I'm not a big Porter fan but I thought that he did much better than Kitson at the weekend. To be fair, neither looked like scoring but Porter won every header, whereas Kitson won few and looked overweight, as he did when he started for us. But I still rate Kitson as the better long term bet - just keep him away from the Christmas food!!
Kitson / Porter
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lawlessdan
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in Kitson's defense , he has just come back from a fairly lengthy injury. I've been a fan of Porter but he seems to have gone off the boil somewhat in recent weeks. That may be to do with fatigue, I don't know, but I think we need Kitson back now. So much more of a threat.
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It does surprise me that professional footballers can get overweight, even when they're injured.
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Fan of Porter?! Gone off the boil?! He might have been on the 'boil' on a few occasions since coming to BDTBL, but by and large, his performances have been 'freezing'. He is one of the worst players I have seen at the Lane. Rarely score goals, rarely creates chances, no pace, poor control. Total donkey. Trouble is DW must rate him. He offered him an extension to his contact. This is worrying. For me Kitson & Miller.
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dont really see how we can criticise any off the srikers who played on saturday, the service to them was none existant
I though Porter would come on for a serious run in the starting line and I like many Blades realise now become a luxury no just a complete waste of time.
Ok he can hold the ball up win flick ons but he must spend 80% of the time with his back to goal.
His strike rate is abysmal, rarely getS in scoring positions and must be a defenders dream to mark.
Wilson must realise he's dropped a bollock and get shut put Kitson straight in and have Ironside as understudy.
Ok he can hold the ball up win flick ons but he must spend 80% of the time with his back to goal.
His strike rate is abysmal, rarely getS in scoring positions and must be a defenders dream to mark.
Wilson must realise he's dropped a bollock and get shut put Kitson straight in and have Ironside as understudy.
lawlessdan
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I will get slated for this but I firmly believe if he started at Wembley we would have won that game. I'm not saying he's a world beater, far from it, but he will always give everything and chase dead causes and win 9/10 of his headers.
Balham
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I agree completely. I couldn't understand the decision to start with Cresswell at the time, particularly given the aerial strength of the Huddersfield centre halves.
Just don't expect Porter to control anything below knee height...3 yard first touch
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I know we have to have a scapegoat and this is Porter. The bloke does nothing wrong in my estimation and plays tye role he is told to. He is tye battering ram and while I understand some may not like the philosophy at this level we need it. It doesn't look great and you are totally reliant on the standard of ball coming into you.
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'Battering Ram', if only! I might forgive his obvious lack of footballing ability if he put himself about, showed a bit of passion, but he's a fanny.
I was horrified when we extended his contract, he must have some dirt on Wilson.
Kitson every time. I'd put Porter slightly ahead of Ironside, but only because of his wheelchairs lack of manouvreability on a wet pitch.
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His strike rate is 8 goals from 30 starts.
1 goal in every 3.75 matches or 12 a season if he started every match.
Therefore, not "abysmal".
Balham
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It's one goal in 8 league starts this season which is bordering on abysmal but that does discount the work he does for the team: Miller in particular has benefited from Porter's hold-up play and flick ons.
Conversely, Kitson has 3 goals in 6 starts. If he and Miller play well together then Porter will lose his place.
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How anybody rates Porter is beyond me. Worst player at the Lane by far. Flynn is not far behind however....
Shock, why the fuck do you watch Utd ?
Balham
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Rubbish. Flynn is one of our better players (granted, behind most of the rest of the first team) and Porter is a useful back-up striker.
You should aim your ire at Cresswell if you're that desperate for a scapegoat.
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I agree but I would imagine that due to the amount of training that they do they eat a lot of food and when they are injured they still crave the same input, which unfortunately doesn't get burnt off very quickly. Look at most ex pros and they seem to pile on the pounds/kilos when they stop playing.
