I'm too polite to say this on Facebook but..

[bromtom]

The problem is people are publicising it, and now there are a load of fakes (which come complete with fake Adidas tags btw) being sold on eBay as legit new with tags ones at up to £40.

If you can't afford a proper one, I get it, I can't at the moment I'm poor as balls, but I've just not bought one yet. I'll get one when I'm able, but having seen a fake and a real one, I'd much rather wait and get the proper one.

For those looking on eBay, the giveaway is a waffle pattern on all the shirt, and the badge is the old one with the smaller rose and more complex sword hilt.

 

[St Annington]

My 3 year old son has the last 3 Man City home kits plus an England World Cup kit all bought for him from said Chinese site by his uncle The quality is indistinguishable from the real thing. So 4 kits for £40.
My 9 year old daughter has the current home shirt with name, number and premier league badge - £73 (before 20% discount)

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

Remember Netto and how people used to take their M&S bags to carry their shopping?
Then years later Aldi and Lidl enter the market and initially people did the same as they did in Netto. But now, people don't care about showing that they shop in Aldi.
The same with Primani, as it's know in a joking way!
The same could be said for fake clothing.
Does anyone actually give a shit?
If you're getting a bargain and not being ripped off, who cares!

 

[bromtom]

My 3 year old son has the last 3 Man City home kits plus an England World Cup kit all bought for him from said Chinese site by his uncle The quality is indistinguishable from the real thing. So 4 kits for £40.
My 9 year old daughter has the current home shirt with name, number and premier league badge - £73 (before 20% discount)

Kids yeah, they wouldn't notice. But they are definitely distinguishable, well at least the United one I've seen is.

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

The real price of buying cheap clothes

The real price of buying cheap clothes

Globalisation has led to the rise of fast fashion but at what cost to the workers in developing nations?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[JonnyRed(WCFC)]

I think my wife looks hot in her Liverpool oneView attachment 59352

she's actually so well recognized they made a statue of her....the bit missing off your picture lol

 

[GuangzhouBlade]

Like others have said we all have a choice of what we spend our money on and the "ethics" behind it. I doubt most of us would ever by a pint of milk again if we looked too deeply into the dairy market. However on this one I can't help but feel the club have missed a trick. We aren't going to sell many shirts outside of Sheffield, we aren't Man U or Chelsea so why not make it £30 adult £20 kids and get everyone locally buying them. The club have created a market for the knock off shirts by charging too much for the official ones. If the official kids shirt was £20 I doubt many would go to the effort of buying the fake ones.

 

[Johnnyblade]

I bought the newhome shirt with SHARP and 10,cost £75
But I also liked the away shirt,I’m not going to pay another £75 so I’ve ordered a copy for £14 and the third neon kit with this years sponsors on it for another £14,haven’t got them yet though.
I also don’t live near Sheffield so no one would even know if they’re fake.
Shows how much they’re ripping you off if you can get a copy for £60 LESS!!

 

[bromtom]

I bought the newhome shirt with SHARP and 10,cost £75
But I also liked the away shirt,I’m not going to pay another £75 so I’ve ordered a copy for £14 and the third neon kit with this years sponsors on it for another £14,haven’t got them yet though.
I also don’t live near Sheffield so no one would even know if they’re fake.
Shows how much they’re ripping you off if you can get a copy for £60 LESS!!

If they were the same quality yeah, it'd be a ripoff, but they're not.

It's a bit like saying "shows how much of a rip off that Porsche 911 Cabriolet is when you can get a 2 year old Mazda MX-5 for a fraction of the price", it's worse. No getting around it, not awful but worse.

£14 is too cheap for it to be a quality replica kit, now, if there were £25-30 copies from China I'd fully believe they'd be identical to the £55 proper ones.

Adidas/United are I'd say, overcharging us/making a profit to the tune of 25 quid, not 60.

