If not wilder, who else????

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The idea that our current owners and leadership would implement it effectively is, in my view, equally insane.
I don’t understand the assumption that very successful businessmen wouldn’t learn from past mistakes. Because all the very successful businessmen I’ve ever worked with have done exactly that.
 



I wouldn't say I'm his most adoring fan, particularly not in his second and third stint, but I don't think you can argue with some of your points - regardless of which side of the fence you currently sit.

Considering the restrictions during the transfer window, again I don't think you can argue that he has done ok, we needed some more experience, Donovan aside, players brought in have a proven track record in the division (and some in the PL). I'm even cautiously optimistic that Ayew can make a valuable contribution this season. I am leaning into the idea that perhaps most of his detractors don't have a high footballing intelligence - that's in no way meant to be disrespectful to anyone either. We all watch and follow the game for different reasons.

Anyway, I digress. With Wilder at the helm I'm confident we won't ever be in real danger of dropping out of the Championship, and probably be in the mix most seasons. This year has just been a 'ripping off the band aid' season. Seems like the owners have decided to just get the financial situation reined in in one swoop. Hopefully means we will have a bit more room to manoeuvre next year. A lot of players out of contract too, I haven't checked who but hopefully a good chance to clear out some of the high earning plodders.
You might not mean to come across as disrespectful. But it kind of is 🤷
 
I don’t understand the assumption that very successful businessmen wouldn’t learn from past mistakes. Because all the very successful businessmen I’ve ever worked with have done exactly that.
I really want to agree with this as it is logical but their decisions don’t really seem to be improving over time. If they were to say - we’re done so we’re putting in the minimum possible whist we offload the club then their position would make more sense to me but they aren’t saying that, at least in public.
 
If Wilder left tomorrow, there would be a frightening number of fans happy to see Billy Sharp take over.

That's the culture that people talk about.

Any club hoping to achieve anything positive need committed players pulling in the same direction with a good team spirit and putting a proper shift in.

That's not Sheffield United culture. Just the basis for a successful team.

Our culture is having too many fans who only trust a manager who is local or has an association with the club. The 'we need someone who gets us' brigade.
 
I don’t understand the assumption that very successful businessmen wouldn’t learn from past mistakes. Because all the very successful businessmen I’ve ever worked with have done exactly that.
One of my core beliefs this. Always give businessmen the benefit of the doubt. And believe in better.
 
If Wilder left tomorrow, there would be a frightening number of fans happy to see Billy Sharp take over.

That's the culture that people talk about.

Any club hoping to achieve anything positive need committed players pulling in the same direction with a good team spirit and putting a proper shift in.

That's not Sheffield United culture. Just the basis for a successful team.

Our culture is having too many fans who only trust a manager who is local or has an association with the club. The 'we need someone who gets us' brigade.
They don't need to be from Sheffield. Hecky was from Barnsley.
 
I really want to agree with this as it is logical but their decisions don’t really seem to be improving over time. If they were to say - we’re done so we’re putting in the minimum possible whist we offload the club then their position would make more sense to me but they aren’t saying that, at least in public.
A lot of people are thinking that recent events are pointing to them either getting out or surrendering a large stake in us.
They wouldn't openly say we're not putting any more money in etc, as I would imagine that would encourage a lowball offer. If something does occur I think they'd keep a percentage of the club, just in case.
 
A lot of people are thinking that recent events are pointing to them either getting out or surrendering a large stake in us.
They wouldn't openly say we're not putting any more money in etc, as I would imagine that would encourage a lowball offer. If something does occur I think they'd keep a percentage of the club, just in case.
I do hope they find someone (or group) to dig us out of the doo doo. Don’t like accepting what we are seeing on the pitch as being the standard we can expect for the foreseeable. Not sure what the problem would be in saying we’re just ticking the club over as it is painfully obvious.
 
Cooper, Hessenhuttl, Parker, Edwards, Challinor, Dyche etc etc, look them up.
Mousinho could be decent, need to move on, whenever wilder and staff go we need to move on
 
The football club is not structured for any manager other than a Wilder type.
 
I do hope they find someone (or group) to dig us out of the doo doo. Don’t like accepting what we are seeing on the pitch as being the standard we can expect for the foreseeable. Not sure what the problem would be in saying we’re just ticking the club over as it is painfully obvious.
The problem is that if a billionaire took over, he/she wouldn't be able to just shovel money into the team.
The solution is to increase the revenues, which, in theory, you don't need a billionaire for. You need clever people who can attract big sponsorship deals, which enable you to increase spending on the team.
Hopefully then you have a good manager who assembles a team that can get promoted, which brings the riches of the Premier League, which enables you to get better sponsorship deals etc and so on.
 



Completely agree but we have become more polarised as a society - imagine a gentle debate on racism between Reform and the Greens! I dislike dire football but this season given resources I’d be happy with a successful dire season. Doesn’t mean I would want that in an ideal world but given where we are.
I would hope that if we properly stabilise this year with the rubbish we are in then whether it is with CW or someone else, we could use that as a base and just hope we might have a new less incompetent ownership model.
The owners have dropped 2 bollocks,do I trust them for the next decision,at present no. But the manager has been backed and look what cast offs we have been left with,these go with the other expensive misfits. Racism-it’s how you interpret it,that’s another story.
 
Yes it is. And not one single Wilder supporter believes it.

Of course someone might do better but now isn't the time to gamble. Wilder won't be here forever. His succession should be planned and prepared for.

It has been proven time and again that success elsewhere is no guarantee of success at BL.
Yeah, no manager would take the job under the current circumstances at the club.
 
I’d maybe start by actually interviewing a few managers, although if they do that we’ll end up with someone who’s won the Champions League with Barrow on Champ Manager or summat.
 



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