Kevin McCabe

[Lower Drop Blade]

Is he going to re open the chippy and amusements?

Had many a teen school holiday in both of those.

Ahhhh Sheaf valley baths then chips from Friary.........Happy days

 

[Kenilworth]

Is he going to re open the chippy and amusements?

Had many a teen school holiday in both of those.

As a youf, I'd have had a fair few suppers from that chippy on returning from an away game, off the coach.

Used to play the submarine game in the arcade too.

 

[Blade56]

McCabe has made some (loads of) awful decision for the club.

But I Can't imagine he is anything other than out of pocket with the investment made into us tho.

Like many others I've made some bad decisions on paper buying season tickets year in year out and I'm out of pocket cause it's in my blood. My hope is one day my investment will pay off. Think McCabe is same, IMO he will do a better job that our snortbeast leaders in saving Sheffield from the shit hole it is.

It all hinges on HS2 route going through Sheffield centre.

 

[Stretch]

Sounds like a good project and it's about time more of the 1960s era architecture was wiped away to be honest. The long term damage done to this city by the council back then can't be overestimated. The amount of classic architecture that was demolished in the name of progress is heart breaking. See what our city used to look like in the 30s from the Town Hall down toward the train station in the pic above. The Germans bombed the Moor and a few other places but council bulldozers and wrecking balls destroyed most of these buildings, altering the City's character forever. Whilst its nice have Hallam Uni most of what has replaced those gorgeous old buildings over the years has been awful. Manchester, Leeds, Glasgow, Liverpool etc all cherished their industrial past and built the new stuff around it. We just flattened it to build roads.

Realise I have strayed off topic hugely here so apologies!

http://www.picturesheffield.com/fro...tails&keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s12343

 

[Yewsman]

McCabe has made some (loads of) awful decision for the club.

But I Can't imagine he is anything other than out of pocket with the investment made into us tho.

Yes there have been some awful decisions which, even if he did not take, Kevin McCabe must have sanctioned, namely a series of terrible managerial appointments starting with Robson and ending with Adkins. You could say Clough did OK with the two great cup runs but he was arrogant and his recruitment by and large was very poor and he never looked like achieving his prime target which was to get promotion. It's easy to be wise after the event but the fans (me included) certainly backed his decisions to appoint both Clough and Adkins and neither was a cheap option. Kevin has put loads of money into the club and must have been despondent as each time he thought he had got the right manager it all went wrong.

Hopefully he's feeling a lot better now! Surely CW is the man we've all been searching for since relegation from the PL? Thanks Kevin for propping up the club and sticking with it. Sadly on many occasions on this Forum you get slagged off by some very ignorant people.

UTB

 

[Jonboy60]

On the opposite side of the road at the bus stop there used to be a map of the city centre with buttons that when pressed illuminated particular landmarks. Sheffield's first step into technology.

I think Kev like the rest of us as kids messed about with that map, lighting up as many as possible.

It's now evolved into the Digital Campus some 200 yards away.

Just below on the side of the road, about this time of year "chestnuts roasting on an open fire". Loved em.

 

[Esablade]

'Upmarket shops/!?!?!

Sounds good, sure all the students will make good use of them ...

Let's just hope he doesn't take the loan out, that he's going to use to build it, through the club....

 

[JohnDenver]

When McCabe says he'll be putting escalators in to overcome the steepness of the terrain, I just think of the Hole in the Road. The future has already happened....

 

[snootyfenooty]

"Upmarket Shops"

This is Sheffield. There will be more people nicking stuff than buying.

Didn't think it would be long before someone mentioned the Hole in the Road. When the escalators did work, you could go and visit all the tramps dossing in the corners, do a bit of window shopping through all the plywood windows, do a bit of paddling in the sea of litter, look in awe at all the dead fish then get mugged on your way out. Best thing they ever did was fill the fucking thing in.

 

[Bladesway]

Well we auctioned off those elephant statues a few months ago. Nice to see Mr McCabe coming back with a huge white one.......

Yer mate Pinchy says it's a great plan and you stink.

 

[TonyAgana]

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Roughly the same view...

 

[BushBlade]

If Sheffield wants to keep with the times and move forward then it needs some decent shops and facilities. It's a big city that for at least 50 years had been run like a market town with a communist council that was intent on screwing every last penny out of any business stupid enough to be based there. I haven't lived there for twenty years so I don't know if that's changed but I do know Leeds benefitted hugely from being more business friendly.
If talented wealth creators are to move to the city, there has to be something to attract them, something better than concrete sheds housing low quality shops.
And it's common sense to develop around the transport hub.

 

[Sean Thornton]

When McCabe says he'll be putting escalators in to overcome the steepness of the terrain, I just think of the Hole in the Road. The future has already happened....

He probably means for all the lazy bone idle fucking students who can't work out what a pedestrian crossing is for or if they can, just ignore it. (Not the Chinese ones obviously).

