Is it time up for Billy?

[Tyler Durden]

Yes, Billy is utterly to blame for Basham and CCV being shit at football.

You're fucking pathetic, the lot of you.

 

[Jon Bon II]

Yes, Billy is utterly to blame for Basham and CCV being shit at football.

You're fucking pathetic, the lot of you.

 

[knowsnowt]

Last 2 posts belong in the "Gaylish" thread.

 

[Davalon]

I’ve said all along Sharp is just a finisher/ goal poacher.
He has little to his game apart from putting away chances
BUT he needs his colleagues to set him up, he doesn’t have any tricks or pace and can’t create his own chances.
The problem is he’s finding it harder to find space so hardly touches the ball.

However he has a touch of the Keith Edwards about him.
I.e.Can be playing poorly, hardly touching the ball or contributing
Then he’ll get 1 chance and score 1 goal, so Sharp is still worth persevering with.

Clarke is showing us that even if he doesn’t score he’s always causing trouble getting involved making a contribution.

Agree every word.

 

[spongebobblade]

Billy still has what it takes to score goals in this division so to say he’s past it is utterly ridiculous. The fact remains though that since the Burton game Billy’s form has dipped alarmingly, not just in his scoring but his all round play. It happens to all goalscorers at some point. True we aren’t exactly playing to his strengths but he needs to adapt and quickly. If the games weren’t coming thick and fast I’d be tempted to take him out of the firing line but at the same time I wouldn’t put it past him to stick a couple past the deluded. Long term though I still back Billy to do the business

 

[Sheff de party]

Arguably like Basham. He’s a committed, dedicated and admirable pro whose desire can never realistically be questioned.

But While ever they are considered our best players in a position, we will be limited. If they are squad players, then we have a good side. I’m sure lots of teams would kill to have him, but if he is played as our best striker, we’re a mid-table side I think. This season, there’s nothing wrong with that.

Disclaimer: without Billy we would not be anywhere near the Championship. He is 10 times the player Madine ever was and apparently he’s Messi after yesterday.

 

[SwissBlade]

Billy is just the current scapegoat at the moment and Leon is the blue eyed boy.

Had Billy missed the chances Leon missed today he would be getting hammered for it, but Clarke isn’t getting mentioned.

One is in form and the other isn’t, although Clarke’s form has also dipped the last few matches.

if we sign a striker in January who is a big hit then it’s likely a striker will end up moving on. I’d say at the moment Hanson and Lavery will leave before Billy.

I remember last season that people wanted rid of Leon and this season as well. Strikers go through spells like all players, Clayton pulled us out of it at Villa, but neither Billy, nor Leon are scoring at the moment.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

If billy is not scoring he contributes nothing to the team.

What have the Romans ever done for us?

Seriously though, modern societys' urge to find a scapegoat to apportion blame just highlights how stupid and dim witted we're all becoming.

I'm just glad Tufty has credit in the bank otherwise the same morons who are coming on here wanting the head of the club captain on a spike would be raising their pitchforks against him.

Did Billy play well yesterday? No. Did CW make an error in team selection? Yes.

Does it mean either/both are busted flushes? Not unless you're a complete fucking moron...

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Write Billy off at your peril

 

[Tunstall Fred]

What have the Romans ever done for us?

Seriously though, modern societys' urge to find a scapegoat to apportion blame just highlights how stupid and dim witted we're all becoming.

I'm just glad Tufty has credit in the bank otherwise the same morons who are coming on here wanting the head of the club captain on a spike would be raising their pitchforks against him.

Did Billy play well yesterday? No. Did CW make an error in team selection? Yes.

Does it mean either/both are busted flushes? Not unless you're a complete fucking moron...

Very,very well said,although should we lose at Derby,Wilder will be a target from the usual suspects

 

[Dellas Cowboys]

Bunkum.

Thanks for a fantastic 2017 Billy and roll on 2018.

Careful what you wish for, there's a manager currently building a team that has signed Bill 4 times already!

