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S64 Blade said:
He asked why we don’t need a midfielder. I’d said in my original post that I thought we reasonably well covered. Why not ask why I thought this rather than asking why we didn’t need a midfielder.

Not sure why my post has come in for some Spanish Inquisition critique. I’d given reasons.
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Well I'm not judging either of you, but it was probably some keyboard laziness from you both! No biggy.

I think we need a defensive midfielder and a striker most importantly.
 

brownblade said:
Well I'm not judging either of you, but it was probably some keyboard laziness from you both! No biggy.

I think we need a defensive midfielder and a striker most importantly.
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It’s not laziness, I’d given reasons. If more are wanted, ask what they are.
 
brownblade said:
Um, ok. What are you reasons for thinking we're covered?
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Because we have at least 9 players who can play there and only 3 places, none of which are going to be easy to get a game ahead of. Who’d sign knowing they’re behind Norwood, Berge, McAtee, Doyle, Fleck (Hecky seems to love him), as a minimum? As NDWALY noted we are “skint” (don’t quite agree with that), but the talent required to get ahead of those mentioned will be expensive.

Coulibaly is due to return in January, too.

Contrast this with LWB where we’ll hopefully have Lowe back soon, but he is injury prone. RND is out until February/March? time now, also. Stevens can’t run. Osborn and Robinson aren’t left wing backs as much as people might think otherwise. Their performances for us there have been woeful. It’d be much easier to get someone in on loan here who’s happier to sit on the bench.
 
S64 Blade said:
Because we have at least 9 players who can play there and only 3 places, none of which are going to be easy to get a game ahead of. Who’d sign knowing they’re behind Norwood, Berge, McAtee, Doyle, Fleck (Hecky seems to love him), as a minimum? As NDWALY noted we are “skint” (don’t quite agree with that), but the talent required to get ahead of those mentioned will be expensive.

Coulibaly is due to return in January, too.

Contrast this with LWB where we’ll hopefully have Lowe back soon, but he is injury prone. RND is out until February/March? time now, also. Stevens can’t run. Osborn and Robinson aren’t left wing backs as much as people might think otherwise. Their performances for us there have been woeful. It’d be much easier to get someone in on loan here who’s happier to sit on the bench.
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max lowe for all that hes been slated on this board is our best lwb now that rnd is out for another 3 months and i slightly disagree on osborn i quite like him at lwb enda is as good as finished with us we wont see him after this season a midfielder and striker is all we need in january 2 good signings and were nailed on for automatic imo
 
S64 Blade said:
Because we have at least 9 players who can play there and only 3 places, none of which are going to be easy to get a game ahead of. Who’d sign knowing they’re behind Norwood, Berge, McAtee, Doyle, Fleck (Hecky seems to love him), as a minimum? As NDWALY noted we are “skint” (don’t quite agree with that), but the talent required to get ahead of those mentioned will be expensive.

Coulibaly is due to return in January, too.

Contrast this with LWB where we’ll hopefully have Lowe back soon, but he is injury prone. RND is out until February/March? time now, also. Stevens can’t run. Osborn and Robinson aren’t left wing backs as much as people might think otherwise. Their performances for us there have been woeful. It’d be much easier to get someone in on loan here who’s happier to sit on the bench.
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Good detail sir👍😃

I personally think in our current position we can upgrade on 2022 Fleck. I also don't think McAtee is reliable in the CM position. I hope Coulibaly turns up and does well, but it's also perfectly likely he doesn't even play for us (or plays poorly).

I'll understand if we don't get a CM, for your reasons, as well as financial reasons. But with 23 matches to play, a good CM could make a huge difference. We're not going to get 23 x 90 minutes out of Berge and Doyle.

Also we need a defensively minded CM.
 