 

[Stretch]

If Sheffield wants to keep with the times and move forward then it needs some decent shops and facilities. It's a big city that for at least 50 years had been run like a market town with a communist council that was intent on screwing every last penny out of any business stupid enough to be based there. I haven't lived there for twenty years so I don't know if that's changed but I do know Leeds benefitted hugely from being more business friendly.
If talented wealth creators are to move to the city, there has to be something to attract them, something better than concrete sheds housing low quality shops.
And it's common sense to develop around the transport hub.

Spot on. The ambition showed by Leeds council since the 1970s really does make our own council look comical. Having lived in Leeds for a few years in the late 90's / early 00s the difference between the two city centres felt like night and day and it still grates me how nothing has been done to address it. Long running sagas like the Retail Quarter just make us look like backwater bumpkins, we could blame the 2008 crash for a couple of years but all the other core cities have just got on with it since, whilst we keep floundering. I nearly fell off my chair when the Chinese investment in the City was announced, by our standards that really was a coup and I am still waiting for something to go badly wrong with that to be honest.

Sheffield is my home, I love it dearly as do my family. I can't ever envisage moving away from the place again, as I have done a few times in the past, but those who run the place really do need to get motoring now and show some ambition. The parallels with supporting United are almost frightening.

 

[Ecco1889]

There was the Classic, Fitzalan Square?

This was in 1982..the Indus could knock out a decent ruby...

 

[Stretch]

Here is another of Fitzalan Square dated before the one posted by Ecco1889 .

You can see the old Barclays Bank on the corner. Another beauty that was ripped down and replaced with a concrete box.

Shame

 

[Yewsman]

View attachment 20694 This was in 1982..the Indus could knock out a decent ruby...

Remember when the Classic was a News Theatre before it became "the Classic". There was a continuous program of news/short films etc and you went in at any time and sat through the program until it got back to the point in the program where you had come in - although you could stay in all day if you wanted. Think that was the early 60's?

 

[Yewsman]

View attachment 20694 This was in 1982..the Indus could knock out a decent ruby...

Had forgotten the old bank building. Beautiful. However did the planners give someone permission to knock that down?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Remember when the Classic was a News Theatre before it became "the Classic". There was a continuous program of news/short films etc and you went in at any time and sat through the program until it got back to the point in the program where you had come in - although you could stay in all day if you wanted. Think that was the early 60's?

Yes. They showed Superman shorts as well as other cartoons at weekend matinees.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Had forgotten the old bank building. Beautiful. However did the planners give someone permission to knock that down?

Widening of Commercial Street. Sadly.

 

[alcoblade]

Spot on. The ambition showed by Leeds council since the 1970s really does make our own council look comical. Having lived in Leeds for a few years in the late 90's / early 00s the difference between the two city centres felt like night and day and it still grates me how nothing has been done to address it. Long running sagas like the Retail Quarter just make us look like backwater bumpkins, we could blame the 2008 crash for a couple of years but all the other core cities have just got on with it since, whilst we keep floundering. I nearly fell off my chair when the Chinese investment in the City was announced, by our standards that really was a coup and I am still waiting for something to go badly wrong with that to be honest.

Sheffield is my home, I love it dearly as do my family. I can't ever envisage moving away from the place again, as I have done a few times in the past, but those who run the place really do need to get motoring now and show some ambition. The parallels with supporting United are almost frightening.

Councils don't build the buildings (with the odd minor exception), just approve / decline proposals.

Whilst I've little doubt SCC is useless, it's rather simplistic to blame it for all the ills. The Universities are expanding at a fast rate in the city centre, HSBC have signed up to SRQ phase 1, There's Chinatown, Meadowhall is a great success and expanding, as with the surrounding areas with Next and Ikea. There's so much going on right now;

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uRb9TqMJnGc6QLnsG1OdKm5cUzU&usp=sharing


They all work with the same council, and get things done.

Sheffield is almost unique in that the population mass of the city region is so far to the East, hence Meadowhall. They were powerless to prevent that in reality, as Paul Sykes would have built it a few miles away but outside Sheffield, yielding no benefit to the city at all. The retail spend at Meadowhall alone is in excess of Leeds city centre spend.

The real challenge is in getting retailers to want to come to the centre, something the council can only facilitate. Without doubt, they could have done a better job. At last, things are moving there, with Phase 1 of the SRQ underway.

UTB

 

[Boxer Blade]

Here is another of Fitzalan Square dated before the one posted by Ecco1889 .

You can see the old Barclays Bank on the corner. Another beauty that was ripped down and replaced with a concrete box.

Shame View attachment 20696

In the background the castle market another shitty 50s,60s building being knocked down, how many 50/60/70/80's "efforts" have been flattened, good riddance, street lights in fitzalan square look groovy though, wonder were they went.

 

[Boxer Blade]

Councils don't build the buildings (with the odd minor exception), just approve / decline proposals.

Whilst I've little doubt SCC is useless, it's rather simplistic to blame it for all the ills. The Universities are expanding at a fast rate in the city centre, HSBC have signed up to SRQ phase 1, There's Chinatown, Meadowhall is a great success and expanding, as with the surrounding areas with Next and Ikea. There's so much going on right now;

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uRb9TqMJnGc6QLnsG1OdKm5cUzU&usp=sharing


They all work with the same council, and get things done.

