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McGrath said:
Why do people get upset by articles like that?

The Star is independent, and might try to be 'thought provoking' at times. People seem to think it can only report and say nice things about United, or things that they want to hear. That's not going to happen. If you don't like what's written, don't read it, it's a free country after all.
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I disagree with all of that James.
 
Whether the Star has a bias or not, historic or present I think we just make ourselves look like we have a chip on our shoulder saying the Star is biased. Personally, I've not got the impression that it is bias but I have read articles from Blades fans on why they think the star is biased. We hear similar accusations said about Radio Sheffield or Radio pig as some call it. Again, I'd rather not hear any United fans say this unless its definitely true and I don't think it is. Quite frankly, I'd rather just laugh off stuff like this.
 
McGrath said:
Why do people get upset by articles like that?

The Star is independent, and might try to be 'thought provoking' at times. People seem to think it can only report and say nice things about United, or things that they want to hear. That's not going to happen. If you don't like what's written, don't read it, it's a free country after all.
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Simple James,
Thought provoking it may be. Balanced it isn't. Why not make a debate of it and publish our supporters viewpoint? Not for the first time your newspaper publishes only half a story. What about Cloughs' treatment of Collins? Like him or not there was a story there and questions to be asked but of course your cosy little position was far more important. It's what suits you or the editors best. Not what makes good journalism. Your plummeting sales will vouch for that.
 
spongebobblade said:
Simple James,
Thought provoking it may be. Balanced it isn't. Why not make a debate of it and publish our supporters viewpoint? Not for the first time your newspaper publishes only half a story.
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Not that I'm defending the standard (or lack thereof) of journalism at The Star - I find most of James Shields' articles on United to be painfully dull, totally uninsightful, often reworded and rehashed versions of something that was reported only the day (or hours) before, and suspect they could have been easily written by any one of us given the amount of "inside knowledge" that appears to be sadly lacking by a professional sports journo - but they have in fact now posted a rebuttal by a Blade:

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foot...y-from-a-sheffield-united-supporter-1-8295934
 
Radio_Blade said:
Can you honestly take anyone seriously whose name is an Anagram of 'DJ is Shemale'?
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If you replace one S with an E in his name then you could also have 'hides eel jam' which to me just stands as even more reason not to trust the man.
 
carthesis said:
Not that I'm defending the standard (or lack thereof) of journalism at The Star - I find most of James Shields' articles on United to be painfully dull, totally uninsightful, often reworded and rehashed versions of something that was reported only the day (or hours) before, and suspect they could have been easily written by any one of us given the amount of "inside knowledge" that appears to be sadly lacking by a professional sports journo - but they have in fact now posted a rebuttal by a Blade:

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foot...y-from-a-sheffield-united-supporter-1-8295934
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Credit where it's due. Better late than never
 
spongebobblade said:
Simple James,
Thought provoking it may be. Balanced it isn't. Why not make a debate of it and publish our supporters viewpoint? Not for the first time your newspaper publishes only half a story. What about Cloughs' treatment of Collins? Like him or not there was a story there and questions to be asked but of course your cosy little position was far more important. It's what suits you or the editors best. Not what makes good journalism. Your plummeting sales will vouch for that.
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And you care because.....?

Like I say, don't like it, don't read it and if the paper goes bust because many people don't read it for the same reason, then that's the papers fault anyway, it is after all a business and not a public service.
 
"James"

"Yes Mr editor"

"I need a 400 word article to go in the paper tomorrow.. in fact I need two 400 word articles"

"But I'm not due to go up to the training ground for the gaffers press conference about the game until tomorrow morning.. there's absolutely nothing to report until I've seen him..."

"Just re-word some of the previous stuff from yesterday.."

James sits down at his desk and head butts it.......

That's probably what happens a lot of the time
 
carthesis said:
Not that I'm defending the standard (or lack thereof) of journalism at The Star - I find most of James Shields' articles on United to be painfully dull, totally uninsightful, often reworded and rehashed versions of something that was reported only the day (or hours) before, and suspect they could have been easily written by any one of us given the amount of "inside knowledge" that appears to be sadly lacking by a professional sports journo - but they have in fact now posted a rebuttal by a Blade:

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foot...y-from-a-sheffield-united-supporter-1-8295934
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Good reply that. I think there needed to be a debate on what happened, and allowing a supporter from each side to have their say was an ok way to do it, much better than the ugly shit slinging that's taken place on facebook.
 

McGrath said:
And you care because.....?

Like I say, don't like it, don't read it and if the paper goes bust because many people don't read it for the same reason, then that's the papers fault anyway, it is after all a business and not a public service.
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Then surely as a business it's in the papers interest to be accurate, interesting and balanced?
I care because there have been times when it has unnecessarily been critical or shown my team in a bad light.
And you care because??? ..... they pay your wages?
 
