning up on time or training properly. This is therefore best for all parties.
In terms of other transfers, I understand Utd are still looking for a first choice left back after they were 95% certain Mulgrew would sign.
Bartley and Walker or Naughton will sign on loan nearer the season starts once Prem sides have to name their 25 man squads (might even be after season starts and on deadline day).
Utd will eventually sign Nosworthy - deal very close with less fee upfront but big "add-on" if Blades are promoted.
Still in talks with a defender from the world cup but complicated by Utd paying more for Nos and forking out dead money on Walton.
Are on look out for a wide player but can't afford those that would be "first-teamers" and deals not adding up for those that are just squad players. Will ride with what they have got now subject to more cash coming in (see below).
Still strong whispers that Henderson is "for sale at the right price" - his wage is now out of line with the new wage structure and his contract is running down. This could be a big deal very close to deadline day. Utd have got deals pending on such a move - new striker, wide player and full-back, but, even if you are not a fan of his, this could be a major disruption if it happens so late we don't have time to sign players to replace him or they need time to settle in.
Blackwell is generally happy with his current squad and would rather keep Hendo, his only concern with the squad is he would dearly love to replace the pace of Camarra with a younger, fitter model but can't find that person on current budget.

 

[SwissBlade]

Really? I mean REALLY??

Can you name these young lads that have been "slaughtered" on coming into the team?

If anything I think it is exactly the opposite. A kid coming through the ranks has always had far more leeway than players bought in from outside and I'm thinking right back to Jones, Birchy, Badger and Woody here. Even Len (who has been known to be a tad critical) is full of praise for the Kyles.

S Quinn has always been slated, but Walker has had a fair amount of stick for the odd mistake...

 

[davidpinder]

Morning Swiss,

Back with the Pro Blackwell crew I see!
I only say as I see
Can't remember when Blackwell ever unearthed a gem signing like Charlie Adams or Graham Dorrans!

With you all the way on this one, but players don't get chance to become gems at the lane because they get sold. Am sure Walton was going to become a gem and Kozluk will have a new lease of life

 

[Micalijo]

Loan deals - Whats confusing Fiery? Each Loan deal is done differently, meaning that negotiations take place on % of wages paid by each club, recall clauses, fees paid, 1st refusal at the end of the loan etc

As for Blackie and the academy. Blackies the team manager, doesn't mean that he's pig headed if he doesn't pick players from the academy, it may just mean that he thinks he can get a better player elsewhere. Personally i'd prefer us to get more academy players coming through but then again if they came through, people on here would be overly critical of young lads making mistakes and slaughter them. Simon Walton is a perfect example of an academy (not our academy) player thats been slated/ written off... yet he's only 22!!!

Blackie and other managers have been backed into corners over injuries elsewhere, it generally means that the pressure is off a young lad coming in. It still doesn't get away from the fact that the manager decided to blood a youngster instead of going in for a loanee.

When you said you were preparing to give Blackwell another chance I didn't expect you to go over into full on Clapper mode - Disorderly will be worried that you are threatening his position. Some of this stuff from you today is truly unbelievable.

 

[Jostein Flo]

Really? I mean REALLY??

Can you name these young lads that have been "slaughtered" on coming into the team?

If anything I think it is exactly the opposite. A kid coming through the ranks has always had far more leeway than players bought in from outside and I'm thinking right back to Jones, Birchy, Badger and Woody here. Even Len (who has been known to be a tad critical) is full of praise for the Kyles.

Billy got absolutely crucified by some sections of the fans for his failure to find the net...

 

[Nick Jansky]

When you said you were preparing to give Blackwell another chance I didn't expect you to go over into full on Clapper mode - Disorderly will be worried that you are threatening his position. Some of this stuff from you today is truly unbelievable.

Maybe Swiss is like me, Mic. I am definitely NOT a Blackwell fan. However, I certainly don't blame him for everything that goes wrong, or appears to go wrong from our outside view, because of course to do so would be monumentally stupid. No matter what your feelings about him, if you refuse to recognise some of the difficulties he has very clearly had to operate under it does kind of undermine your position.

 

[Grecian2000]

S Quinn has always been slated, but Walker has had a fair amount of stick for the odd mistake...

OK, we'll have to agree to disagree, as I think both players were given a good reception into the team.

S Quinn has "earned" his stick over the last couple of seasons rather than being an instant "slaughter" and I suspect some of the Walker "stick" was more a reaction to Len disagreeing with his sale rather than a true reflection of what people really thought about him.

 

[Grecian2000]

Billy got absolutely crucified by some sections of the fans for his failure to find the net...

Billy had cost £2m by the time he got a chance in the first team. Therefore he was "crucified" as a highly expensive import NOT as an academy kid.

 

[lenners]

S Quinn has always been slated, but Walker has had a fair amount of stick for the odd mistake...

