Karl Robinson

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Just noticed, Watford and their manager, Slavisa Jokanovic, have parted company, that's after he guided them to promotion to the Premiership.

I know we complain at our managerial turnover but Watford have changed managers five times in ten months, now that's spectacular by anyone's reckoning.
 
Pinchy said:
Why the hell would any sane person want a serial HOOFER with a dubious off the field past?

Let's try proper football, eh? Radical, I know.
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Because he's very successful. If we ended up where his teams end up, at least an extra 10,000 people would turn up to support it.


Anyway, back to being outplayed by Fleetwood at home, in the third division......

UTB
 
knockoffnigel said:
Haven't we tried that in principal with the likes of clough and wier who changed our style. Let's get someone who knows what it takes to win.
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Actually history proves conclusively that proper football teams win the prizes. Check it out.

"Shock News - Best teams win more often!"


I really, really despair.....
 
Pinchy said:
Actually history proves conclusively that proper football teams win the prizes. Check it out.

"Shock News - Best teams win more often!"


I really, really despair.....
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Has big Sam never won a promotion ?

Get a grip. He wouldn't dream of coming here and that tells you all you need to know
 
alcoblade said:
Because he's very successful. If we ended up where his teams end up, at least an extra 10,000 people would turn up to support it.


Anyway, back to being outplayed by Fleetwood at home, in the third division......

UTB
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Meanwhile, in the whole of the rest of the world, apart from S2....
 
knockoffnigel said:
Has big Sam never won a promotion ?

Get a grip. He wouldn't dream of coming here and that tells you all you need to know
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Come back when you've been watching football for over 50 years young man...

Don't start your 'get a grip' shit with me. You're a novice. Allardyce is a Hoofer, a Dinosaur and a Neanderthal. If that's your standard fine, but don't fucking lecture me.
 
alcoblade said:
Well, most of it is above us in the league so yes, let's talk about that.....

UTB
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You really can't wait to get a Hoofer in can you?...

How about Bladey Upanatem Morgs? We need to get in quick, though. Clubs all over the land are lining up for him.
 
Pinchy said:
Why the hell would any sane person want a serial HOOFER with a dubious off the field past?

Let's try proper football, eh? Radical, I know.
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Pinchy said:
Come back when you've been watching football for over 50 years young man...

Don't start your 'get a grip' shit with me. You're a novice. Allardyce is a Hoofer, a Dinosaur and a Neanderthal. If that's your standard fine, but don't fucking lecture me.
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But the club has stuck doggedly with your philosophy for 5 years Pinchy. And we are stuck in the lowest period in the club's history.

You have style stuck well over content. You are arguing about issues that don't concern us. I would love the club to be in the position where your standpoint is relevant.

Right now, we couldn't dream of attracting Allerdyce and he wouldn't dream of coming. That is the judgement the outside world, outside of S2, will make if your philosophy today.

UTB
 
Pinchy said:
You really can't wait to get a Hoofer in can you?...

How about Bladey Upanatem Morgs? We need to get in quick, though. Clubs all over the land are lining up for him.
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I want a winner. It's that simple.

UTB
 
Pinchy said:
Come back when you've been watching football for over 50 years young man...

Don't start your 'get a grip' shit with me. You're a novice. Allardyce is a Hoofer, a Dinosaur and a Neanderthal. If that's your standard fine, but don't fucking lecture me.
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You're no better than a lazy journo. Big Sam hoofer etc etc it's pathetic mate. Whatever your age.
 



knockoffnigel said:
You're no better than a lazy journo. Big Sam hoofer etc etc it's pathetic mate. Whatever your age.
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You're becoming an irritant. You clearly have no respect for experience. No-one has until they get it. I've played and seen a great deal more football than you. Allardyce is a Dinosaur, like Beck, Bassett, Blackwell and Others. I don't like him, his anti-football or his dubious past, but I dare say you know little or nothing about that. I don't want him or his like anywhere near my club, so please don't trouble to tell me he wouldn't come as though that's some bizarre Badge of Honour. I'm delighted, Fat Sam, that you wouldn't dream of being our manager. It spares me the nightmare scenario that you and your brown paper actually might.

I have got a grip and I've got an opinion, based on many years of playing and watching the game. I know which teams win the leagues and trophies. The ones who play the best football, and it ain't Hoofball.
I have tried to explain that simple proposition to you on a number of occasions now, but you choose dismissive flippancies rather than reason.

We can have a discussion, by all means, but don't persist with silly sideswipes like "get a grip" and "pathetic" or dialogue will cease.

As I say, you worship at the altar of non-football if you wish, it's your right, but you won't deny me the right to say it's been conclusively demonstrated to fail or that I don't rate your mate Allardyce or the shite he substitutes for football. You know, this nonsense only prevails in S2, don't you? Elsewhere it's universally acknowledged that the argument ended years ago. The referee stopped the fight to save Hoof from further punishment.
 
alcoblade said:
I want a winner. It's that simple.