Pierre's PC said:
Gary made some good points and the Journalists weren't too happy with a fair amount of the comments he made but, stop with the damn air bunnies Gary!
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He did air quote rather a lot which was annoying. His point a about some in depth analyst still stands and it is something The Star should be looking at doing rather than just posting random open letters from fans.

Fair enough they finally published a response to the Coventry letter but the point is the Coventry open letter should not have been published in the first place. I am surprised people wonder why some of us think their is a bias at The Star.
 
spongebobblade said:
Think it's more to do with The Stir again rather than what's put in the letter. People often accuse it of being bias and highlight it when it happens to make there point
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I don't read it so I don't know if it's biased or not but if I were running The Star I would be asking questions about why the paper was perceived as being biased. It's a pretty big fan base to piss off.

Or maybe it's just that people can't get their heads round the fact that it's a local paper and local papers are, in general, a bit shit when compared with nationals.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
The Coventry Telegraph has covered the response (which is excellent incidentally). I assume the journalist Chris Bickley is now being asked why that newspaper has covered a letter from a Sheffield United fan that wasn't even addressed to their newspaper...

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...news/45-watch-farce-sheffield-united-12341160
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Interesting to see it being used as part of a well written article and not just plonked on to their website on its own.
 
Hackblade said:
Local journalists do a great job for very little pay in very difficult circumstances. If they do go under it will be a sad day.
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On The Star's patch in the last 30 yrs: Orgreave cover up, Hillsborough cover up, Rotherham grooming scandal and cover up. Their journalists, with their local knowledge and connections, somehow missed the lot and preferred to cover lasses who can't go to school because they have leopard skin hairdos and cheerleading for every fantasy scale model the city councillors posed behind. The football stuff it a sideshow- it's a pile of stinking shit that deserves to be flushed away
 
SSB said:
Like everyone else I was disappointed by the pro-SISU chants from the Sheffield fans. While the televised game provided an unmissable opportunity to draw attention to CCFC's dire predicament and our grievances, we have to accept that any disruption to games is going to have an impact on the opposition team and its supporters. There's no dispute that the various actions by City fans were very successful in highlighting how we feel, however it's also important to look at it from Sheffield fans' perspective. It's obvious from this response and other comments in the media that they thought that the actions were unfairly targeting their players. Even though we might disagree, apparently that was their perception and we need to view their responses in the light of that and their frustrations of being stuck in this division for even longer than us. This was important game for them and it's worth thinking about how we'd have felt if we'd been in their position.
To be honest, I think the response above from the Sheffield fan is reasoned and sensible. He makes a number of valid points that ought to be considered if we are hoping to get opposition fans on our side with future protests.
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A very reasonable response from one of the Cov fans, that highlights exactly why we were all so hacked off with the entire affair.
 
dublin 10 blade said:
Mine was from the top of Granville road and city road , down all three side rows leading onto Granville , up city road to the three tower blocks and all way up to city road cemetery , Sunday morning was by far the worst with all them big bastard heavy editions two trips then as bag was too heavy .
£2 a week , oh and had a job with milkman on a satdi in morning as well .
All them flats in top end of Norfolk park were a bastard .
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Mine was around the bottom of Woodseats from Banhams ,once got flashed by a bloke round the back of the Abbey Glen and just laughed at him ,so he walked off wi't face on ,proper dirty old mans raincoat too. Reported it back at Banhams and they just sent Mrs Banham round with me next day ,didn't get no counselling ,newspaper articles ,compo or owt.
The end of the Star was a cert once they banned wrapping chips in newspaper.
 
BushBlade said:
I don't read it so I don't know if it's biased or not but if I were running The Star I would be asking questions about why the paper was perceived as being biased. It's a pretty big fan base to piss off.

Or maybe it's just that people can't get their heads round the fact that it's a local paper and local papers are, in general, a bit shit when compared with nationals.
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The Stir needs to realise that "Perception is Reality". Mo matter what the Stir believes is the reality, the effects of the perception is what is affecting sales and confidence in the paper
 
sitwell said:
Mine was around the bottom of Woodseats from Banhams ,once got flashed by a bloke round the back of the Abbey Glen and just laughed at him ,so he walked off wi't face on ,proper dirty old mans raincoat too. Reported it back at Banhams and they just sent Mrs Banham round with me next day ,didn't get no counselling ,newspaper articles ,compo or owt.
The end of the Star was a cert once they banned wrapping chips in newspaper.
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Even more so to take James Shield with a pinch of salt . :D

UTB
 

I don't understand why everyone's hating on Shield and The Star in general. In my view both do a decent job with extremely limited resources. JS has stuck it out for a long time now, and I doubt he gets paid more than half the posters on here

We should be glad that a struggling local paper still dedicates a journo to United full time. Wonder if Wednesday fans feel the same about whoever covers them?
 
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