Kop needs urgent redevelopment

[JJBlade]

BLOCKING GANGWAYS.

BUT DONT LET THE FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF KNOCKING PART OF THE FANBASE.

#prayingforthoseoverseasnonbladefamilymemberswhosechristmasisruinedbynotbeingabletogetaticketfortoday/madeupbollocks

Talking of whinging, boring fans
Somebody who just cannot let a previous subject drop

Non fans from different countries won't register, simple as that. Now STFU about it

 

[Trigger Blade]

Almost all the older members of my family support Wendy. The reason I became a United fan was because United had much better fans.

If I was a kid today I would probably have followed them like the rest of the older members of my family because sadly United fans have turned into a right bunch of pricks

It’s never too late JJ, in fact I reckon there’d be some support for a whip round to get you a ticket for the dark side.

You’ve never said anything positive about the club you claim to support, in fact I think you’ve been accused of oinker tendencies, so it won’t be that much of a transition for you.

Good luck for the future in L1!

 

[BigBed]

What happens at the Lane with people standing and being in the wrong place so that they can talk to their mates, or try to create an atmosphere with like minded people happens at every stadium.

It's just that fans of other teams don't whinge and bitch about it.

Our siddarners have moaned, whinged and bitched about a relatively miniscule problem so much that they have brought the problem to the attention of the hi vis jacket mob.

The hi vis jacket mob have then used their "Sheffield only SS tactics" to annoy fans which has created further trouble, which has brought it to the attention of the police.

This has then brought it to the attention of the safety committee

And all because a bunch of miserable siddarners couldn't keep their gobs shut and let kids be kids

Almost all the older members of my family support Wendy. The reason I became a United fan was because United had much better fans.

If I was a kid today I would probably have followed them like the rest of the older members of my family because sadly United fans have turned into a right bunch of pricks

Only, its not moaning fans that have caused this, its bellends, sitting in other peoples seats, standing where they shouldn't and causing overcrowding and safety issues!
The only "bunch of pricks" involved, are the pricks that have caused the fucking issues! If you want to go to the match, and you want to be near your mates, do it right, buy a fucking season ticket and make sure your seat is next to your mates!, don't just turn up playing billy big bollocks and sit in someonelses fucking seat, and then get all mardy when asked to move!

 

[Sean Thornton]

Talking of whinging, boring fans
Somebody who just cannot let a previous subject drop

Non fans from different countries won't register, simple as that. Now STFU about it

Keep making things up despite the facts being clear. You’ve been a one trick self important pony for years. Now you’re reduced to suggesting some fans have tipped off SAG or whoever about people standing even though numerous posters have told you that’s not the case.

Not really surprising when you don’t have the mental capacity to find your way around the ticketing system.

 

[Sean Thornton]

It’s never too late JJ, in fact I reckon there’d be some support for a whip round to get you a ticket for the dark side.

You’ve never said anything positive about the club you claim to support, in fact I think you’ve been accused of oinker tendencies, so it won’t be that much of a transition for you.

Good luck for the future in L1!

If he can get a ticket for S6 for him, his fantasy mates, family and overseas imaginaries, as long as they can sit together, they’ll get a genuine sell out. Or not.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Talking of whinging, boring fans
Somebody who just cannot let a previous subject drop

 

[JJBlade]

Keep making things up despite the facts being clear. You’ve been a one trick self important pony for years. Now you’re reduced to suggesting some fans have tipped off SAG or whoever about people standing even though numerous posters have told you that’s not the case.

Not really surprising when you don’t have the mental capacity to find your way around the ticketing system.

I can find my way around the ticketing system quite easily

The whole discussion centred around why a good team could not sell out at Bramall Lane whilst Warnocks hoofers did, many times.

Reasons why this has happened were put forward,

The fact is, it is more difficult to get a ticket than it was before is the most realistic reason rather than the better United have got the less fans they suddenly have.

But keep twisting what people say, it's what you seem to enjoy doing when you hear opinions that you don't like.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I can find my way around the ticketing system quite easily

The whole discussion centred around why a good team could not sell out at Bramall Lane whilst Warnocks hoofers did, many times.

Reasons why this has happened were put forward,

The fact is, it is more difficult to get a ticket than it was before is the most realistic reason rather than the better United have got the less fans they suddenly have.

But keep twisting what people say, it's what you seem to enjoy doing when you hear opinions that you don't like.

You talk bollocks all the time. Make things up and as has been pointed out, only post negatives about the club and our fans.

As for twisting things, do you read your own posts? Suggesting ST holders reported the club to SAG is a new low, even for you. So FO.

 

[JJBlade]

You talk bollocks all the time. Make things up and as has been pointed out, only post negatives about the club and our fans.

As for twisting things, do you read your own posts? Suggesting ST holders reported the club to SAG is a new low, even for you. So FO.