 

[metalblade]

I just picked up an away shirt with Premier League arm badge £48 with the discount and worth ever penny the shirt is a thing of beauty absolutely spot on, way better than the home shirt in my opinion. I think the collar is untidy on the home shirts and the stripes look like a image from a dodgy stream on a TV with interference. I will probably pick up a lime green away shirt later in the season when theyare on sale cheap

 

[Bladey]

Picture taken from a review of one from China.

Got to say it does look a bit shit from the picture.

 

[GallonofMagnet]

The counterfeit shirts went straight in to production as soon as United released images of the kit. The manufacturers went to work using only photos - the same ones we saw online. Based on that, the shirts aren’t a bad effort. Their biggest error being that they obviously saw a close-up of the white stripe (mesh-type material) and automatically assumed the same material was used for the whole shirt. They used what was probably the closest match available to them and production started. The genuine United home shirts combine 3 different materials:

Red stripes: Horizontal ribbed poly.
White stripes: Mesh poly.
Sleeves/Back: ‘Standard’ polyester.

There’s some fake Wolves shirts (same template as our Away) and they look much more like the genuine shirts they’re based on. The material being just the standard modern-day polyester stuff.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

The counterfeit shirts went straight in to production as soon as United released images of the kit. The manufacturers went to work using only photos - the same ones we saw online. Based on that, the shirts aren’t a bad effort. Their biggest error being that they obviously saw a close-up of the white stripe (mesh-type material) and automatically assumed the same material was used for the whole shirt. They used what was probably the closest match available to them and production started. The genuine United home shirts combine 3 different materials:

Red stripes: Horizontal ribbed poly.
White stripes: Mesh poly.
Sleeves/Back: ‘Standard’ polyester.

There’s some fake Wolves shirts (same template as our Away) and they look much more like the genuine shirts they’re based on. The material being just the standard modern-day polyester stuff.

GallonofMagnet Genuine Question (as I know you know a bit about "collecting"). Some of the people I know who collect programmes & teamsheets will actively seek out counterfeit, fake programmes from old games. Scouring eBay, picking up on rumours, etc. It sometimes seems they'll put more effort into sourcing a counterfeit programme than a real one. I think it's the "rarity value" - the counterfeit is rarer than the original. Have you come across the same in shirt collecting? Are some counterfeit shirts "desirable" to collectors?

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Was wondering how a guy i know got a kids shirt for his grandson with the actual sponsor!

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

Picture taken from a review of one from China.

Got to say it does look a bit shit from the picture.

Looks no worse than the cheap fake Barcelona, Liverpool, Real Madrid etc shirts you see in Spain, Greece etc....

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Hmmm, a tenner you say. Can I get an XXXL for the wife?

Straight swop you mean? I’m sure someone will take you up on that.

If you meant for her to wear then I’d be a bit cautious. Although stripes are supposed to be “slimming”, if she’s a XXXL, she might look like a giant red and white humbug in it.

 

[diplomat]

Everything is about a profit margin.

Next you'll be wanting the Premier League to be about football, or something equally ridiculous

Reading that back it doesn’t sound as I meant it. I think that there is some business sense in rinsing children less. Of course there is a tried and tested method that probably says they are actually the best people to rob, I mean provide goods to.

Anyway, I’d love my boy to have a kit but he’s not because he’s three and it’s a rip off. I’d rather spend that on taking him somewhere nice.

 

[GallonofMagnet]

GallonofMagnet Genuine Question (as I know you know a bit about "collecting"). Some of the people I know who collect programmes & teamsheets will actively seek out counterfeit, fake programmes from old games. Scouring eBay, picking up on rumours, etc. It sometimes seems they'll put more effort into sourcing a counterfeit programme than a real one. I think it's the "rarity value" - the counterfeit is rarer than the original. Have you come across the same in shirt collecting? Are some counterfeit shirts "desirable" to collectors?