Sheffield is almost unique in that the population mass of the city region is so far to the East, hence Meadowhall. They were powerless to prevent that in reality, as Paul Sykes would have built it a few miles away but outside Sheffield, yielding no benefit to the city at all. The retail spend at Meadowhall alone is in excess of Leeds city centre spend.

The real challenge is in getting retailers to want to come to the centre, something the council can only facilitate. Without doubt, they could have done a better job. At last, things are moving there, with Phase 1 of the SRQ underway.

UTB

Is that right alco, Meadowhall spend is higher than leeds cenre?

 

[Stretch]

Councils don't build the buildings (with the odd minor exception), just approve / decline proposals.

Whilst I've little doubt SCC is useless, it's rather simplistic to blame it for all the ills. The Universities are expanding at a fast rate in the city centre, HSBC have signed up to SRQ phase 1, There's Chinatown, Meadowhall is a great success and expanding, as with the surrounding areas with Next and Ikea. They all work with the same council, and get things done.

Sheffield is almost unique in that the population mass of the city region is so far to the East, hence Meadowhall. They were powerless to prevent that in reality, as Paul Sykes would have built it a few miles away but outside Sheffield, yielding no benefit to the city at all. The retail spend at Meadowhall alone is in excess of Leeds city centre spend.

The real challenge is in getting retailers to want to come to the centre, something the council can only facilitate. Without doubt, they could have done a better job. At last, things are moving there, with Phase 1 of the SRQ underway.

UTB

Absolutely, and I don't. blame the council for everything wrong in Sheffield but they really haven't helped much at all over the years. They certainly had a policy to turn us into a traffic friendly city in the 60s & 70s, at the expense of countless old parts of the city.
I hope the RQ does finally get built but they didn't half put all their eggs in one basket many years ago. The Chinese money should help to build numerous projects going forward which is good and hopefully businesses will want to invest. You just get the feeling that they haven't been given much incentive for a long long time.

 

[alcoblade]

Is that right alco, Meadowhall spend is higher than leeds cenre?

Not quite, sorry. It's almost as large in itself, and once expanded no doubt will be.

I meant to say the combined total but couldn't go back and edit;

 

[Bert]

Bert spent this afternoon walking round the city centre, its on the up and quite vibrant. The only sad thing he saw was Len Badger limping down the Moor, looking very scruffy.

 

[BushBlade]

Councils don't build the buildings (with the odd minor exception), just approve / decline proposals.

Whilst I've little doubt SCC is useless, it's rather simplistic to blame it for all the ills. The Universities are expanding at a fast rate in the city centre, HSBC have signed up to SRQ phase 1, There's Chinatown, Meadowhall is a great success and expanding, as with the surrounding areas with Next and Ikea. There's so much going on right now;

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uRb9TqMJnGc6QLnsG1OdKm5cUzU&usp=sharing


They all work with the same council, and get things done.

Sheffield is almost unique in that the population mass of the city region is so far to the East, hence Meadowhall. They were powerless to prevent that in reality, as Paul Sykes would have built it a few miles away but outside Sheffield, yielding no benefit to the city at all. The retail spend at Meadowhall alone is in excess of Leeds city centre spend.

The real challenge is in getting retailers to want to come to the centre, something the council can only facilitate. Without doubt, they could have done a better job. At last, things are moving there, with Phase 1 of the SRQ underway.

UTB

In 2003 I did a review on a book about the regeneration of Manchester. Their council had been involved in public/private joint ventures for at least ten years then (maybe more, it was a long time ago and was my last book review, probably because of a 'humerous' comment I made about Mancunians). That's one of the reasons Manchester is so far ahead of Sheffield.

As I've said, it's twenty years since I lived in Sheffield and I genuinely don't know how proactive the council has been since then but when I lived there they seemed intent on being hostile towards anything they perceived as capitalist, when they weren't spending time pissing money away on Student Games and fucking up some good businesses whilst implementing the Supertram construction in the most disruptive way possible.
They're certainly not to blame for the collapse of the steel industry which decimated the city but they're at least partly culpable for what followed.

 

[Stretch]

Had forgotten the old bank building. Beautiful. However did the planners give someone permission to knock that down?

Widening of Commercial Street. Sadly.

How about this old girl as well. Destroyed (along with many others) to make way for the infamous Egg boxes. Fucking criminal.

 

[BushBlade]

Here is another of Fitzalan Square dated before the one posted by Ecco1889 .

You can see the old Barclays Bank on the corner. Another beauty that was ripped down and replaced with a concrete box.

Shame View attachment 20696

That must be early seventies at a guess, as it's the old style bus colours. I can barely remember them so I doubt I was much more than five or six when they changed.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

Good on McCabe, the shops in Sheffield are shit, in fact bar John Lewis are there any shops that sell designer stuff? I'd say not. Agree with many of the other threads on this post, it's a disgrace what the leaders of our great city have allowed it to become. Just like both football clubs, the city shows very little true ambition and is quite happy to punch well below its weight.