CONFIRMED Jesurun Rak-Sakyi joins on season long loan

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Jesurun Rak-Sakyi may return to Crystal Palace for treatment on his hamstring injury. The Blades' injury list is forcing them to be active in the market and Peterborough United winger Kwame Poku is a player who is admired at Bramall Lane.

Where have you read this?
Poku is out until March. JRS is supposed to be back in a couple of weeks so that could be a concerning development..

*edit - just seen the source is Mike McGrath, which is usually pretty solid.

We should go all out for Louie Barry if this is the case.
This has been an absolute nightmare Christmas period.
 

Fuck me, do you want to play rush goalie too??
Only if Jags is willing to come back from retirement.

Seriously though, not sure what the issue is with a back four with Souza protecting and Hamer right in the middle of the park with JRS, O'Hare, and Brookes feeding a striker. It's just who goes up top. That said, I've been more impressed with Davies than I was expecting.
 
Don't care. Sign a replacement who has more than 1 good game in 5

Ask Leicester about McAteer while we're talking with them about Souttar and Choudhury

Just leaves us with even more signings to have to make / integrate and no idea where the financial risk sits with JRS as it was an expensive loan deal.
Hopefully our obligations to Palace & Leicester (Souttar) end with them returning.

We now need as a minimum
1 x CB, 1 x CM, 1 x LW, 1 x RW.
And I'd add 1 x RB, 1 x CF.

The one plus is we will have 4/5 loan spots available to us. We need to make sure we use all of them.
 
Apart from the fact we’d have to replace him with another body I wouldn’t be overly concerned with this. He’s decent very sporadically and has had a lot more poor games than good ones.
 
Palace fan here again.

I think its clear that we aren't particularly impressed by JRS recent run of form either.

We've all seen the flashes of potential, when he is on form he is a serious player that terrifies defenders.

One very important thing to remember is this though - JRS joined you on a long, painful path back from long-term injury. He had barely played any competitive football for a year. This spell of tough games in quick succession is probably the hardest he's ever had to push his injury-prone body in his whole career so far, and he looks almost broken. I'm a little scared he will break down completely and get injured again.

I hope he comes through this difficult period and emerges as a tougher, more consistent player, but the Jury is out right now isn't it.

On a more positive note, I've been enjoying following Sheffield United this season, and my bet for Sheffield United to get promoted is looking like a serious runner :)
We have a fan of another club, his parent club admittedly, telling everyone that JRS has had a bad injury on his hamstring and that we need to be careful with him as he’s looking “almost broken”, which let’s be honest, he has been badly out of form and looks knackered yet we’ve had a player in Brooks on the bench all along, very capable and now he’s out injured unexplicably? We need to sort this shit out when we quite clearly could’ve saved him from overplaying, I think other clubs will also be taking note of this.
 
Apart from the fact we’d have to replace him with another body I wouldn’t be overly concerned with this. He’s decent very sporadically and has had a lot more poor games than good ones.
He’s obviously played too many games, in such a short space of time. We’ve had to wait until he’s injured just to get Brooks on the pitch.
 
He’s obviously played too many games, in such a short space of time. We’ve had to wait until he’s injured just to get Brooks on the pitch.
A lot was made of the mismanagement of players and their subsequent injuries under Hecky. This season we’ve brought in Souttar, JRS, Moore and Campbell and so far 3 of the 4 have been injured for what could be classed as extended periods of time.

Either we’re really poor at doing fitness tests for incoming players, we’re really poor at managing their fitness once they arrive or we’ve terrible luck.
 
A lot was made of the mismanagement of players and their subsequent injuries under Hecky. This season we’ve brought in Souttar, JRS, Moore and Campbell and so far 3 of the 4 have been injured for what could be classed as extended periods of time.

Either we’re really poor at doing fitness tests for incoming players, we’re really poor at managing their fitness once they arrive or we’ve terrible luck.
We are definitely having a lot of bad luck but when you have a very capable player on the bench who hasn’t been getting barely any minutes then some questions should be getting raised by certain quarters within the ranks.
 
Only if he put Brooke’s back to left MF with JRS on the right. So who would we drop? If BBD is coming in plus Hamer and COH I can’t see a place for him. Heard he’s already getting unsettled and wanting away. He will not have gone unnoticed to scouts, he’s already looking like an accomplished player withe a big future. Whereas CP have sent JRS to us to make a decision on him like others have ie Coffie and a woodburn, both duds eventually
This has become a tiring point over the last few days, sorry Blade56

It's not and i repeat, its NOT about dropping players to make way. It's about using the entire squad. Starters and finishers.

