CONFIRMED Kalvin Phillips

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Poor availability
Poor form across his last 3 moves
An area where we're comparatively well stocked
A poor, expensive use of limited resources
Not a match winner, after having lost a match winner
Expensive loan, no resale value
No long term planning for the squad
I did acknowledge he’s a risk and we’ll need to defy the odds, by which I meant getting him consistently fit, available and in form.

In terms of being a match winner, he’s clearly not Hamer’s replacement, he’s a different player for a different role. Peck isn’t a match winner by that definition either for example.

We also have no idea how expensive he is. What other choices do we have? Splash the cash?
 
Just maybe, he sees this as a chance to get back to the PL? If he shines until Christmas he’ll be snapped up. His first few appearances will reveal whether he’s committed or just stealing a wage and wants to cruise for another season. If the former, he’ll be great for us.
 
Don’t buy this cheap as chips deal spin, he’s on £150,000 a week at City and they’ll definitely want a sizeable contribution towards that. Otherwise what’s the point in them sanctioning the deal?
Maybe getting rid of the embarrassment of his ludicrous contract - out of sight , out of mind ?
I mean , how did you feel about Brewster - weren't you sick of the sight of him ?
Every time you remembered we had him - on the treatment table or on the turntables - you immediately thought of the £23m and 5 years on £30kpw which was helping to fuck up our finances.
 
To be fair, all those you listed got promoted from the Championship as Champions, not to mention Bamford who did it twice and Phillips who has the highest accolades of them all.

Wilder wanted a stinger mentality in the dressing room. That what he’s brought in there. Doherty also has won the Championship.

Not sure if anyone has remarked this that’s at least 5 players on the books now who have Championship winners medals. All brought here by Wilder.
You don’t get that sort of observation from the Star even when it’s behind a paywall 🤣

Seriously though, we lacked leadbership and experience and by this time we have 5 winners of the division in the ranks. That’s pretty smart to be fair, in my view.
 
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Could be an excellent signing this if we can get him anywhere near where he was 4/5 years ago.

Could be a real coup by the club bringing him in.
 
For what its worth I think that if this deal is a good for United and the player as the last one was its a no lose for us. He plays and is good we have a fantastic deal, he's doesn't play much or gets injured it costs next to nothing.

Really think there should be some credit to the club IF that's the case.
 
I don’t understand the negativity. He’s clearly a quality player having played for England less than 5 years ago. Just been reading the thread when we signed Bamford and lots of posts saying he was basically too old, didn’t score and was constantly injured.
 



Can't understand the negativity behind this signing.
It's a LOAN ffs. We've not splashed millions on him. Ok no doubt his wages will be high. Yes he's had a history of injuries.
But he's also a player of some quality. Something we need.
If he does get a long term injury......... he goes back to Citeh to recuperate and we don't pay anything while he does. ( not entirely sure it works like that but I would hope that's the case)
What have we got to lose? If he performs to his potential then great. If not he goes back
Get behind him, and let's see what happens.It's

Let's get Souttar in now!
The main issue is he's taking up a squad place and wages which could/should be used on someone that will actually play. Gus was always criticised for his fitness but he played more games last season than Philips has in 3 years. We were supposed to sign Philips weeks ago but he injured his thigh.

If he was the player Man City signed it's a no brainer but he'll be in and out the team all season when we need our strongest 11 out every week. Injury prone midfielders will constantly disrupt that as Wilder will shoehorn him in whenever he can.
 
So.. we've been after him all summer but finally sign him the week then season starts, meaning he's had no pre season, while Wilder continues to make a big song and dance about how important pre season is?

He won't be match fit for weeks meaning we'll basically a midfielder short for weeks. Wilders other target being Souttar will also fuck off to the Asia cup or whatever it is, and miss a bunch of games.

Two marquee signings, both have barely played in the last few years, both have really poor injury records and both will miss large parts of the season. Another masterclass from Wilder.
I said that about match fitness and some plank asked how I would know he isn't match fit. Ummm, I dunno, cos he hasnt played any matches recently maybe? 🤣🤣
 
I like the fact her continued to attend players meetings and support the lads after his injury rather than disappearing back to cities multimillionaires health club.

That’s the kind of character we need.

Fingers crossed it works out and he’s available for 40+ games 😬
 
I thought it was telling in his interview that the interviewer didn’t ask the obligatory question of how fit he is so that he can reply with he’s in the best shape of his career and he’s raring to go. For me that obviously means he’s going to need 3 weeks to get up to speed. We’ve got adequate depth to deal with that. If we’re patient with him in very confident we’ve got a proper player.
 
Im an owl mate you know that..but I'd rather have kept hamer than getting Phillips in..hamer is over weight but can lose that and Phillips is a crock now.

I am not sure taking advice of a Wednesday can regarding transfers can be taken seriously. When you need money you sell players, helps pay the bills. I know this is something alien to you.

On the other point, I would say bringing phillips in is pure lunacy on our part.
 

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