Er, by about one or two less than considered posters on here - at matches, none at all.

 

[Micalijo]

Maybe Swiss is like me, Mic. I am definitely NOT a Blackwell fan. However, I certainly don't blame him for everything that goes wrong, or appears to go wrong from our outside view, because of course to do so would be monumentally stupid. No matter what your feelings about him, if you refuse to recognise some of the difficulties he has very clearly had to operate under it does kind of undermine your position.

I do recognise that he has had some difficulties, selling Walker for example. Cresswell's injury, Paddy's cough - but he has vast resources compared with his competitors and did very little last term with those resources.

Sorry Nick but a £14m wage bill is not anyway akin to managing under genuinely difficult circumstances, irrespective of how many injuries there were.

The sides we fielded in our worst displays last term were all perfectly decent and many managers would have loved to have had the same options. I know he is a crap manager, you know he is a crap manager, Swiss knows he is a crap manager - everyone knows he is a crap manager.

 

[JohnDenver]

everyone knows he is a crap manager.

It undermines your argument when you say things like that. As well as the will of the reader to continue reading.

 

[shorehamview]

Er, by about one or two less than considered posters on here - at matches, none at all.

Your seat must be brilliant. It enables you to hear every single word spoken by every single person at every single United match. Combined with the 20/20 hindsight it's a wonder you've not discovered a gateway to another dimension under it, or a tiny universe, as small as a pin-head but perfect none the less.

Or a book on exaggeration and how to avoid it.

 

[Fiery Blade]

The reason Mic and many others think he is a crap manager is that he has never done anything to disprove that theory.
He arrived here to find a very talented bunch of players that had lost their way under Robson -
Since then he has spent a fortune, loaned virtually two full teams of players, pissed off several players and blamed everybody and everything except himself.
The major problem at the Lane is thaT bLACKWELL AND eLLIS are IN CHARGE.
Honestly we'd be better served with the CHUCKLE BROTHERS than those two!

 

[JohnDenver]

The reason Mic and many others think he is a crap manager is that he has never done anything to disprove that theory.
He arrived here to find a very talented bunch of players that had lost their way under Robson -
Since then he has spent a fortune, loaned virtually two full teams of players, pissed off several players and blamed everybody and everything except himself.
The major problem at the Lane is thaT bLACKWELL AND eLLIS are IN CHARGE.
Honestly we'd be better served with the CHUCKLE BROTHERS than those two!

I understand the criticisms. I've read them enough times!

But there are better ways of engaging people than repetition and exaggeration. A lot of what is said might be right, but the delivery is often exhausting...

 

[shorehamview]

The reason Mic and many others think he is a crap manager is that he has never done anything to disprove that theory.
He arrived here to find a very talented bunch of players that had lost their way under Robson.....

He managed to help those players find their way again, he took us close to the play-offs and the following season into the play-off final, so I reckon that disproves the "crap" theory.

He's not crap, but neither is he great. I think he's average. If he stays as our manager for ever then I don't think we've got a cat in hell's chance of promotion, but then again I don't think we'd get relegated with him either. He's not shit, he's not great, he's the mid-table man.

But mid-table isn't what we want. We want promotion. And Blackwell isn't the man to get us there. Not because he's crap, but because he's not great. We want great, or at least, we need great for this division, like Warnock and Bassett. And I think Warnock was great partly because he was at times lucky too. Blackwell hasn't had the best of luck, but when you are merely average, you don't need a bit of luck, you need a truckload. Every other week.

Blackwell's not crap, far from it. But not far enough.

 

[Fiery Blade]

He managed to help those players find their way again, he took us close to the play-offs and the following season into the play-off final, so I reckon that disproves the "crap" theory.

He's not crap, but neither is he great. I think he's average. If he stays as our manager for ever then I don't think we've got a cat in hell's chance of promotion, but then again I don't think we'd get relegated with him either. He's not shit, he's not great, he's the mid-table man.

But mid-table isn't what we want. We want promotion. And Blackwell isn't the man to get us there. Not because he's crap, but because he's not great. We want great, or at least, we need great for this division, like Warnock and Bassett. And I think Warnock was great partly because he was at times lucky too. Blackwell hasn't had the best of luck, but when you are merely average, you don't need a bit of luck, you need a truckload. Every other week.

Blackwell's not crap, far from it. But not far enough.

That my friend is as measured an arguement as I have heard - whilst we may disagree to his level of competancy I do agree that as Blades we are looking for someone to lead our club into the Premier League.
Bassett did it in fantastic fashion with much less resource than Blackwell has squandered - Warnock did it doing what he does best - motivation
Holloway did it with Blackpool, Coyle did it with Burnley, McCarthy did it with Wolves - The supporters aspirations have been been fuelled by McCabes boasts regarding Sheffield United - Premier Club - Europe in Five Years etc etc and now have turned into a hopeful championship side hanging on to the coattails of sides like Swansea, Cardiff, Leicester who have been either in or very close to administration in the past and still put out a side that can play us off the park

 

[SwissBlade]

He managed to help those players find their way again, he took us close to the play-offs and the following season into the play-off final, so I reckon that disproves the "crap" theory.

