Outgoing? Jack O'Connell

[10-0 win]

This will probably mean Reading will end up with Sam Baldock as part of the deal.

spot on

 

[Rodley]

So what happens when the interested club offers more? And then what does JOC (and his agent) think about it when he realises he could be on treble what he's getting here?

Fucking hell, it's like groundhog day every fucking season at this club.

If it’s hypothetical you can still moan about it.

#bladestransferwindowrules

 

[LJBlade]

So what happens when the interested club offers more? And then what does JOC (and his agent) think about it when he realises he could be on treble what he's getting here?

Fucking hell, it's like groundhog day every fucking season at this club.

Is it? Are we the only club who gets offers for our players?

 

[LJBlade]

Wilder just let slip on the manager’s special football heaven that we’ve turned down £5.5m for him

To be fair, it was quite widely reported

 

[Blade56]

Wilder just let slip on the manager’s special football heaven that we’ve turned down £5.5m for him

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[snootyfenooty]

If it’s hypothetical you can still moan about it.

#bladestransferwindowrules

Hypothetical? It's a well worn blueprint.

Another club interested in one of our players
SUFC say he's not leaving
Interested club ups the offer (by not very much)
SUFC accepts offer
SUFC say it was "crazy money" and couldn't stand in the players way (whose head was turned by his agent)
SUFC say money will be used to fund incoming players
Incoming players don't transpire
Money to be used to cover operating costs instead
Fans congratulate the board for saving the club from bankruptcy
All hail McCabe

 

[LJBlade]

Hypothetical? It's a well worn blueprint.

Another club interested in one of our players
SUFC say he's not leaving
Interested club ups the offer (by not very much)
SUFC accepts offer
SUFC say it was "crazy money" and couldn't stand in the players way (whose head was turned by his agent)
SUFC say money will be used to fund incoming players
Incoming players don't transpire
Money to be used to cover operating costs instead
Fans congratulate the board for saving the club from bankruptcy
All hail McCabe

In the case of Jack O’Connell has this actually happened? If not then it’s hypothetical. The bid we turned down from Brighton was a few weeks ago now

 

[Rodley]

In the case of Jack O’Connell has this actually happened? If not then it’s hypothetical. The bid we turned down from Brighton was a few weeks ago now

If you’re moaning about us rejecting offers, I’d suggest any pleasure you derive watching SUFC has sufficiently diminished that its time for a change. It’s completely absurd.

 

[snootyfenooty]

In the case of Jack O’Connell has this actually happened? If not then it’s hypothetical. The bid we turned down from Brighton was a few weeks ago now

Sometimes I wonder if the "LJ" in front of your user name is a pseudonym for "esa". However, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and continue the discussion. There's nothing hypothetical in my suggestion, it's a well proven fact, i.e., once United receive a sizeable bid the player is sold. The only problem is that United's definition of "sizeable" is that it's usually about 5 years behind the times.

 

[LJBlade]

Sometimes I wonder if the "LJ" in front of your user name is a pseudonym for "esa". However, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and continue the discussion. There's nothing hypothetical in my suggestion, it's a well proven fact, i.e., once United receive a sizeable bid the player is sold. The only problem is that United's definition of "sizeable" is that it's usually about 5 years behind the times.

Have we agreed to sell Jack O’Connell?

 

[snootyfenooty]

Have we agreed to sell Jack O’Connell?

Not yet. Another £1m will do the trick.

 

[LJBlade]

Not yet. Another £1m will do the trick.

Completely hypothetical.

“Once United receive a sizeable bid the player is sold”*

*except for when they aren’t

 

[bladesmanluke]

Old news

 

[snootyfenooty]

Completely hypothetical.

“Once United receive a sizeable bid the player is sold”*

*except for when they aren’t

Yep, definitely smell a rat here. Notice you didn't deny the "esa" connection!

 

[LJBlade]

Yep, definitely smell a rat here. Notice you didn't deny the "esa" connection!

I notice you’ve completely changed topic. I’ve also noticed that you do that a lot when you realise you don’t have an argument.

Anyway, I didn’t feel the need the comment on the ‘esa’ thing. You seem to be doing a good impression of him yourself

 

[snootyfenooty]

I notice you’ve completely changed topic. I’ve also noticed that you do that a lot when you realise you don’t have an argument.

Anyway, I didn’t feel the need the comment on the ‘esa’ thing. You seem to be doing a good impression of him yourself

Almost tempted to give you a like for that! Bugger it I will.

Anyway, I provided the argument in the posts preceding this, it's pretty clear. Lets see eh?

 

[LJBlade]

Almost tempted to give you a like for that! Bugger it I will.

Anyway, I provided the argument in the posts preceding this, it's pretty clear. Lets see eh?

Oh you provided an argument alright but it wasn’t exactly difficult to argue against it.

We sell all of our players at the first ‘sizeable’ offer, except for when we don’t.

 

[wizadry]

Oh you provided an argument alright but it wasn’t exactly difficult to argue against it.