 

[thehet]

If billy is not scoring he contributes nothing to the team.
He no longer seems to have the strength to hold the ball up.
He has never had the pace to get beyond people
He appears to,have lost the “knack” to get across and in front of his marker.
He does not have quick enough feet to be involved in quick movement from player to player.
If we are to improve as a team he has to be replaced

Spot on.
His hold up play is woeful. I lost count of how many times he lost possession yesterday.
You also forgot his inability to draw a foul where forwards for other teams always seem to do.

I don't know what Billy did to warrant a return to the team?

Regarding service, we go down the wings all the time but yesterday we constantly went back inside and switched to the other flank. Crossing has generally been poor all season and when we do put a good one in, Clarke only seems to be the one you think might get on the end of it. Duffy, Fleck and Lundstram created next to nothing yesterday, and you could hardly say Coutts is the creative type. Thought Brooks would have been a perfect sub for yesterday.

At the start of the season we would have snapped hands off for 6th place come the New Year, but we are in danger of letting the hard work go down the shitter losing the 50-50 games, (Preston, Norwich, QPR, Bolton)

 

[Ricky]

His time as an automatic starter is certainly up.

 

[Ricky]

I don't know what Billy did to warrant a return to the team?

Nothing. We just want to start Donaldson at Derby.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

It wasn't the game for him yesterday against Bolton. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Our team is not playing with the fluidity of when Billy was scoring, and whilst there is a very obvious link between those two elements, can someone explain how the striker is responsible??

I have a man crush on Leon, but to compare him with Billy is to compare apples and oranges. A few tweaks to the team and Billy will be back in business.

For what it's worth, I thought Chris seemed a bit churlish in his post match interview yesterday. To criticise Billy as he did, but award the team 7.5/8, seemed a bit, well, nonsensical and defensive.

I'm not a Billy Clapper, but have clapped him many times and will again.

 

[SteveBlade]

A couple of months ago he was still good enough. We lose arguably our best player and go on a poor run where many are struggling and it's Billy who suddenly past it and not good enough?

He's been poor, but fuck me.

 

[Smirth]

Sick of the excuse of “well we aren’t creating chances for him.”

He needs to contribute more to how we play, we can’t afford to have a player at this level who’s only contribution is based on others doing work to service him. It’s not good enough and Billy needs to up his game or accept he’s no longer first choice because both Clarke and Donaldson have been offering far more than him this season.

It’s impressive that he has 8 goals but he has been poor for a month or two now and he really needs to up his game. We are in a tougher league and he’s not going to get the service he had in league one so that’s not an excuse for him.

 

[hoylandblade]

yes

 

[yorkshirecoast]

Sharp was brilliant most of last season but he clearly isn’t doing enough to start at the moment. The ball seems to bounce off him regularly and he has struggled against quicker, stronger defenders. I don’t think we can blame poor service as he often has it played into his feet - but unlike Clarke and the Don he has struggled to hold it up or shrug off the defender.

Whether he can still do it at this level I don’t know - but he should be on the bench for now.

 

[Bladesthorpe]

Great in league 1, not good enough for the championship move him on in January.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

Probably a bit too soon to say he time is up for Billy. He's scored 8 times already, and will find the net again. He has been off form lately, but we havent played (or been able to play) to his strengths with the likes of Coutts and Fleck being out of the team.

 

[wizadry]

Spot on.
His hold up play is woeful. I lost count of how many times he lost possession yesterday.
You also forgot his inability to draw a foul where forwards for other teams always seem to do.

I don't know what Billy did to warrant a return to the team?

Regarding service, we go down the wings all the time but yesterday we constantly went back inside and switched to the other flank. Crossing has generally been poor all season and when we do put a good one in, Clarke only seems to be the one you think might get on the end of it. Duffy, Fleck and Lundstram created next to nothing yesterday, and you could hardly say Coutts is the creative type. Thought Brooks would have been a perfect sub for yesterday.

At the start of the season we would have snapped hands off for 6th place come the New Year, but we are in danger of letting the hard work go down the shitter losing the 50-50 games, (Preston, Norwich, QPR, Bolton)

I don’t think Brooks could’ve done anything yesterday to be honest, the Bolton defenders would’ve just sent him to bed without a bedtime story.