S64 Blade said:
It’s not laziness, I’d given reasons. If more are wanted, ask what they are.
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N'Diayewillalwaysloveyou said:
Ok.How don't we need a midfielder then?
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N'Diayewillalwaysloveyou said:
You've explained why we need a new LWB (even though we're skint and could play 5 there) but failed to explain why we don't need a midfielder?
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S64 Blade said:
If he’s asking that, then why not ask that? Not rely on another forum member to second guess what he might be asking?

Not sure why my post has come in for some Spanish Inquisition critique.
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So I haven't asked a couple of times why a midfielder isn't needed? What's the difference to what I have said to what brownblade has?

I'm not the brightest spark youll meet and dyslexic but I don't get how my posts were different?
 
N'Diayewillalwaysloveyou said:
So I haven't asked a couple of times why a midfielder isn't needed? What's the difference to what I have said to what brownblade has?

I'm not the brightest spark youll meet and dyslexic but I don't get how my posts were different?
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I think it's just a forum/text message thing isn't it. Sometimes just misunderstandings that don't mean anything.
 
I think we're in this limbo of a buy out position no ins but maybe outs ... if princey is in a good selling position he might want a quick buck by selling assets prior to a sale of the club ... its just a bad time for this speculation ... hey ho what do I know ?!
 
247Blade said:
I think we're in this limbo of a buy out position no ins but maybe outs ... if princey is in a good selling position he might want a quick buck by selling assets prior to a sale of the club ... its just a bad time for this speculation ... hey ho what do I know ?!
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Short answer is M&A transactions don't work like that. At the point of signing there will have been an 'interim conduct of business' put in place by the parties which essentially requires agreement by both parties on any decisions that fall outside set parameters/thresholds - selling of key assets would require such an agreement. That will be in place until the deal either completes or the long-stop-date is passed and the agreement expires
 
brownblade said:
Good detail sir👍😃

I personally think in our current position we can upgrade on 2022 Fleck. I also don't think McAtee is reliable in the CM position. I hope Coulibaly turns up and does well, but it's also perfectly likely he doesn't even play for us (or plays poorly).

I'll understand if we don't get a CM, for your reasons, as well as financial reasons. But with 23 matches to play, a good CM could make a huge difference. We're not going to get 23 x 90 minutes out of Berge and Doyle.

Also we need a defensively minded CM.
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If you're looking at 2 players per position then when you look at some of the fitness of players this season then you can understand bit of nervousness.

Up front in a three or one behind a two, you've kind of got Berge and McAtee who are both probably better on the right of a forward thinking three with the latter cutting in on his left. You've got N'Diaye, and Khadra then being the one to give him a breather and McBurnie and Billy.

You can more or less forget about relying on Brewster now as our fate could be largely sealed by his return date. Given both McBurnie and Sharp have missed games through injury then you'd think step forward Jebbo. But he also had injuries and still has limited experience and you wonder if him playing top of League One week in week out might be better for him. So someone there might not be bad. Maybe an all-rounder. Perhaps someone like Perez at Leicester. He hardly gets league minutes for them and he's too good for that. His contract expires in June. He's had 1 start and 4 sub appearances in the league for them in 15 matches. I'd imagine it's doubtful they will extend his deal so could be a loan to perm possibility?

In midfield, you have Norwood. Then aside him you have Doyle who has had time out through injury, or Osborn, who also had time out through injury and is currently injured. You have Fleck with no return date and you have Coulibaly who has yet to kick a ball in ernest. Arblaster is another but is like to see him play week in week out for someone like I would Jebbo. Perhaps someone like Barlaser as has been mention on here, could be an option. He leaves for nothing in the summer. So offering something for him might be a temptation for the Millers. You could even add Wiles in there depending on the type we wanted.

In terms of out of favour considerations from above, Palace might be a reasonable stop - Jairo Riedewald and Will Hughes both not appearing much - 26 and 27, both with a year to run at the end of the season.

I think a bit of a swap out of youth and swap in of experience might just let folk breathe a little more easily.
 
if berge and nidaye stay a defensive midfielder and most importantly another striker even if their only loans and might as well send khadra back to pay for one of those loans hecky obviously isnt gonna use him
 
Why get your hopes up. Nobody will be joining unless there's a big sale. Our squad is enormous
 

CF (Surridge?)
CM
LWB (Ritchie/Lewis/Williams?)

