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Based on what? He’s way off championship standard, we are offering him a contract for his potential and in the hope he progresses in the next year or two. If he doesn’t progress and improve he will not be good enough for our first team.He should have been in the first team instead of Davies.
Not bothered
He's seemed a decent sort previously
Utd need to look after potential assets like this, and we fucked him around last season, as with Jebbo
If I was him I'd be hesitant with the contract too
I don’t know one way or the other. Nor does anyone else. It’s a mountain out of a molehill.Naive if you think it’s not deliberate
It isn’t unexpected that we will have an occasional impasse with these lads. I’m not aware there are other disgruntled players.Let's get this straight, the way we handle youth players is not always good. Ask Seriki or Broadbent. Imagine being forced to go to Belgium to languish in a reserve team? Just because the owner has both clubs.
I really don't care if a player likes the opposition scoring in a friendly where the result is meaningless. Who cares. Proper overreaction on here.
It concerns me that we've apparently got a few younger players who aren't happy. Given developing them is our master plan and players talk. It's hardly going to help us attract players. Especially given the fact we have unimpressive facilities and Academy.
I’d suspect we have more young players who are happy than not.Let's get this straight, the way we handle youth players is not always good. Ask Seriki or Broadbent. Imagine being forced to go to Belgium to languish in a reserve team? Just because the owner has both clubs.
I really don't care if a player likes the opposition scoring in a friendly where the result is meaningless. Who cares. Proper overreaction on here.
It concerns me that we've apparently got a few younger players who aren't happy. Given developing them is our master plan and players talk. It's hardly going to help us attract players. Especially given the fact we have unimpressive facilities and Academy.
Based on what? He's arguably as good as Gordon. Can see why he'd be pretty fucked off all things considered.Based on what? He’s way off championship standard, we are offering him a contract for his potential and in the hope he progresses in the next year or two. If he doesn’t progress and improve he will not be good enough for our first team.
One did this when I like a pic of some naked ladies having a special cuddle.If you're looking at Twitter on a phone or tablet it's perfectly possible to 'like' something by mistake as you scroll past it and not realise you've done it. Either way, I suspect it may be 'unliked' pretty quickly.
Recalling Jebbo from a fruitful loan spell with so little intention to properly involve him would count as fucked around in my book
It surely set back his development
Based on what? A player deemed good enough as Liverpool back up or a player deemed good enough to be sent out to non league? (with due respect to Southend)He should have been in the first team instead of Davies.
I agreed with recalling him at the timeHe was recalled because we had a mountain of injuries in his position, but even with that his performances on the pitch didn't warrant more time than he got - He was called back and ultimately didn't take his chance. That one isn't on the club or manager.
Edit: Just to be clear I'm not slating Jebbison either, it was obvious he was putting the effort in.
Who's said he's trying to hold the club to ransom?The option is available to any player coming to the end of their contract to fuck off if they're not happy. IMO a player in his position, with so little time in and around the first team squad shouldn't be trying to hold the club to ransom.
Me #47Who's said he's trying to hold the club to ransom?
Yeah based on what, I’m basing my view on him after watching him up at the academy, that he was also offered as a loan and as with all players offered scouts will watch them in the u23 games, it’s telling that only a club down the bottom of the conference said yeh we’ll take him. He’s a big tough lad who will tackle and head anything, not particularly fast, not very bright with his positional sense, often skinned in a one on one, and overall technically he could be better. But stick him in a lower league when it’s just purely defending and he will head everything and do ok. Stick him in the championship and he will be found out. That being said he could have improved a lot from being at Southend so I am not writing him off. As for him being as good as Gordon, well I don’t believe he is ready for sustained championship football also, but Gordon didn’t take his spot over there, Lopata probably would have gone to Portugal but it would have been instead of Gomes I reckon anyway. There is a reason we are trying to find another centre half, whether that be Clark or some young loanee (we were after Cresswell) it is because our staff don’t have faith with our young centre backs over a long period, yes they could step in for the odd game here and there and rise to the occasion, stick them in for a run of games like 6 on the trot and they get found out. Gordon, Lopata, Gomes, all need to be out on loan next season. My opinion which means diddly squat is right now none of them are good enough but they are at the age where literally in the space of a few months playing regularly they improve massively, they won’t get that with us so all need to go out on loan. Obviously Lopata can’t do that while this disagreement continues.Based on what? He's arguably as good as Gordon. Can see why he'd be pretty fucked off all things considered.
Hecky, Jack and Stu McCall watched them in training every day. Given that their jobs depend on their decisions, what have you seen that made you say that?He should have been in the first team instead of Davies.
Hecky said that the youngsters taken were to fill gaps in the squad.If Lopata’s not going out on loan then we should have taken him to Portugal. End of.
Hecky said that the youngsters taken were to fill gaps in the squad.
The trip must have cost the club a lot of money. Should we have taken Seriki, Belehouan, Brunt, Ayari, Hackford, Peck and Lankshear too?
He was one injury away from playing in just about every game.It was a good spell at Burton and if we didn't intend to use him quite a lot we should have kept him there and let him score 15+
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