 

[Bladesman]

I don't think his time is up but I think there are matches where he gets marked out of the game. There was a man on Sharp everytime he got a touch of the ball because of how deep Bolton defended.

We also have gone back to not crossing the ball first time especially yesterday which allowed the entire Bolton team to get back.

 

[super_pig]

Love Bill to bits but his contribution to the team lately has been poor. Leon put himself about for almost the whole game but in the time time Bill was on, i kept watching his movement off the ball and he looked to be miles away from the play. Maybe he's lost confidence and is avoiding getting involved and just hoping for a bit of a break in the penalty area.

I am not knocking him, just saying it as i see him in his present form. Maybe his career in the higher leagues is coming to an end. I hope i'm wrong but i feel old father time is catching him up.

utter crap can’t believe we are this shallow
embarrassing and shameful post here i’m stunned.. i hope Bill hasn’t read this

 

[super_pig]

EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM WILL ALWAYS SAY NO. PEOPLE NEED TO STOP POSTING NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT HIM BECAUSE IT MAKES EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM CRY AND BUTTHURT

BEG PARDON!
WHAT? YOU’RE AN IDIOT?
yes ok

 

[Sheffsteel]

BEG PARDON!
WHAT? YOU’RE AN IDIOT?
yes ok

I think he’s trying to say that Billy has some big fans on this forum.
So even the smallest amount of criticism towards Billy is challenged and shouted down.

To be honest everyone has a fair point.
Billy was poor yesterday, almost like having 10 men, so even if he’s a Blade he still should expect negative criticism when needed
But people need to understand the type of striker he is, he’s purely a finisher who needs setting up, so he’s hugely relient on his team mates and strike partner. He’s still the best finisher at the club but the worry is he’s not getting in positions to get the chances.

However Leon and The Don have more physicality, more pace and currently look better up front.

Anyway, when’s Ched back?

 

[super_pig]

I think he’s trying to say that Billy has some big fans on this forum.
So even the smallest amount of criticism towards Billy is challenged and shouted down.

To be honest everyone has a fair point.
Billy was poor yesterday, almost like having 10 men, so even if he’s a Blade he still should expect negative criticism when needed
But people need to understand the type of striker he is, he’s purely a finisher who needs setting up, so he’s hugely relient on his team mates and strike partner. He’s still the best finisher at the club but the worry is he’s not getting in positions to get the chances.

However Leon and The Don have more physicality, more pace and currently look better up front.

Anyway, when’s Ched back?

Fair comment against Billy is one thing but some of this drivel is embarrassing

 

[Keen Blade]

Billy's not the problem its the way we play these days. Billy thrives on early balls down the inside forward channel or early crosses for tap ins but we don't do that these days just this ineffective obsession of always and only go to the flanks and work the ball up and down for ages before any chance of the ball coming in and by which time Billy or the others are closely marked and they've parked the bus. When they scored today did their winger get to the by line and think should I knock the ball in or go back to the half way line and start again.

You are spot on with this.
Our approach play is far too slow to favour Billy.
But no one can deny he was totally ineffective yesterday.
Unless we set him up , he is currently not showing us any other positive aspects to his game.
Donaldson had more touches and caused more problems in 5 mins than Billy did in an hour.
CW says the only reason he didn't start Donaldson was because "he'd played too much football".
Sounds like BS to me.
Billy should not be starting in his current form , he should be an impact sub at most.

 

[Gavlar]

Its a bad run Billy's on for sure. Not finished though surely? 8 goals this season already and much less games than many others.

He isn't playing well though and may appear to be just a finisher,but I think he can create chances for Leon and is far cleverer than we think.
Still a threat at this level, but of course he can be dropped,as can anyone. Donaldson looks to have earnt a start from the Villa game.

We need another striker in the window in my view, esp if we lose Brooks. We need some pace.

 

[thehet]

Nothing. We just want to start Donaldson at Derby.

We want players to play on form.