Regardless of the ownership situation we have to find a way to strengthen with the right quality to capitalise on the superb and rare position we now find ourselves in - throwing it away from here, in this league, would be criminal

Tell you what..... I wouldn't mind Gyokeres up top. Thought he was brilliant and I'm sure our defenders would say the same
 
Don't trust any of them

Admittedly Lowe was a big improvement yesterday. RND is also capable but don't know when he'll be fit

Just feel a high calibre, reliable and consistent type there would make a big difference. If one is available, try to get him. If not, go with what we have
 
Hamandcheese said:
CF (Surridge?)
CM
LWB (Ritchie/Lewis/Williams?)

Regardless of the ownership situation we have to find a way to strengthen with the right quality to capitalise on the superb and rare position we now find ourselves in - throwing it away from here, in this league, would be criminal

Tell you what..... I wouldn't mind Gyokeres up top. Thought he was brilliant and I'm sure our defenders would say the same
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yeah definetly need another striker in gyokeres and nidaye are the top 2 strikers in the championship for me and has to be a priority imo
 
If i agreed to buy a car and it had a nice set of alloys and a bespoke full stainless exhaust system fitted,,,,,,and while i was arranging finance for the car (took a few days) the owner took the alloys off and fitted steel wheels with plastic trims and the bespoke full stainless exhaust system was replaced with a second hand mild steel one...........would i still go ahead and buy the car.............NO.

Why would a prospective football club buyer accept "prized assetts" being sold before the sale was completed. ?
 
Hamandcheese said:
CF (Surridge?)
CM
LWB (Ritchie/Lewis/Williams?)

Regardless of the ownership situation we have to find a way to strengthen with the right quality to capitalise on the superb and rare position we now find ourselves in - throwing it away from here, in this league, would be criminal

Tell you what..... I wouldn't mind Gyokeres up top. Thought he was brilliant and I'm sure our defenders would say the same
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When Fulham tried to buy him, they were quoted £25 million.
 
Gyokeres would be my choice, but it is unlikely to happen. They'd probably want £10m and he's probably not even for sale. Coventry have a realistic chance of winning the playoffs.

A young prem striker loan is more likely.
 
S26Blade said:
Gyokeres would be my choice, but it is unlikely to happen. They'd probably want £10m and he's probably not even for sale. Coventry have a realistic chance of winning the playoffs.

A young prem striker loan is more likely.
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Young prem striker is the opposite of what we need
 
N'Diayewillalwaysloveyou said:
The Blackpool striker?
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Yates?
He would be the type of signing I would be looking at in the summer (depending on what league we are in) unless his contract situation was to our advantage.

For Jan as mentioned the requirements are different. An experienced striker who we can utilize to see out games and generally be a nuisance for defenders. Think the 2023 version of Hanson
 
ChipButtyBlade said:
If i agreed to buy a car and it had a nice set of alloys and a bespoke full stainless exhaust system fitted,,,,,,and while i was arranging finance for the car (took a few days) the owner took the alloys off and fitted steel wheels with plastic trims and the bespoke full stainless exhaust system was replaced with a second hand mild steel one...........would i still go ahead and buy the car.............NO.

Why would a prospective football club buyer accept "prized assetts" being sold before the sale was completed. ?
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If discussions are at an advanced stage I would doubt any incoming owner would.want one of his prized assets sold.

Would there be a contract stating that any assets would have to be held for a set period of time?
 

Kev Gee said:
Yates?
He would be the type of signing I would be looking at in the summer (depending on what league we are in) unless his contract situation was to our advantage.

For Jan as mentioned the requirements are different. An experienced striker who we can utilize to see out games and generally be a nuisance for defenders. Think the 2023 version of Hanson
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Not sure money is available for experienced strikers is there? Loans are more likely.
 
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