He's not crap, but neither is he great. I think he's average. If he stays as our manager for ever then I don't think we've got a cat in hell's chance of promotion, but then again I don't think we'd get relegated with him either. He's not shit, he's not great, he's the mid-table man.

But mid-table isn't what we want. We want promotion. And Blackwell isn't the man to get us there. Not because he's crap, but because he's not great. We want great, or at least, we need great for this division, like Warnock and Bassett. And I think Warnock was great partly because he was at times lucky too. Blackwell hasn't had the best of luck, but when you are merely average, you don't need a bit of luck, you need a truckload. Every other week.

Blackwell's not crap, far from it. But not far enough.

Possibly the best summary of Blackwell I've read on here in the last year since I signed up for this Forum.

Trouble is were stuck with him, ah well here's to Blackie getting some luck

 

[Micalijo]

Possibly the best summary of Blackwell I've read on here in the last year since I signed up for this Forum.

Trouble is were stuck with him, ah well here's to Blackie getting some luck

It does not disprove the crap theory at all. My Auntie Winnie could have done pretty much the same as Blackwell in the first year and a half and even then he made unbelievably hard work of it and totally cocked it up when it mattered. Last term was just a total outrage. To say he is 'far from crap' is not a good summary at all, not by a long way. He has achieved the absoluet minimum, and delivered it in a mind numbingly boring manner that has turned thousands of Blades against him.

 

[SwissBlade]

It does not disprove the crap theory at all. My Auntie Winnie could have done pretty much the same as Blackwell in the first year and a half and even then he made unbelievably hard work of it and totally cocked it up when it mattered. Last term was just a total outrage. To say he is 'far from crap' is not a good summary at all, not by a long way. He has achieved the absoluet minimum, and delivered it in a mind numbingly boring manner that has turned thousands of Blades against him.

I disagree about his first year and a half. Last season yes, but the two seasons before it just went down hill slowly.

I'm hoping for the sake of sanity that he manages to find his ability again and starts managing with more confidence

 

[Fiery Blade]

Morning Swiss,

Its not about finding ability and confidence
Its about losing stubborness,arrogance and self indulgency and also to stop treating the fans like cretins!
Show some humility Blackwell then perhaps we will give you some support!

 

[SwissBlade]

Morning Swiss,

Its not about finding ability and confidence
Its about losing stubborness,arrogance and self indulgency and also to stop treating the fans like cretins!
Show some humility Blackwell then perhaps we will give you some support!

I agree to an extent Fiery (is this the first time ever) but I think if he gets his confidence back in himself and his players then I think we'll see a more daring or even expressive United.

Blackie doesn't handle criticism which comes as part of his arrogance, but I also think any manager needs that.

How many succesfull managers haven't been slightly arrogant or over confident in their ability?

 

[Fiery Blade]

I agree to an extent Fiery (is this the first time ever) but I think if he gets his confidence back in himself and his players then I think we'll see a more daring or even expressive United.

Blackie doesn't handle criticism which comes as part of his arrogance, but I also think any manager needs that.

How many succesfull managers haven't been slightly arrogant or over confident in their ability?

Generally the ones that had won something eg Clough, Shankley, Ferguson, Mourinho, Venables, Graham etc
Thats the key word Swiss SUCCESSFUL Blackwell has never won a bean as a manager, my tip would be to get all the fans on his side first before the show of arrogance then perhaps people would support him more!

 

[Robbie]

S Quinn has always been slated, but Walker has had a fair amount of stick for the odd mistake...

Walker never got any grief from the terraces, and I saw no grief before he went back to Spurs.
SQuinn, another one who the fans backed for a long time, however his performances have drastically dropped from what we were first offered. He has simply lost his way. By continuously playing him, it has got to the point where he seemed to be getting worse.

Billy got absolutely crucified by some sections of the fans for his failure to find the net...

How long did United fans get behind Billy? Had he not been a Blade, he would have been slaughtered long before he did get it.
The level of his performance was poor.

Regardless what he has done elsewhere, he couldn't cut it with us, for whatever reason.

 

[JohnDenver]

How long did United fans get behind Billy? Had he not been a Blade, he would have been slaughtered long before he did get it.
The level of his performance was poor.

On that front, the crowd has been kind to Chedwyn. Billy ran around getting offside and never scoring. Chedwyn hasn't even bothered with the first bit yet.

I'd like to think fans are just giving youngsters a break, regardless of their origin.