Is Ndiaye as good as TC?

[shorehamview]

this is why i clarified on a purely technical level rather than achievements, let’s say it was TC vs Ndiaye on the training ground, who’d come out on top?

It would be very close, but TC would just edge it, mainly because he’s 72 now.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Whenever I see old clips I just think the game is so much quicker than before. Obviously better pitches and different rules/reffing standards help as well as all the sports science and data used today compared to the past.

Yeah much quicker, but the defender’s back then were much more willing to cause you physical harm.

 

[jono_t2000]

Love TC but let's face it. Defenders and keepers back then were heavyset big buggers who's job was to smash the ball or anything moving as hard as they could.

In terms of their mobility, defenders back then are nowhere near as athletic or mobile as they are now and turned slower than the titanic.

I doubt TC in this day and age would have been able to get anywhere close to what Ndiaye does.

Just my opinion of course.

 

[Wilderat Heart]

This is nonsense of course, you cannot compare different eras accurately. Also they are/were completely different players. Berge is a closer comparison in terms of style. I laugh at fans who say older footballers would not have coped with modern football. Why not? they would have had far better training facilities, better diet, more scientific coaches. Perhaps fairer to say what would Ndaiye do back then on pitches that these days would get games called off. When tackling was ridiculously more aggressive. When a defender was allowed one early that these days would be an immediate red card. Watch highlight reels of George Best on youtube watch the attempts to tackle him, look at the pitches. He was literally gliding across surfaces you could plant potatoes in. Currie was the quarterback modern teams dream of, put Currie in a team with Ndaiye see how many goals he scores.

 

[iBlade.]

The two players mentioned are incomparable, Currie couldnt play the game Ndiaye does and visa versa. Both players have/had very different traits. That apart Ndiaye is a country mile from reaching the esteem that TC did.

 

[jim2007]

I have no idea really. Memory is a funny thing, we remember the very best and the very worst, but the average gets binned to save our fleshy gigabytes. However the question has caused a notion I have now and again to reach the surface.

How would today’s Man City go on if they had to turn up and play on a February 1978 Baseball Ground pitch?

And how would 1978’s Liverpool go on if they had to turn up and play on one of today’s Desso billiard tables?

Again, no idea. But i’d love to see it.

Any comparison between TC and Iliman or Sander has to take in to account the conditions they had/have to play in.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Truth is, all of this is speculative at best.

I suppose it matters to those who prefer to give this type of thing significance, but the whole comparison thing only matters as a bit of fun, something to pass the time considering, to wonder if a player with so much to learn might somehow stand alongside a player, often from an era 40-60 years before the younger player was born.

By all means enjoy, but as we all seem to have opinions that are cast in stone, then whether player A compares to player B will remain little more than a past-time for moments of idle curiosity.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Seems a bit nonsensical to compare one of the best players in the top flight against
someone that until recently couldn't even guarantee a start in the SU team playing at Championship level.

Assume the OP means "could N'Diaye become as good as Currie".

At the moment he's miles behind Curries level but I suppose if he joined a top 6 club and became a regular Champions League player for several years
then he could be a contender.

However....I think he's good enough to have.a career in the PL but really doubt he could become one of the greats.
World level players are normally spotted and playing at a high level from a very young age...someone like Jude Bellingham.

 

[VM198]

One for the 70s Blades who saw TC in the flesh …

Who is better? TC in his pomp or Ndiaye so far this season?

Are they even comparable or completely different players?

Just to clarify before anyone points out, we’re talking on a purely technical basis, not in terms of stature or success as there’s no comparison, but maybe one day we will see Ndiaye eclipse TC’s achievements

No.

 

[metalblade]

Currie never had to work hard like Ndiaye he was much more laid back and had all the time in the world. Currie could hit a pass 60yards and drop it at Woodwards feet when Woody was running full pelt. Currie had it all his only real fault was some days he just couldn't be arsed. Ndiaye plays much faster has faster feet yet Currie could seemingly stroll about and leave a defender on their arse. A tragedy that Currie and England didn't get to the World cups in 74 and 78. Ndiaye has a long way to go yet.

 

[Freddie]

Let's see if ndiaye fucks off to Leeds at the first chance before we put him in that bracket

The first chance????

 

[Nick Jansky]

If Berge could play the forty yard pass like Currie, then we would have a comparison. Even Norwood doesn’t have the passing range of Currie.

He does, very similar. Currie was like Berge would be if he had Norwood’s passing ability.

 

[Sheffsteel]

He does, very similar. Currie was like Berge would be if he had Norwood’s passing ability.

Agree...thats a decent description.
Those 2 but Currie also had that swagger, showmanship and confidence of an Mbappe.

