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He might be motivated playing for a big club.

I mean it has already been established that Sheff Wed > Spurs

So by definition of attendance and league placing, ergo:

Sheff Utd > Sheff Wed > Spurs

🤣
I can’t find his quote about ‘not wanting to play football and he didn’t enjoy it’ As though he was being forced to pick up his £60 k a week or whatever he was on
 

Is Sharp out for season?

My guesses of return date / time out.

O'Connell - No return (3 years / indefinite) - knee ligaments
Sharp - March 2023 (7 months) - ankle ligaments
Coulibaly - February 2023 (6 months) - knee surgery
Fleck - January 2023 (4 months) - broken leg
Bogle - January 2023 (11 months) - knee ligaments
J Robinson - December 2022 (4 months) - knee ligaments
A Davies - December 2022 (4 months) - knee ligaments
Osborn - December 2022 (4 months) - hamstring / ankle injury
Lowe - November 2022 (3 months) - hamstring
C Clark - September 2022 (2 months) - hamstring

Between 1st October & 1st November we have 8 games.
That congestion worries me as we will be flogging our thin squad to death on heavier pitches.

If we don't consider Amissah & Gordon as proper Championship cover, and Heckingbottom seemingly doesn't as he spoke of using emergency loans if Foderingham went down and wanted to loan Gordon to League 2, then we're looking at this for the foreseeable...


Foderingham (no cover)

Baldock (no cover)
Basham (no cover)
Egan (no cover)
Anel (no cover)
Norrington-Davies (no cover)

Norwood (no cover)
Doyle (Arblaster)

Ndiaye (Khadra)
Berge (McAtee)

McBurnie (Brewster, Jebbison)

Pray for a miracle on the injury-front.
 
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According to Heckingbottom in the Star today:

Clark closest to a return, though doesn’t say when
Stevens still some way off
Osborn and Sharp training
Bogle progressing well
Jebbison could return this weekend

Make of that what you will.
 
According to Heckingbottom in the Star today:

Clark closest to a return, though doesn’t say when
Stevens still some way off
Osborn and Sharp training
Bogle progressing well
Jebbison could return this weekend

Make of that what you will.
Weren't Jebbison just an illness anyway? (Like wes) Clark and Stevens were back on grass 2 weeks ago...
 
My guesses of return date / time out.

O'Connell - No return (3 years / indefinite) - knee ligaments
Sharp - March 2023 (7 months) - ankle ligaments
Coulibaly - February 2023 (6 months) - knee surgery
Fleck - January 2023 (4 months) - broken leg
Bogle - January 2023 (11 months) - knee ligaments
J Robinson - December 2022 (4 months) - knee ligaments
A Davies - December 2022 (4 months) - knee ligaments
Osborn - December 2022 (4 months) - hamstring / ankle injury
Lowe - November 2022 (3 months) - hamstring
C Clark - September 2022 (2 months) - hamstring

Between 1st October & 1st November we have 8 games.
That congestion worries me as we will be flogging our thin squad to death on heavier pitches.

If we don't consider Amissah & Gordon as proper Championship cover, and Heckingbottom seemingly doesn't as he spoke of using emergency loans if Foderingham went down and wanted to loan Gordon to League 2, then we're looking at this for the foreseeable...


Foderingham (no cover)

Baldock (no cover)
Basham (no cover)
Egan (no cover)
Anel (no cover)
Norrington-Davies (no cover)

Norwood (no cover)
Doyle (Arblaster)

Ndiaye (Khadra)
Berge (McAtee)

McBurnie (Brewster, Jebbison)

Pray for a miracle on the injury-front.
That is an extremely exaggerated & worst case scenario on every player.

Predicting 3 months on a hamstring injury is if they've literally torn it - a pull & he's out for 4-6 weeks. Absolutely no idea how you've come to 7 months for Sharp.
 
That is an extremely exaggerated & worst case scenario on every player.

Predicting 3 months on a hamstring injury is if they've literally torn it - a pull & he's out for 4-6 weeks. Absolutely no idea how you've come to 7 months for Sharp.
At his age and with the medical care available, a pull could be as little as a fortnight. It only took me three weeks at that age and I’m rubbish.
 
At his age and with the medical care available, a pull could be as little as a fortnight. It only took me three weeks at that age and I’m rubbish.
Clark has a hamstring injury and it’s been nearly 5 weeks now.
 
That is an extremely exaggerated & worst case scenario on every player.

Predicting 3 months on a hamstring injury is if they've literally torn it - a pull & he's out for 4-6 weeks. Absolutely no idea how you've come to 7 months for Sharp.

Lowe did his hamstring 4th September. 8 weeks would pretty much take him into November. Perhaps you're right and mid-October may be more realistic for him.

My understanding was that Sharp had done his ankle ligaments and needed surgery?
Ankle ligament injuries can be horrendous for footballers, even more so at Sharp's age. Takes ages to build strength backup and you're very susceptible to making one sharp turn and going back another few weeks. Unless I've misheard / misread what has happened with him then I don't think it is unrealistic at all. But apologies if I have.