UTB
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Oh dear. Rules old Upanatem (who should have been sacked by now) out then. In football, winners need a certain level of intelligence and an even greater degree of talent.

Sad to say, kicking it long, hard and high just isn't enough these days.
 
Pinchy said:
I know which teams win the leagues and trophies. The ones who play the best football, and it ain't Hoofball.
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What do you think is the reason they play the best football? Is it something to do with billionaire owners by any chance? Or is that just a coincidence?
 
LoughboroBlade said:
The all-important Kabba Vote. Morgs will have been seeking that - a massive blow for it to go Adkins's way.

Disappointing, Kyle Walker, Danny Webber, Neil Shipperley and Billy Sharp are all yet to express an opinion on this.
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Ah but what does Ade Akinbiyi have to say on the matter?
 
YES Blade said:
What do you think is the reason they play the best football? Is it something to do with billionaire owners by any chance? Or is that just a coincidence?
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Oh dear, I wish I hadn't taken the job of Education Officer on this forum.

In ANY league, the best football teams in THAT league (the ones who can best control and pass a football, not the ones who kick longest, hardest and highest) win the most games, the most points and ultimately the prizes. That is because good technique and talented feet (relative always to the particular standard you are playing at) will always defeat random punts in the general direction of the opposing goal.

There is no argument about attractive football v winning football. It's a fallacy put about by rubbish footballers and those who enjoy watching them. Good football and winning football are two sides of the same coin.

Only in the backwoods of S2 is this a remotely controversial proposition. It's long past time it wasn't. I've explained it dozens of times now and it's just not sinking in. I really wish I supported a different team; one with a slightly more sophisticated fanbase. Barnsley, perhaps.
 
WalthamstowBlade said:
No its not, its just a niche you've carved out for yourself saying it is.
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Really? There is a serious case being made across the land, despite the conclusive evidence of history, that kicking a ball as far and as high and as hard as you can is the way to achieve success in football?...

Good Pele, these S2 ex-pats get everywhere...

Quick, someone tell the European and South American elite... They've got it all wrong! Hand back those World and European Cups and countless domestic trophies you charlatans!
 
Pinchy said:
Really? There is a serious case being made across the land, despite the conclusive evidence of history, that kicking a ball as far and as high and as hard as you can is the way to achieve success in football?...

Good Pele, these S2 ex-pats get everywhere...

Quick, someone tell the European and South American elite... They've got it all wrong! Hand back those World and European Cups and countless domestic trophies you charlatans!
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4/10.
 
Allardyce's West Ham didn't play "hoof". I don't think anyone plays classic kick and rush nowadays. His teams mix it up a bit, with controlled play on the ground mixed in with some long, speculative passes down the channels.

It's not a question of "hoof" v "tippy tappy". Football has come a long way since Bassett's Wimbledon. But that doesn't mean that long balls for strikers to chase shouldn't be an aspect of the way some teams play - especially if they have pacy strikers and wingers. We even see the top PL teams switching their style of play on occasion. A good manager will cater his tactics for the opposition, and if he thinks defenders don't have the pace to match his strikers, may play more long balls. Those who insist we keep the ball on the ground all the time are living as much in the past as the "hoof merchants"
 
MightyBlades said:
Anyone on here, who thinks that Sheffield is still a major world city, hasn't done much travelling!

It hasn't been a a major city since its Victorian heyday, and has been in rapid decline since the 2nd World War.

I too am a Sheffielder, and still live in one of its better suburbs, but for the most part, it is a complete shit-hole! Once you get away from the South West suburbs, i.e. S10, S11, S17, then it really isn't very nice at all. As for the city centre, it's just an embarrassing legacy that has been left to us by successive Labour run councils, over the past 4 - 5 decades. A couple of months ago, I had to venture down there for the first time in years, and couldn't believe how tatty, run-down and squalid it felt. I really couldn't wait to get out of there! What a dump!

But, Sheffield folk insist on continuing to vote the Labour plonkers back in to local government, and so they deserve everything that they get in the end! And, as the years progress, Sheffield will continue to decline, and become even less important than it is now!

Yes, I love certain leafy areas, and the Peak District on our doorstep, truly is spectacular and world class!

But, visit the continent, or further afield, and you soon realise how insignificant and down-at-heels Sheffield really is! I've lived here for nearly 46 years, but, if I could afford to move abroad tomorrow, I would jump at the chance!
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Or you could move to Leeds :D
 



Dkc said:
No one claimed Sheffield was a 'major world city'. The phrase was 'major city'. It depends how you define 'major'. It's England's 5th largest city after London, Brum, Manc and Leeds, with an built up, urban area of about 720,000, that includes Rotherham. It's a similar size as many other European cities that we've all heard of like Strasbourg, Alicante, Stuttgart or Dusseldorf. No need to put the city down or big it up. It's a relatively big city. End of.
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We sneak into 4th ahead of Leeds if you use only the actual metropolitan population
 
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