 

[Speedracer]

Not really fair to Ndiaye to compare him to such a legend, & anyway they are totally different styles & play in different positions. I think Iliman will prove to be a top player if he continues to improve at the rate he is doing, but he is no Tony Currie. Mind you very few are, a true one off.

 

[iBlade.]

A tragedy that Currie and England didn't get to the World cups in 74 and 78.

The man responsible for ending Curries England career was Don Revie

 

[Sheffsteel]

The man responsible for ending Curries England career was Don Revie

Actually regards the England World Cup teams I remember Bobby Charlton
and several others saying the 1966 team won the World Cup but the 1970 team was better.

Also heard plenty of experts saying the England 1974 was also as good as the 1970 team.
Remember Poland qualified instead of England but lets not forget Poland went on to have a fantastic world cup
winning all their group matches and losing 1-0 in the semi final to eventual champions and host nation West Germany.
Poland beat Brazil in the 3rd/ 4th place play-off.

England (with Currie playing) totally outclassed Poland in the Wembley qualification match when their goalie kept the score down.
They were one of the very best teams in the world, so it shows how good that England circa 1974 team was.

 

[bornablade]

Look at those attendances of over 40,000 in the 1970's.

TC added thousands to the gate. I spoke to some old Chesterfield fans some years ago who hated the Blades but went down to the Lane just to watch TC.

Ndiaye still has some way to go.

 

[Tony Currie]

 

[originaltrueblade]

Love Nidaye but comparing him to TC your having a laugh

 

[shorehamview]

The man responsible for ending Curries England career was Don Revie

Why have several England manager had a distrust of “flair” players?
Matt Le Tissier - 8 caps, Rodney Marsh - 9 caps, TC - 17 caps. I can’t understand why players of that quality seem to be disliked by England managers.

 

[Geordie Blade]

The man responsible for ending Curries England career was Don Revie

And the man who ended Currie's club career was Glyn Hodges.

 

[RammyBlade]

TC was a very different player in that he was able to fend off players with his strength but what made him a genius was his passing - short/long medium he was able to put a pass on a sixpence for Woody or anyone else.
Illiman has more technical skill in my opinion and his running ability is brilliant but overall I would have a young TC in my side as opposed to Illiman................... mind you think what it would have been like to have both !!!

 

[RammyBlade]

Why have several England manager had a distrust of “flair” players?
Matt Le Tissier - 8 caps, Rodney Marsh - 9 caps, TC - 17 caps. I can’t understand why players of that quality seem to be disliked by England managers.

It was mainly Alf Ramsey who excluded these sensational players - so what did he ever win ?

 

[Speedracer]

It was mainly Alf Ramsey who excluded these sensational players - so what did he ever win ?

Well you say that but Alf made TC his captain for the under 23 side & spoke very highly of him & clearly saw him as an essential player for England, but when we failed to reach the finals in 1974 he was sacked & the managers since then didn't have the same opinion as Alf. Idiots.

 

[Silent Blade]

It was mainly Alf Ramsey who excluded these sensational players - so what did he ever win ?

Alf was a big fan of TC, picked him regularly from summer 1973 until TC got a knee injury in March 1974 that required an op. He would have missed 1974 WC had we qualified

 

[Newbury Blade]

Actually regards the England World Cup teams I remember Bobby Charlton
and several others saying the 1966 team won the World Cup but the 1970 team was better.

Also heard plenty of experts saying the England 1974 was also as good as the 1970 team.
Remember Poland qualified instead of England but lets not forget Poland went on to have a fantastic world cup
winning all their group matches and losing 1-0 in the semi final to eventual champions and host nation West Germany.
Poland beat Brazil in the 3rd/ 4th place play-off.

England (with Currie playing) totally outclassed Poland in the Wembley qualification match when their goalie kept the score down.
They were one of the very best teams in the world, so it shows how good that England circa 1974 team was.

That brings back memories … I interviewed TC the day after that game (for Darts, the university newspaper). He wasn’t in the best of spirits, understandably, although he still signed a lovely colour photograph of himself, which I treasure to this day.

 

[bonobo]

Currie didn't have the pace or defensive attributes of Ndiaye or Berge. They may both end up better goalscorers. Currie was exceptionally skilful and could beat a man in different ways, more variety and ball skill involved than Berge. There were a few around who could do the same, some better at the time, maybe Ndiaye will be one day. But it was his ability to strike the ball which was so unique. I honestly can't think of any better, maybe Beckham, but Currie could use both feet, maybe Haynes, but I only have a few memories. Perhaps Hoddle was a better all round passer, because he had all those flicks and chips, but he couldn't hit it with the control and flight of Currie over a distance and didn't have his power.

 

[Silent Blade]

Currie didn't have the pace or defensive attributes of Ndiaye or Berge.

TC was a strong tackler

 

[JOEYDEE]

TC 10/10
IN 8/10