I didn't say season ticket holders reported anybody

I said a certain number of whinging fans have moaned at those standing up, season ticket holder or not never came into the discussion.

There is no proof that those standing, or sitting in the wrong place or blocking gangways are non season ticket holders or season ticket holders

But being at a game and I've seen it, as soon as anyone stands because we've got a corner or something and the moaning twats start.

A person could stand directly I'm front of me and I wouldn't care a damn and I certainly wouldn't bitch and complain so much that the stewards start moving in creating an even bigger problem

The question is why are these extreme restrictions taken at Bramall Lane when you can see the problem is much worse at other stadiums.

It only becomes a problem when the authorities get involved, and our bitching, moaning fans have got the first line of authority (the stewards) involved with their constant siddarning.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I didn't say season ticket holders reported anybody

I said a certain number of whinging fans have moaned at those standing up, season ticket holder or not never came into the discussion.

There is no proof that those standing, or sitting in the wrong place or blocking gangways are non season ticket holders or season ticket holders

But being at a game and I've seen it, as soon as anyone stands because we've got a corner or something and the moaning twats start.

A person could stand directly I'm front of me and I wouldn't care a damn and I certainly wouldn't bitch and complain so much that the stewards start moving in creating an even bigger problem

The question is why are these extreme restrictions taken at Bramall Lane when you can see the problem is much worse at other stadiums.

It only becomes a problem when the authorities get involved, and our bitching, moaning fans have got the first line of authority (the stewards) involved with their constant siddarning.

“ The siddarners have brought it to the attention of the authorities in the first place”

Who else would they be sat at the back of the Kop? There are no tickets available there so pretty obvious they must be ST holders.

How do you know fans have brought it to the attention of the authorities.


Oh, the first line of authority. The stewards? The stewards employed by a company wholly owned by Blades Leisure Ltd. So, Columbo, the club reported itself then? Jesus Christ man.

 

[JJBlade]

“ The siddarners have brought it to the attention of the authorities in the first place”

Who else would they be sat at the back of the Kop? There are no tickets available there so pretty obvious they must be ST holders.

How do you know fans have brought it to the attention of the authorities.


Oh, the first line of authority. The stewards? The stewards employed by a company wholly owned by Blades Leisure Ltd. So, Columbo, the club reported itself then? Jesus Christ man.

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The stewards are the first line of authority
Regularly reporting to the club, the police and the safety exec

 

[BigBed]

I didn't say season ticket holders reported anybody

I said a certain number of whinging fans have moaned at those standing up, season ticket holder or not never came into the discussion.

There is no proof that those standing, or sitting in the wrong place or blocking gangways are non season ticket holders or season ticket holders

But being at a game and I've seen it, as soon as anyone stands because we've got a corner or something and the moaning twats start.

A person could stand directly I'm front of me and I wouldn't care a damn and I certainly wouldn't bitch and complain so much that the stewards start moving in creating an even bigger problem

The question is why are these extreme restrictions taken at Bramall Lane when you can see the problem is much worse at other stadiums.

It only becomes a problem when the authorities get involved, and our bitching, moaning fans have got the first line of authority (the stewards) involved with their constant siddarning.

The fans did not bring it to the attention of the authorities!, the Stewards and SYP did, and if you bothered to pay attention to what is actually happening, instead of just slating everything about the club, you might not look/sound, such a cock on here.

 

[Magic 20]

The ground improvement debate will unfortunately always linger on because our ground isn't good enough anymore for the club grow and compete in the Premier League, as we would all hope. My take is this:

The Kop is obviously the biggest problem which needs addressing ASAP. Poor viewing angles, poles obstructing the view, insufficient legroom, outside concourse, poor toilets and food facilities, the majority of entrances/exits being at the back more or less forcing everybody in one direction - these are all major issues, some of which could even force the closure of the entire stand in time.

What it really needs is demolishing and a brand new stand building in its place. However, apart from the high cost of doing this there will be a lot of knock-on issues if we did go down this route. The stand would be closed for 18 months minimum - where are the 7000-8000 season ticket holders who currently sit on the Kop going to go? We just haven't got the spare capacity to place them all elsewhere.

The better solution would be to add an extra tier to the South Stand (using the current plans) which would enable an extra 6000 seats to be added to the capacity whilst not disrupting the existing match day experience. It would also provide space to place the current Kop season ticket holders when the Kop redevelopment finally takes place (as it must at sometime). There would be additional benefits such as increased hospitality revenue and, unlike the Kop, these plans look impressive.

Once this is completed then the demolition of the kop could commence. The current plans for the Kop though are a joke and do not address many of the problems we, as fans, or the safety officers currently face.

