Kit clashes & Stripes

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To compound the stripes issue already discussed....

I just tried to watch the highlights of the Derby friendly.... and it was a total waste of time. White shirts with black shorts against very pale pink shirts with dark grey shorts. I literally had no idea who was on which team.

I can’t wait for the Spurs match. Or Fulham.
 
e17blade said:
To compound the stripes issue already discussed....

I just tried to watch the highlights of the Derby friendly.... and it was a total waste of time. White shirts with black shorts against very pale pink shirts with dark grey shorts. I literally had no idea who was on which team.

I can’t wait for the Spurs match. Or Fulham.
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It’s not good is it? At least wear red shorts and socks.
Or just accept there is a clash and dig out the lime green.
 
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e17blade said:
I have seen mention on a couple of threads about wayward passing against Newcastle and thought I’d ask a question...

Does anyone else struggle with identifying players when we play another team wearing stripes?

It’s a bit different for me because I’m colour blind (red-green colour blind to be precise). I can 100% definitely tell the difference between the red and black stripes when I look at the kits next to each other - and for that matter red and blue when we play Wednesday - but in a situation where things are moving quickly or when I just get a quick glance of something, I really struggle. A lot.

Being colour blind I obviously notice moments in life where I get things wrong due to colour, but I also notice moments when other people seem to as well. These moments usually occur within fast moving situations that call for instinctive reactions. My thinking is that all of you with properly working vision are switched off to this nuance as you take colour completely for granted and never ever consider making a mistake based on colour.

As an example of unthinking use of colour...

Me: which person is Bob?
My wife: he’s the guy in the red shirt
Me: I can’t tell which shirt is red
My wife: he is standing next to the woman in the green dress.

And she knows I’m colour blind!

I ran a football team for years and I got to choose the kit, so we played in BRIGHT yellow and I really think it helped. I also remember reading at the time an article stating that our classic 1990 away kit helped the players because you could instantly spot teammates even by the slightest glance out of the corner of your eye, and also that opponents could too, so they felt increasingly closed down.

It is only a small thing, but I think there is something in it. Marginal gains and all that.

Please note that I am NOT blaming this for our wayward passing against Newcastle - it’s the same for both teams after all. Having said that, we play a lot more quick ‘triangle passes’ than Newcastle so that would make us more susceptible to this issue. I don’t buy the shorts and socks difference thing helping either - it helps a bit on TV from a wider angle, but not close up at speed

It’s probably just me though!

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I empathise entirely mate. Red and brown cause me issues, on a snooker table particularly so can't blame speedy action😆.Chuckled at the reference to the wife's "unthinking". Been there often but got over the stigma long ago.
I steer clear of electrics mind😊
 



Sothall_Blade said:
It’s not good is it? At least wear red shorts and socks. ...
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It's good, don't worry. Very puff shirt the girls dream of. Straight out of a fairy-tale. I must disagree with you, though, about wearing shorts and socks. One's not supposed to wear shorts or any sort of underwear with this beautiful kitty. Socks, maybe.

(And who'll be the first homophobe to tell me that I'm a homophobe because I don't need to show that I'm no homophobe by liking colours mostly adored by pre-puberty aged girls...? It's you the homophobes trying show you're not by liking these colours of a doll house...)
 
Most designs are dictated by the league anyway, has to look clean on the high camera.
 
BornOnShorehamStreet said:
In the early days of colour telly, "Whispering" Ted Lowe, the snooker commentator once said, "and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green."

My father-in-law was colour-blind in the green spectrum I think.

He was in REME from 1950-1975 and rose to WOII so had a great deal of responsibility for teaching cadets, the intricacies of all things electrical and mechanical. Quite often he would be training them on fixing radios etc and he would need to replace a resistor in one of his training sessions. Not being 100% sure which one to choose and not wanting to look anything other than the consummate professional he was, he would "test" the cadets by asking them which resistor was which, and why (by understanding the colour-coding) from a selection he showed them. obviously this helped him compensate for the colour-blindness.

For those who haven't a clue what a resistor is or looks like, see the image and you'll notice the stripes representing different colours vary, thus indicating different properties of each resistor.

No I haven't a clue what those properties are..

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For all you nerds out there, this should keep you occupied for an hour or so working out what the resistance of each one is, you're welcome!

https://www.digikey.co.uk/en/resour...version-calculator-resistor-color-code-4-band
 
If it had different shorts it may have gotten away with it, the classic Denmark 1986 kit wouldn't have been so popular with the original shorts.
 
Watching the Derby highlights it’s Really hard to tell which team is which

if we’d played in the home shirt we’d just see the white backs of that shirt.

as much as I love the away kit, we will need a third kit for when we play teams in white
 

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I love our away kit but pink really isn’t suitable for us as an away kit. We definitely need a third, and we’ll have one.

Yellow and red PLEASE.
 
I'd be happy with eather of the black and gold or blue and green ideas that were posted a few weeks back, both look great.
 
e17blade said:
I have seen mention on a couple of threads about wayward passing against Newcastle and thought I’d ask a question...

Does anyone else struggle with identifying players when we play another team wearing stripes?

It’s a bit different for me because I’m colour blind (red-green colour blind to be precise). I can 100% definitely tell the difference between the red and black stripes when I look at the kits next to each other - and for that matter red and blue when we play Wednesday - but in a situation where things are moving quickly or when I just get a quick glance of something, I really struggle. A lot.

Being colour blind I obviously notice moments in life where I get things wrong due to colour, but I also notice moments when other people seem to as well. These moments usually occur within fast moving situations that call for instinctive reactions. My thinking is that all of you with properly working vision are switched off to this nuance as you take colour completely for granted and never ever consider making a mistake based on colour.

As an example of unthinking use of colour...

Me: which person is Bob?
My wife: he’s the guy in the red shirt
Me: I can’t tell which shirt is red
My wife: he is standing next to the woman in the green dress.

And she knows I’m colour blind!

I ran a football team for years and I got to choose the kit, so we played in BRIGHT yellow and I really think it helped. I also remember reading at the time an article stating that our classic 1990 away kit helped the players because you could instantly spot teammates even by the slightest glance out of the corner of your eye, and also that opponents could too, so they felt increasingly closed down.

It is only a small thing, but I think there is something in it. Marginal gains and all that.

Please note that I am NOT blaming this for our wayward passing against Newcastle - it’s the same for both teams after all. Having said that, we play a lot more quick ‘triangle passes’ than Newcastle so that would make us more susceptible to this issue. I don’t buy the shorts and socks difference thing helping either - it helps a bit on TV from a wider angle, but not close up at speed

It’s probably just me though!

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So it looks like when we play against Arsenal, and indeed other red teams, we'll be playing in dark Green.

Will this cause issues??

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mattbianco1 said:
So it looks like when we play against Arsenal, and indeed other red teams, we'll be playing in dark Green.

Will this cause issues??

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For other teams in red, it is not good for those that are colour blind. In fact Red vs Green is one of the worst combinations. However, against a light kit it is probably preferable.
 



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