Not that I’m aware of. I can 100% see the angle they’re approaching it from though. A month or two after Leicester won the Premier League I was in Benidorm on a stag do. I walked past a market stall and saw all the usual counterfeit shirts - Barca, Madrid, Juve and amongst them was a fake Leicester shirt. It was one of those “wow, Leicester really did win the Premier League” moments. And I remember thinking that had I been a Leicester fan, I’d definitely have bought it ‘for the collection’.

 

[Jon Bon II]

I've just got one for the missus.

Really pleased cos she was always banging on about a change of scenery and going abroad and I've got a shiny new shirt and peaceful ears...

 

[Rodders]

Kids, fair enough but any adult with a rip off shirt looks like a fucking scrubber.

 

[Maidenhead]

Like others have said we all have a choice of what we spend our money on and the "ethics" behind it. I doubt most of us would ever by a pint of milk again if we looked too deeply into the dairy market. However on this one I can't help but feel the club have missed a trick. We aren't going to sell many shirts outside of Sheffield, we aren't Man U or Chelsea so why not make it £30 adult £20 kids and get everyone locally buying them. The club have created a market for the knock off shirts by charging too much for the official ones. If the official kids shirt was £20 I doubt many would go to the effort of buying the fake ones.

Maybe Adidas set the prices?

Not ITK, just a thought.

 

[Linz]

Shirts have always been expensive though - I certainly never had a shirt "brand new" as a child. I had to wait until they got sold off cheap at the end of the season.

The difference then, of course, was that shirts often lasted two seasons.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Maybe Adidas set the prices?

Not ITK, just a thought.

Do the shirts actually cost the club only £15 to buy? Adidas have all the costs to have them made, add their profit and sell them at £15 and we make by far the biggest profit margin?

Seems a bit unlikely.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Me and my wife buy and sell used clothing for a living.
We have to be so clued up with the amount of fake stuff which comes in mainly from the Asian countries.
I recently bought a retro Adidas Firebird tracksuit which was in excellent condition and if I'm honest to good to be true. And yes, remember that old "if it seems to good to be true" saying....
I just couldn't put my finger on what was wrong with it. Then I realised, all of the Adidas stitching etc was spot on. However the inner material label, the one which said "NIKE" on it, well that was definitely fake

I once typed 'Palermo' into ebay as I wanted a pink home shirt. A 'Hugo Boss Palermo Suit jacket' was listed. £1.80 I paid.

Yeah.....

They refunded my postage costs when I have them a negative review. Boss my arse.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Not that I’m aware of. I can 100% see the angle they’re approaching it from though. A month or two after Leicester won the Premier League I was in Benidorm on a stag do. I walked past a market stall and saw all the usual counterfeit shirts - Barca, Madrid, Juve and amongst them was a fake Leicester shirt. It was one of those “wow, Leicester really did win the Premier League” moments. And I remember thinking that had I been a Leicester fan, I’d definitely have bought it ‘for the collection’.

The thing with the CBF extremists is that a "counterfeit" programme looks nothing like a real programme. It's not supposed to, it's not designed to. It's a separate, different thing. It's another bit of paper they've got to have. In the true sense it's not counterfeit at all. I wind them up by referring to counterfeit programmes, they always correct me - Phil, souvenir programmes. I once drank counterfeit beer in Sheffield. Had a pint, tweeted about it, tagged in the brewery, they immediately contacted me & asked what was going on as they hadn't brewed that beer in years. I might put that one in the book.....

 

[shorehamview]

When you look at how much money kit manufacturers make compared to how much the clubs in total make it’s not really depriving the club of much money. Adidas each year make more money than Manchester United have done in their entire history.
The manufacturer pays the club to essentially use their logo and kit design under license. The manufacturer takes the lion’s share of any sales.
Nike in three months of 2017 made more than Chelsea have done since they were founded!
www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/premier-league-transfer-news-epl-cristiano-ronaldo-shirt-sales-fee-net-worth-contract-how-long-a8456191.html%3famp