As for the rest, let's see. I hope you're right but we've been pretty poor with our recovery times.
 
I thought the whole issue with us having so many injuries was the training pitch and that was only in winter.

I also thought I heard that it'll be sorted by this winter so we should be much better with our injury record this season...... Are we just incredibly unlucky?
 
I thought the whole issue with us having so many injuries was the training pitch and that was only in winter.

I also thought I heard that it'll be sorted by this winter so we should be much better with our injury record this season...... Are we just incredibly unlucky?

Hopefully in the second half of the season we should be doing better injury wise.

We have the new head of performance in from Preston, we just need to get these pitches sorted.
 
I thought the whole issue with us having so many injuries was the training pitch and that was only in winter.

I also thought I heard that it'll be sorted by this winter so we should be much better with our injury record this season...... Are we just incredibly unlucky?
It hasn't helped in the past, but we can't escape the fact that if we play high intensity, high press, risk taking football we will pick up more injuries than teams who don't play that way. Conversely that's the reason we're so successful.

I do think we've been really unlucky, but I think to a point its unavoidable and part of the reason for our success
 
My guesses of return date / time out.

O'Connell - No return (3 years / indefinite) - knee ligaments
Sharp - March 2023 (7 months) - ankle ligaments
Coulibaly - February 2023 (6 months) - knee surgery
Fleck - January 2023 (4 months) - broken leg
Bogle - January 2023 (11 months) - knee ligaments
J Robinson - December 2022 (4 months) - knee ligaments
A Davies - December 2022 (4 months) - knee ligaments
Osborn - December 2022 (4 months) - hamstring / ankle injury
Lowe - November 2022 (3 months) - hamstring
C Clark - September 2022 (2 months) - hamstring

Between 1st October & 1st November we have 8 games.
That congestion worries me as we will be flogging our thin squad to death on heavier pitches.

If we don't consider Amissah & Gordon as proper Championship cover, and Heckingbottom seemingly doesn't as he spoke of using emergency loans if Foderingham went down and wanted to loan Gordon to League 2, then we're looking at this for the foreseeable...


Foderingham (no cover)

Baldock (no cover)
Basham (no cover)
Egan (no cover)
Anel (no cover)
Norrington-Davies (no cover)

Norwood (no cover)
Doyle (Arblaster)

Ndiaye (Khadra)
Berge (McAtee)

McBurnie (Brewster, Jebbison)

Pray for a miracle on the injury-front.

That's a bit harsh on Gordon, who has shown he can cope with first team football. Amissah also looks capable.

I agree the situation isn't great though.
 

My guesses of return date / time out.

O'Connell - No return (3 years / indefinite) - knee ligaments
Sharp - March 2023 (7 months) - ankle ligaments
Coulibaly - February 2023 (6 months) - knee surgery
Fleck - January 2023 (4 months) - broken leg
Bogle - January 2023 (11 months) - knee ligaments
J Robinson - December 2022 (4 months) - knee ligaments
A Davies - December 2022 (4 months) - knee ligaments
Osborn - December 2022 (4 months) - hamstring / ankle injury
Lowe - November 2022 (3 months) - hamstring
C Clark - September 2022 (2 months) - hamstring

Between 1st October & 1st November we have 8 games.
That congestion worries me as we will be flogging our thin squad to death on heavier pitches.

If we don't consider Amissah & Gordon as proper Championship cover, and Heckingbottom seemingly doesn't as he spoke of using emergency loans if Foderingham went down and wanted to loan Gordon to League 2, then we're looking at this for the foreseeable...


Foderingham (no cover)

Baldock (no cover)
Basham (no cover)
Egan (no cover)
Anel (no cover)
Norrington-Davies (no cover)

Norwood (no cover)
Doyle (Arblaster)

Ndiaye (Khadra)
Berge (McAtee)

McBurnie (Brewster, Jebbison)

Pray for a miracle on the injury-front.
Heavy pitches in 2022 and in October ! Have you not noticed global warming !!!!
 
Lowe did his hamstring 4th September. 8 weeks would pretty much take him into November. Perhaps you're right and mid-October may be more realistic for him.

My understanding was that Sharp had done his ankle ligaments and needed surgery?
Ankle ligament injuries can be horrendous for footballers, even more so at Sharp's age. Takes ages to build strength backup and you're very susceptible to making one sharp turn and going back another few weeks. Unless I've misheard / misread what has happened with him then I don't think it is unrealistic at all. But apologies if I have.

As for the rest, let's see. I hope you're right but we've been pretty poor with our recovery times.
I think the physio team will have to get some of them back on the grass whether they like it or not 🤣. No room for them in the room
 
That's a bit harsh on Gordon, who has shown he can cope with first team football. Amissah also looks capable.

I agree the situation isn't great though.

It might be harsh but the reality is, he was supposed to be going off to learn his trade in League 2 a week ago. Heckingbottom spoke openly about him being the number 1 candidate to go out and get football, so he obviously doesn't see him as a proper alternative here.

