JLT - a poll out of curiosity...

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Is JLT capable enough in a back four?

  • Yes - he should keep his place alongside Anel

    Votes: 82 29.5%
  • No - he's only good enough as part of a central trio

    Votes: 83 29.9%
  • No - he's not even good enough as part of a central trio

    Votes: 113 40.6%

  • Total voters
    278

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Discussion in the Rob Holding thread as to whether Jack is good enough to be part of a central duo at this level.

The claim from one poster is that 80% of our fanbase doesn't think he is. The counter claim from another is that the 80% should open their eyes.

Let's put it to a poll.
 

The option to choose that "Jack is good enough to be part of a central duo at this level" is not covered off in your poll, yet you say that's what the debate is about?
 
I am happy to have him as cover for a better pair (like we had before HS was injured) as long as this "cover" period is only a few games.
Seen on other occasions as the number of games increases the more mistakes creep in.

Not sure any of the categories covers this so I'm out.
 
Robbo is good enough at this level as a backup player. Should be an option for that ;)
 
The option to choose that "Jack is good enough to be part of a central duo at this level" is not covered off in your poll, yet you say that's what the debate is about?
You don't think the first option implicitly covers that? Unless you're saying Anel should be dropped?
 
He is a good solid player to have around the club to come in as a back up, or to provide a definitely option from the bench as he won’t ever let us down, and professional enough to come and do a job when required but he isn’t a first team starter for me
 
Robinson is at best a mid-level Championship player. Too prone to mistakes which lead to goals being conceded, and potentially matches being lost.

Had a few comments on here say that his pass in the build up to Brewster's goal at Millwall is demonstration of his qualities. To which I would point out that he needed to have no opponent within 20 yards of him to pull that pass off. Anyone unsure should give back and watch those highlights.

As the role of a centre back in the modern game has evolved, he has been found out as incapable of keeping up. He panics under pressure more than any player I've ever seen. Which typically results in him desperately sending the ball back to Cooper, as he's left himself nowhere else to go. Other occasions, he ends up losing possession with a poor pass, or worst case scenario, makes a critical mistake, such as he did away to Sunderland.

I'm sure Robinson is a decent lad, but continuing to play him, is effectively accepting the significant chance, that he makes a match-altering error in any particular game. Which feels pretty negligent to me.
 

You don't think the first option implicitly covers that? Unless you're saying Anel should be dropped?
No, especially when you had the exact wording to hand that was better 😉

One is about him being good enough at this level. Another is him being in one specific team
 
He’s like Osborn but a centre half. Good to have as backup but the more he starts the lower down the league we’ll finish.

And the fact that Osborn was arguably the best player on the park on Saturday says enough.....
 
He needs upgrading on. He’s limited but throws in the occasional hard tackle which everyone spaffs over. Dalek when in position, turning circle of the titanic. However. If Holding is the other option. I’d stick to what we know.
 
He’s like Osborn but a centre half. Good to have as backup but the more he starts the lower down the league we’ll finish.
Was about to say something similar! If he went to Derby, Preston, Mittwoch - you could see him playing another 3 or 4 years at this level.

I don't buy the rhetoric that he's good for a backup. He needs a run of games. It's when he's coming in for the odd game here or there that he starts dropping bollocks...

However, as a team looking to finish top 2, he's way short of the mark. Dont see him anywhere near Burnley or Leeds starting XI...
 
Was about to say something similar! If he went to Derby, Preston, Mittwoch - you could see him playing another 3 or 4 years at this level.

I don't buy the rhetoric that he's good for a backup. He needs a run of games. It's when he's coming in for the odd game here or there that he starts dropping bollocks...

However, as a team looking to finish top 2, he's way short of the mark. Dont see him anywhere near Burnley or Leeds starting XI...

Which explains why nobody is coming in for him with 6 months left on his contract.

Nobody below us can get him, nobody around us want him, and nobody above us would even think about it.
 
He's done well for us in the past, albeit with some bad errors. Should we play him now? Probably. Should we look to improve on him? Of course, otherwise what's the point?

We should always look to improve our squad, regardless of who it is we seek to replace.
 
He played alot when we made playoffs and lost v forest , he played alot when we were automatically promoted the following year , he's played alot this year and we are currently in an automatic spot .... A great squad member

Which says a lot about the depth the of our squad....JLT should never be anything more than back-up.
 

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