Those days of a first 11 are pretty much gone at this level and above, possibly in League one as well.

The introduction of extended 'additional time' at the end of each half as well as 5 subs has had an impact to an already tightly packed season with league and cup games and summer break getting, seemingly shorter. International players travelling further afield and being managed.

You've seen this season right from the off that players in positions which require more sprints - the fullbacks, wingbacks, wingers and high energy players in the side like box to box midfielders or strikers that play on the shoulders and have multiple sprints per half. These players are getting 60-70 mins most games. The data for their strain and recovery is being monitored and they're not playing full games.

This has been especially critical in clusters of 'satdi-tuesdi' games or high volume periods like xmas and new year.

Look at this recent period, 3 games so far, of the 4 games in 9 day block. We have played every 3 days. That's why we've switched players around - 60 mins one game, 30 mins the next. One game you're a starter, the next a finisher.

So as i said, we can and SHOULD be managing both. Just because a player is not owned by us doesn't mean that we don't prioritise him. If our own players are good enough, they will get game time.
 
Just leaves us with even more signings to have to make / integrate and no idea where the financial risk sits with JRS as it was an expensive loan deal.
Hopefully our obligations to Palace & Leicester (Souttar) end with them returning.

We now need as a minimum
1 x CB, 1 x CM, 1 x LW, 1 x RW.
And I'd add 1 x RB, 1 x CF.

The one plus is we will have 4/5 loan spots available to us. We need to make sure we use all of them.
Why do we need a CM?

If we do get a first choice LW, then we absolutely have to find a spot for Hamer.

Unless that’s going to be on the other side instead then he will be competing for a spot in the middle.

Rak-Sakyi has really gone off the boil after a really decent start.

I’d possibly like to see something like this:

Davies Souza
O’Hare Hamer Brereton-Diaz

As a midfield five.

It gives scope for Peck on the bench and JRS or his replacement as well as Brooks as potential back ups too, retaining the option that a JRS equivalent starts and one of Davies or O’Hare doesn’t.

I wonder if there is a way we can work Brewster into a deal with Hecky for their lad? We can’t rely on him at all. If you had Jacobson, Moore, Campbell and one more you’d feel you have a bit of a chance especially as BBD can also play up front if needed.
 
This has become a tiring point over the last few days, sorry Blade56

It's not and i repeat, its NOT about dropping players to make way. It's about using the entire squad. Starters and finishers.

Those days of a first 11 are pretty much gone at this level and above, possibly in League one as well.

The introduction of extended 'additional time' at the end of each half as well as 5 subs has had an impact to an already tightly packed season with league and cup games and summer break getting, seemingly shorter. International players travelling further afield and being managed.

You've seen this season right from the off that players in positions which require more sprints - the fullbacks, wingbacks, wingers and high energy players in the side like box to box midfielders or strikers that play on the shoulders and have multiple sprints per half. These players are getting 60-70 mins most games. The data for their strain and recovery is being monitored and they're not playing full games.

This has been especially critical in clusters of 'satdi-tuesdi' games or high volume periods like xmas and new year.

Look at this recent period, 3 games so far, of the 4 games in 9 day block. We have played every 3 days. That's why we've switched players around - 60 mins one game, 30 mins the next. One game you're a starter, the next a finisher.

So as i said, we can and SHOULD be managing both. Just because a player is not owned by us doesn't mean that we don't prioritise him. If our own players are good enough, they will get game time.
I’ve never disputed that rotation is part of the modern game but 2 points.

Our squad of experienced players is so small we are having to rotate to many youngsters in to the match day squad and that’s having an impact with injuries on them.

However, JRS (and here we might disagree) is not performing for whatever reason while Brooke’s has not been given a start ahead of him or been used until last 2 games to replace him. Then, when Brooke’s has been used he has arguably been our stand out player.

We have a problem with the size of the squad and potentially medical / coaching issues with the ongoing injuries (as you say fitness is key with the demands of the modern day). The other issue is when we play a breakthrough player and they show potential most of them don’t want to sit on the bench and want away when they’re not getting game time.

Back to topic.