Amissah looked solid in his short cameo but, again, I don't think Heckingbottom would go with him for any more than a game.
 
It might be harsh but the reality is, he was supposed to be going off to learn his trade in League 2 a week ago. Heckingbottom spoke openly about him being the number 1 candidate to go out and get football, so he obviously doesn't see him as a proper alternative here.

Amissah looked solid in his short cameo but, again, I don't think Heckingbottom would go with him for any more than a game.

Agree that he (Gordon) was due out, when we had more bodies fit, but as things stand he is now the cover. For what it's worth I think he has looked pretty composed whenever he has played so feel relatively confident that he will do a job.

Re Amissah, we won't have any choice if Wes gets crocked. It will be Amissah and then one of the young lads as back up unless the emergency loan policy allows us to sign someone else?
 
Based on no info whatsoever , I'm hoping against hope that Clark & Stevens are available Saturday.
If neither are in the 18 , which means that Gordon is the only defensive sub we can name , then taking account of the fact that RND is our only left-footed defender , I'd say we are one injury from our defence being really fucked-up.
How this situation is being addressed by the club is key to keeping our promotion hopes rolling along.
It would be tantamount to negligence for the club to simply cross their fingers + hope , especially this season , which is crucial + which we've started so well.
FFS get out + grab a left-footed free-agent defender ... don't sleep-walk into a looming problem.
 
Predicting 3 months on a hamstring injury is if they've literally torn it - a pull & he's out for 4-6 weeks.

PH has confirmed it's bad news on Lowe.
Likely to be months rather than weeks.
My prediction now, in hindsight, looks an optimistic one. Doubt we will see him this year, sadly.

It really is going to be so difficult to keep up the top two form with our lessening options. The list only ever seems to grow.

One piece of good news though is that Sharp is apparently back in training, so his injury is far less serious than assumed.
 
PH has confirmed it's bad news on Lowe.
Likely to be months rather than weeks.
My prediction now, in hindsight, looks an optimistic one. Doubt we will see him this year, sadly.

It really is going to be so difficult to keep up the top two form with our lessening options. The list only ever seems to grow.

One piece of good news though is that Sharp is apparently back in training, so his injury is far less serious than assumed.
Half a chance Lowe is done for the season if it’s as bad as he says. Say a little prayer that RND stays fit everyone
 
PH has confirmed it's bad news on Lowe.
Likely to be months rather than weeks.
My prediction now, in hindsight, looks an optimistic one. Doubt we will see him this year, sadly.

It really is going to be so difficult to keep up the top two form with our lessening options. The list only ever seems to grow.

One piece of good news though is that Sharp is apparently back in training, so his injury is far less serious than assumed.
I don’t think we need to look at it that negatively. Stevens is decent enough back up to RND & Clark is a great LCB.

We just need to get bodies back, the international break can’t come soon enough!
 
PH has confirmed it's bad news on Lowe.
Likely to be months rather than weeks.
My prediction now, in hindsight, looks an optimistic one. Doubt we will see him this year, sadly.

It really is going to be so difficult to keep up the top two form with our lessening options. The list only ever seems to grow.

One piece of good news though is that Sharp is apparently back in training, so his injury is far less serious than assumed.
If I had to choose between Lowe and Billy being out for the season I'd choose Lowe. Big setback though.
 
My guesses of return date / time out.

O'Connell - No return (3 years / indefinite) - knee ligaments
Sharp - March 2023 (7 months) - ankle ligaments
Coulibaly - February 2023 (6 months) - knee surgery
Fleck - January 2023 (4 months) - broken leg
Bogle - January 2023 (11 months) - knee ligaments
J Robinson - December 2022 (4 months) - knee ligaments
A Davies - December 2022 (4 months) - knee ligaments
Osborn - December 2022 (4 months) - hamstring / ankle injury
Lowe - November 2022 (3 months) - hamstring
C Clark - September 2022 (2 months) - hamstring

Between 1st October & 1st November we have 8 games.
That congestion worries me as we will be flogging our thin squad to death on heavier pitches.

If we don't consider Amissah & Gordon as proper Championship cover, and Heckingbottom seemingly doesn't as he spoke of using emergency loans if Foderingham went down and wanted to loan Gordon to League 2, then we're looking at this for the foreseeable...


Foderingham (no cover)

Baldock (no cover)
Basham (no cover)
Egan (no cover)
Anel (no cover)
Norrington-Davies (no cover)

Norwood (no cover)
Doyle (Arblaster)

Ndiaye (Khadra)
Berge (McAtee)

McBurnie (Brewster, Jebbison)

Pray for a miracle on the injury-front.
They call you Dr Death down local?
 
It's unbelievable how threadbare the defence is again, considering the number of players we had in that area and once again the left side seems cursed. We currently have 8 left footed players injured and only Osborn seems like coming back any time soon.

The Clark situation is bizarre and particularly frustrating. He was supposedly close to returning a few weeks back. WTF is happening?

I get the feeling Hecky is getting pissed off with it now too, he certainly seemed tetchy in the press conference.
 

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