I find it more surprising that players carry a few extra pounds when they haven't been injured, that shows a complete lack of discipline
So 12 goals a season in this league is ok is it? Might be ok in the Prem/Championship when you're looking to consolidate but not when you're looking for a top two spot in League one.
He's 2012 version of Chris Guthrie
Another Flynn basher. Sigh.
I don't understand stick Porter gets either. His limitations - like Flynn's - are quite obvious, but why can't people see what he brings to the team? You have to accept that some sides need a guy to do the ugly work. You can't just run at players all the time and do them for pace or with a trick, not everyone is Messi. Sometimes you have to hold it up and bring others in to play, which Porter does really well. A bit like Hendo used to - he also got hammered for his strike rate by those who couldn't see what he added to the set up.
TI can't believe for a minute that Porter is a "dream to mark" because he wins everything in the air. I bet the bigger, clumsier defenders hate him because that is their only strength and he's better than them at it. Pair him with a quick striker (Miller or Blackman) against that type of defence - which a lot of this division is - and you've got a great partnership.
I don't understand stick Porter gets either. His limitations - like Flynn's - are quite obvious, but why can't people see what he brings to the team? You have to accept that some sides need a guy to do the ugly work. You can't just run at players all the time and do them for pace or with a trick, not everyone is Messi. Sometimes you have to hold it up and bring others in to play, which Porter does really well. A bit like Hendo used to - he also got hammered for his strike rate by those who couldn't see what he added to the set up.
TI can't believe for a minute that Porter is a "dream to mark" because he wins everything in the air. I bet the bigger, clumsier defenders hate him because that is their only strength and he's better than them at it. Pair him with a quick striker (Miller or Blackman) against that type of defence - which a lot of this division is - and you've got a great partnership.
Afraid there was no threat Saturday
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i know there is always a scapegoat but why? i went on saturday and it was bad i admit i moaned all the way home and had the hump but to come on here and bash porter/flynn week in week out isnt going to change the managers team selection is it? it does my head in sat amongst my fellow supporters constantly moaning/groaning about this player and how they could do much better lmfao. I support sufc not mufc so my expectations are a little lower and while we are currently in the third division i dont realistically expect to watch top quality players on the pitch at BDTBL. my advice to anyone on here who cannot abide the thought of the likes of porter, cressy, flynn, d mac, williams or whoever else is the scapegoat playing in the red and white stripes of utd then get in the real world, we are skint and until we get out of this financial mess we are in things aint gunna get any better, THE SHIT HAS HIT THE FAN financially.
JohnDenver
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Hendo's understanding of the term 'strike rate' was more to do with elbows than goals.
*clump*
Bladesway
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Porter gets pelters because someone has to. Flynn gets stick because he can't do 100m in 8 seconds, nutmeg 3 defenders and whip a cross onto the head of the onrushing striker. Even then some would moan that he has to turn inside.
What I struggle with is that some cannot get over the fact we are skint and these are the players we have to play with. All part and parcel of being in the third division. Apparently we are too big for this league. Sound familiar?
What I struggle with is that some cannot get over the fact we are skint and these are the players we have to play with. All part and parcel of being in the third division. Apparently we are too big for this league. Sound familiar?
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12 goals in a season is not a brilliant strike rate but it’s not abysmal for a second striker whose primary role is to be the target man and bring others into the game.
You say it won’t get you promoted but the second top scoring strikers of Charlton, Wednesday and Huddersfield had 12, 12 and 13 goals respectively last season.
It’s quite rare for United to have two strikers scoring more than 10 goals each. I would guess it’s only happened once or twice in the last 20 years.
This 12 goal figure is just a maybe if Porter played in every game till the rest of the season he'd be lucky to total 5 goals.
We've no option to keep him as a squad player but if we can get Kitson alongside Blackman and Miller the goals will come.
Also just to clarify I have no problem with Flynn when played in the correct position
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Sometimes the ball hits him and it goes to Miller who scores.
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