We sell all of our players at the first ‘sizeable’ offer, except for when we don’t.

I also think the point he’s making LJB is that we sell for a sizeable offer but £5.5m for JOC isn’t a sizeable offer for someone of his talents. Don’t be surprised if JOC plays international football at some point.

I suppose what it boils down to is what does the person themselves discussing said player and offer view as a sizeable offer, imho this offer is derisory for a player of his talents in this day and age.

 

[Danetheblade]

I also think the point he’s making LJB is that we sell for a sizeable offer but £5.5m for JOC isn’t a sizeable offer for someone of his talents. Don’t be surprised if JOC plays international football at some point.

I suppose what it boils down to is what does the person themselves discussing said player and offer view as a sizeable offer, imho this offer is derisory for a player of his talents in this day and age.

5.5 million for a player of o'connells ability is a desperation bid. He's worth three times that without a doubt.. and wilder and co know this.

 

[wizadry]

5.5 million for a player of o'connells ability is a desperation bid. He's worth three times that without a doubt.. and wilder and co know this.

They can’t be that desperate if they’re only bidding that then?

 

[Danetheblade]

They can’t be that desperate if they’re only bidding that then?

Falls into the age old thing. "United accept the first offer" let's be brutally honest. If we have that opinion 90 percent of the time. I'm pretty sure other clubs will think the same.

 

[Dronfield Blade]

A thread a few weeks back where many dismissed this info as #FakeNews (see image)

This has been developing for a while now and honestly im worried we will lose him. Would be a shame.

Side note: sunjihi talks bollocks. Regarding “Its close” the club never even got into any sort of discussion regarding personal terms. So fuck knows what constitutes as “close” nowadays. Have to laugh.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Oh you provided an argument alright but it wasn’t exactly difficult to argue against it.

We sell all of our players at the first ‘sizeable’ offer, except for when we don’t.

It's not difficult to argue against in your case if you are as obdurate as you are. I'm not being hypothetical in this case by the way, its there for all to see.

 

[wizadry]

Falls into the age old thing. "United accept the first offer" let's be brutally honest. If we have that opinion 90 percent of the time. I'm pretty sure other clubs will think the same.

I sort of agreed with your initial post, my point was how can it be a desperate bid when it’s seen by myself, you and many others as a very low offer in the first place?

To me, it’s more of an offer to chuck the feelers out and as you’ve quite rightly pointed out it was point blank rejected. They know they’ll have to up the offer big time or fuck off basically.

 

[Danetheblade]

I sort of agreed with your initial post, my point was how can it be a desperate bid when it’s seen by myself, you and many others as a very low offer in the first place?

To me, it’s more of an offer to chuck the feelers out and as you’ve quite rightly pointed out it was point blank rejected. They know they’ll have to up the offer big time or fuck off basically.

One of those bids that "right we need a CB as cheap as possible, reading have dismissed our bid, so let's try scrimp and offer united (who have a history of accepting pityful offers) 5.5 million. They're sure to accept"

 

[LJBlade]

I also think the point he’s making LJB is that we sell for a sizeable offer but £5.5m for JOC isn’t a sizeable offer for someone of his talents. Don’t be surprised if JOC plays international football at some point.

I suppose what it boils down to is what does the person themselves discussing said player and offer view as a sizeable offer, imho this offer is derisory for a player of his talents in this day and age.

He said that the club’s opinion of a ‘sizeable’ offer is behind the times and that an extra £1m (£6.5m) would see him sold. If that was the case we wouldn’t have just flatly refused their offer, we would have negotiated.

Personally, as good as JOC is, I’d be extremely surprised if he ever played International football.

A lot of our fans talk about JOC being worth £15m+ whilst some also didn’t want us to spend £4m on Egan. Like every set of fans in the country we value our players a lot higher than fans of other clubs would.

 

[LJBlade]

It's not difficult to argue against in your case if you are as obdurate as you are. I'm not being hypothetical in this case by the way, its there for all to see.

Obdurate? That’s hilarious.

Ok, I’ll change my opinion. We sell every player as soon as an offer comes in. Wilder was lying when he said we’d turned an offer down, this has in fact never happened. Does that make you feel better?

 

[BigBed]

How do you think Wendy value Jordan Rhodes????

In chocolate maybe??

 

[LJBlade]

Falls into the age old thing. "United accept the first offer" let's be brutally honest. If we have that opinion 90 percent of the time. I'm pretty sure other clubs will think the same.

That’s a complete myth though, just because you don’t hear about the offers we turn down doesn’t mean they don’t happen. It’s somethig that the glass half empty element of this board would lead you to believe.

 

[wizadry]

One of those bids that "right we need a CB as cheap as possible, reading have dismissed our bid, so let's try scrimp and offer united (who have a history of accepting pityful offers) 5.5 million. They're sure to accept"

Yes but we haven’t accepted the first offer and as you have already pointed out, Wilder will have told them in no uncertain terms to fuck off and come back when you put some proper money on the table, even then it might not be enough?