The perfect solution (in my opinion) would be to extend the South Stand lower tier all the way around to meet the John Street side, include rail seating plans (if possible) and use a cantilever design just like the South Stand currently has. this would allow for extending the South Stand upper tier around in the same way along Shoreham Street, should that be necessary in the future.

The final result looking similar to St. James Park for those confused by my description.

Will this happen......probably not....but it should be the plan. The new owner (whoever that will be) should do everything possible to gain control of those 2 pockets of land stolen by McCabe, so that United can submit plans which will be both impressive and address all safety and supporter issues.

The cost involved......tens of millions which can only be achieved by Premier League football, and even then we would have to try and survive on the cheap for a couple of seasons, which generally doesn't happen. I'm not surprised that the Prince wants out as he can see the problems ahead if we do go up.....and if we don't.

 

[Brian Deane]

What happens at the Lane with people standing and being in the wrong place so that they can talk to their mates, or try to create an atmosphere with like minded people happens at every stadium.

It's just that fans of other teams don't whinge and bitch about it.

Our siddarners have moaned, whinged and bitched about a relatively miniscule problem so much that they have brought the problem to the attention of the hi vis jacket mob.

The hi vis jacket mob have then used their "Sheffield only SS tactics" to annoy fans which has created further trouble, which has brought it to the attention of the police.

This has then brought it to the attention of the safety committee

And all because a bunch of miserable siddarners couldn't keep their gobs shut and let kids be kids

Almost all the older members of my family support Wendy. The reason I became a United fan was because United had much better fans.

If I was a kid today I would probably have followed them like the rest of the older members of my family because sadly United fans have turned into a right bunch of pricks

If you don't like your surroundings at the Lane then simply follow your family of piglets to the S6 massive rustbucket.

 

[JJBlade]

If you don't like your surroundings at the Lane then simply follow your family of piglets to the S6 massive rustbucket.

Ahhh diddums
Did somebody say something you don't agree with and your first thought is to call them a pig
Well done

 

[Brian Deane]

Ahhh diddums
Did somebody say something you don't agree with and your first thought is to call them a pig
Well done

If you had the brain cells working that you was born with then you should have worked out you wasn't called a pig and for the record I don't give a shit if you wanna sit or stand up.

 

[Champagneblade]

The stewards are the first line of authority
Regularly reporting to the club, the police and the safety exec

The issue isn't fans not sitting down.

Issue is fans not being in their correct seat and blocking gangways.

Stewards are there to enforce the rules of the stadium. In the words of Roy Keane "that's their job".

United are not in bother primarily because people stand up during the match.

So what's your issue actually with?

 

[JJBlade]

The issue isn't fans not sitting down.

Issue is fans not being in their correct seat and blocking gangways.

Stewards are there to enforce the rules of the stadium. In the words of Roy Keane "that's their job".

United are not in bother primarily because people stand up during the match.

So what's your issue actually with?

The issue that I have is why it has led to the inability to sell tickets on the kop at Bramall Lane when the same thing happens at every stadium on the planet.

People should wonder, people should ask questions, people should think why at the Lane, why ? (at least those with a brain should)

There's too many of our fans that just think "I'm alright Jack, I'll just sit here in total silence like the good old Sheffield commie bastard safety executive want me to, and complain against those that can't siddarn in silence with me" whilst all the time watching what goes on in other stadiums without a single thought as to why this is only happening at Bramall Lane.

There is something much more sinister behind this decision, designed purely by the local authorities doing whatever it can to halt Uniteds progress.

The stewards at Bramall Lane are deliberately aggressive, winding people up, creating pushing and shoving scenarios before people even get in the stadium, formulating evidence, and then reporting that evidence to people who wouldn't even know what a football match is let alone be qualified to make a decision about one.

The question is why ?

 

[reedy63]

What a silly statement season ticket holders report other fans standing up. that is bullshit. on a few occasions, someone is at my seat. I just show my season ticket. reply sorry pal.no aggro or owt. we all support the Blades so no reason to get angry with each other.

 

[Digs blade]

Whilst I don’t agree with a lot of JJ Blades comments, I do agree with his “why us” comments.

Nobody can convince me that these scenarios don’t happen at other clubs yet I’m not aware that they have the restrictions that have been imposed on us.

 

[JayGreen17]

I didn't say season ticket holders reported anybody

I said a certain number of whinging fans have moaned at those standing up, season ticket holder or not never came into the discussion.

There is no proof that those standing, or sitting in the wrong place or blocking gangways are non season ticket holders or season ticket holders

But being at a game and I've seen it, as soon as anyone stands because we've got a corner or something and the moaning twats start.

A person could stand directly I'm front of me and I wouldn't care a damn and I certainly wouldn't bitch and complain so much that the stewards start moving in creating an even bigger problem

The question is why are these extreme restrictions taken at Bramall Lane when you can see the problem is much worse at other stadiums.