If we continue to develop JRS and don’t give Brooke’s game time (and imo he’s earned it) he will / does want away. We’ve seen it with Jebbo, Osula, Lankshear, et al. whereas given the chance ArBlaster seemed happy to stay and develop because he was getting game time. Would that be the case if we had benched him and got Louis Barry or Tyler Morton in to help us and develop someone’s else’s player.

And if we do successfully develop others youngsters we don’t get a sniff at keeping them eg McAtee and Doyle.

My original point stands (tiring as others may find it ;)) that at the risk of developing an underperforming JRS I feel we are at risk of losing one of if not the most exciting youngster I can remember since seeing Keith Edward’s break into the first team. My view and many might not agree.

This conundrum is so important right now. We stand at a crossroads with new owners in a strong league position on the pitch. The task for the new owners is to undertake a paradigm shift in strategy to create a successful team on the pitch that can attract good foreign and home grown players whilst holding on to what we’ve got.

Be that wages, opportunity etc we’ve got to retain the good young uns not see them have a few good games and move to a big club as bench warmers. The likes of Bournemouth, Brighton manage it with low crowds and we need that ballsy leadership on and off the pitch to do the same.

Unfortunately, I don’t feel the new owners have the will or experience to achieve that big paradigm shift. It’s already feeling like tying Wilder in to a long term contract and shopping at Aldi for the foreseeable future is their strategy. I feel they are in it to take the quickest route to promotion and to make a profit.

I still hope beyond hope I’m wrong on that bigger picture but my original point is, for now, we need to hang onto Brooke’s ahead of developing and/or testing a Crystal Palace player we will never have as our player.

🥱

PS weeeeerz 50/50 AB/JRS scarfs?
 

I’ve never disputed that rotation is part of the modern game but 2 points.

Our squad of experienced players is so small we are having to rotate to many youngsters in to the match day squad and that’s having an impact with injuries on them.

However, JRS (and here we might disagree) is not performing for whatever reason while Brooke’s has not been given a start ahead of him or been used until last 2 games to replace him. Then, when Brooke’s has been used he has arguably been our stand out player.

We have a problem with the size of the squad and potentially medical / coaching issues with the ongoing injuries (as you say fitness is key with the demands of the modern day). The other issue is when we play a breakthrough player and they show potential most of them don’t want to sit on the bench and want away when they’re not getting game time.

Back to topic.

If we continue to develop JRS and don’t give Brooke’s game time (and imo he’s earned it) he will / does want away. We’ve seen it with Jebbo, Osula, Lankshear, et al. whereas given the chance ArBlaster seemed happy to stay and develop because he was getting game time. Would that be the case if we had benched him and got Louis Barry or Tyler Morton in to help us and develop someone’s else’s player.

And if we do successfully develop others youngsters we don’t get a sniff at keeping them eg McAtee and Doyle.

My original point stands (tiring as others may find it ;)) that at the risk of developing an underperforming JRS I feel we are at risk of losing one of if not the most exciting youngster I can remember since seeing Keith Edward’s break into the first team. My view and many might not agree.

This conundrum is so important right now. We stand at a crossroads with new owners in a strong league position on the pitch. The task for the new owners is to undertake a paradigm shift in strategy to create a successful team on the pitch that can attract good foreign and home grown players whilst holding on to what we’ve got.

Be that wages, opportunity etc we’ve got to retain the good young uns not see them have a few good games and move to a big club as bench warmers. The likes of Bournemouth, Brighton manage it with low crowds and we need that ballsy leadership on and off the pitch to do the same.

Unfortunately, I don’t feel the new owners have the will or experience to achieve that big paradigm shift. It’s already feeling like tying Wilder in to a long term contract and shopping at Aldi for the foreseeable future is their strategy. I feel they are in it to take the quickest route to promotion and to make a profit.

I still hope beyond hope I’m wrong on that bigger picture but my original point is, for now, we need to hang onto Brooke’s ahead of developing and/or testing a Crystal Palace player we will never have as our player.

🥱

PS weeeeerz 50/50 AB/JRS scarfs?
Players will develop if they are good enough, as you state with Jebbo and Osula, they've generated fees because of their development.

I don't see the point about developing other teams players being anything but a positive, JRS has contributed heavily to getting us to top of the league. He kept Brooks out. Not sure who Brooke's is though.

Rumours about Brooks wanting away probably need taking with a pinch of salt, perhaps he needed to knuckle down and earn his place.

Loan players like JRS, opens access to players we'd normally not be able to afford. McAtee and Doyle both contributed to the development of the team to get promoted. Positive.
 