It only becomes a problem when the authorities get involved, and our bitching, moaning fans have got the first line of authority (the stewards) involved with their constant siddarning.

The fans should sit where their ticket is allocated and stop being dicks, there’s rules and regs for a reason.

 

[BigBed]

The issue that I have is why it has led to the inability to sell tickets on the kop at Bramall Lane when the same thing happens at every stadium on the planet.

People should wonder, people should ask questions, people should think why at the Lane, why ? (at least those with a brain should)

There's too many of our fans that just think "I'm alright Jack, I'll just sit here in total silence like the good old Sheffield commie bastard safety executive want me to, and complain against those that can't siddarn in silence with me" whilst all the time watching what goes on in other stadiums without a single thought as to why this is only happening at Bramall Lane.

There is something much more sinister behind this decision, designed purely by the local authorities doing whatever it can to halt Uniteds progress.

The stewards at Bramall Lane are deliberately aggressive, winding people up, creating pushing and shoving scenarios before people even get in the stadium, formulating evidence, and then reporting that evidence to people who wouldn't even know what a football match is let alone be qualified to make a decision about one.

The question is why ?

Just to put you out of your misery, as to "why at bramall lane" and "why only united", its about the structure, the design of the kop, the access, the fact that there's a 7'wide high level concourse that makes it an issue for medical teams to assist, a difficult position that could also cause issues if, heaven forbid, there was a fire, oh, and the crushing due to over crowding issues!!
Its not really fucking rocket science is it!
On top of all that, there are real fans that have held ST's up there for years, who suddenly have to put up with a load of wanna be bellends that think they have the god given right to do as they please and fuck everybody else, ruining there match days for them week in week out.
I think the club have done the right thing personally, and, if it continues, I hope they ban the perpetrators.

 

[JJBlade]

Just to put you out of your misery, as to "why at bramall lane" and "why only united", its about the structure, the design of the kop, the access, the fact that there's a 7'wide high level concourse that makes it an issue for medical teams to assist, a difficult position that could also cause issues if, heaven forbid, there was a fire, oh, and the crushing due to over crowding issues!!
Its not really fucking rocket science is it!
On top of all that, there are real fans that have held ST's up there for years, who suddenly have to put up with a load of wanna be bellends that think they have the god given right to do as they please and fuck everybody else, ruining there match days for them week in week out.
I think the club have done the right thing personally, and, if it continues, I hope they ban the perpetrators.

Bunch of fucking mardy arses moaning about other fans that they feel superior to

"Ooooh, I've been sat here for ten years in complete silence being a boring twat, and these young kids are ruining my boring day out"

Never mind a singing section, they should make a boring self entitled section where they can all fall asleep in peace

 

[shorehamview]

After going for a piss halfway through the first half I came back to the Gangway F entrance, and had to ask the two blokes that were blocking the gangway to move. Interestingly they were both wearing hi vis orange coats. Yep, stewards in the way. They did move though.

 

[BigBed]

Bunch of fucking mardy arses moaning about other fans that they feel superior to

"Ooooh, I've been sat here for ten years in complete silence being a boring twat, and these young kids are ruining my boring day out"

Never mind a singing section, they should make a boring self entitled section where they can all fall asleep in peace

Other fucking fans!! Real fans wouldn't have caused the fucking issue!
Real fans look after their own!, they respect people, they don't shit on their own!

 

[Westran]

I sit at the back of the kop, gangway A side, there's plenty of singing and standing and nobody tells you to sit down. It's made up bollocks from people who love to moan.

The fact of the matter is people sat where they shouldn't be sat is the key problem. Its really fucking simple, if people sat where their ticket says, this problem would go away. If you're blaming fans for whinging, you're probably part of the problem and should just accept that you're wrong for once and do the right thing for everyone else.

Senselessly trying to justify your actions cos you can't accept you're wrong is counterproductive

 

[BigBed]

I sit at the back of the kop, gangway A side, there's plenty of singing and standing and nobody tells you to sit down. It's made up bollocks from people who love to moan.

The fact of the matter is people sat where they shouldn't be sat is the key problem. Its really fucking simple, if people sat where their ticket says, this problem would go away. If you're blaming fans for whinging, you're probably part of the problem and should just accept that you're wrong for once and do the right thing for everyone else.

Senselessly trying to justify your actions cos you can't accept you're wrong is counterproductive

The only senseless moaning mardy arseholes, appear to be the thick cunts that have caused this don't they??

 

[Westran]

The only senseless moaning mardy arseholes, appear to be the thick cunts that have caused this don't they??

That's how it seems to be. Problem caused by people who are unwilling to change, then the loudly berate any suggestion that it might be them that are being the arseholes

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

Work has started on the Kop!



Only a lick of paint unfortunately..

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Conversion to student flats by new owners...