Just seen the news about JRS and that he might be having to go back to Palace. Wilder mentioned a few weeks back in an interview, that the medical team say that when a player gets an injury they have to try and play through it. That was about Souza at the time, we now have JRS out, not to mention Arblaster was kept on the pitch.

In this the same medical team when Hecky was manager? Maybe we need to be looking to upgrade on these.
 
Think people are forgetting how good JRS is/was

Single handedly won us matches on his day one of the best wingers in the league

Maybe he became ineffective because he’s a 20 year old been ran into the ground due to an injury crisis

I like brooks but he is nowhere near JRS at the moment and people saying he is have the blinkers on
 
Just leaves us with even more signings to have to make / integrate and no idea where the financial risk sits with JRS as it was an expensive loan deal.
Hopefully our obligations to Palace & Leicester (Souttar) end with them returning.

We now need as a minimum
1 x CB, 1 x CM, 1 x LW, 1 x RW.
And I'd add 1 x RB, 1 x CF.

The one plus is we will have 4/5 loan spots available to us. We need to make sure we use all of them.
With players returning from injury and new arrivals CW indicated that there would be 8 to add to the current match day squad.Should be sufficient if they all stay free of injury.
 
I’ve never disputed that rotation is part of the modern game but 2 points.

Our squad of experienced players is so small we are having to rotate to many youngsters in to the match day squad and that’s having an impact with injuries on them.

However, JRS (and here we might disagree) is not performing for whatever reason while Brooke’s has not been given a start ahead of him or been used until last 2 games to replace him. Then, when Brooke’s has been used he has arguably been our stand out player.

We have a problem with the size of the squad and potentially medical / coaching issues with the ongoing injuries (as you say fitness is key with the demands of the modern day). The other issue is when we play a breakthrough player and they show potential most of them don’t want to sit on the bench and want away when they’re not getting game time.

Back to topic.

If we continue to develop JRS and don’t give Brooke’s game time (and imo he’s earned it) he will / does want away. We’ve seen it with Jebbo, Osula, Lankshear, et al. whereas given the chance ArBlaster seemed happy to stay and develop because he was getting game time. Would that be the case if we had benched him and got Louis Barry or Tyler Morton in to help us and develop someone’s else’s player.

And if we do successfully develop others youngsters we don’t get a sniff at keeping them eg McAtee and Doyle.

My original point stands (tiring as others may find it ;)) that at the risk of developing an underperforming JRS I feel we are at risk of losing one of if not the most exciting youngster I can remember since seeing Keith Edward’s break into the first team. My view and many might not agree.

This conundrum is so important right now. We stand at a crossroads with new owners in a strong league position on the pitch. The task for the new owners is to undertake a paradigm shift in strategy to create a successful team on the pitch that can attract good foreign and home grown players whilst holding on to what we’ve got.

Be that wages, opportunity etc we’ve got to retain the good young uns not see them have a few good games and move to a big club as bench warmers. The likes of Bournemouth, Brighton manage it with low crowds and we need that ballsy leadership on and off the pitch to do the same.

Unfortunately, I don’t feel the new owners have the will or experience to achieve that big paradigm shift. It’s already feeling like tying Wilder in to a long term contract and shopping at Aldi for the foreseeable future is their strategy. I feel they are in it to take the quickest route to promotion and to make a profit.

I still hope beyond hope I’m wrong on that bigger picture but my original point is, for now, we need to hang onto Brooke’s ahead of developing and/or testing a Crystal Palace player we will never have as our player.

🥱

PS weeeeerz 50/50 AB/JRS scarfs?
Blade56 I agree with the point you are making and I think we are in a similar position with Seriki (when fit) and Gilchrist. The latter has done very well but when Seriki is back do we want to develop a Chelsea player or one of our own? At the minute these are moot points as we are going with whoever is fit and that is the point of having a squad
 
"England Under-21 winger Jesurun Rak-Sakyi could return to Crystal Palace from his loan at Sheffield United for treatment on a hamstring injury".

I would be more worried if the word could was is.
 

Seems like this 'Norwich reset' is turning out to be bollocks then.
Is this just Wilder spin to keep things positive whilst we're unsuccessfully treading water?

It's just Wilder keeping Norwich guessing Shirley. Also, presumably wouldn't want to definitively say how long players are injured for as it will inflate the costs of replacements.
 

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