I wonder what RS Johnny is thinking now?

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I've no idea if he said we would be in a relegation battle but someone messaged him last week and he denied he ever said we'd be in a relegation scrap. I don't mind him as a presenter to be honest
 
In response to the OP, I hope he, like all the radio pig and piggy stir lot (apart from Danny) are fucking miserable. They've enjoyed reporting on our misery for the last 6 years, so it's about time the biased bastards got a taste of their own medicine.
 
Cerberus Blade said:
Radio Sheffield's, Jonathan Buchan, the guy with the flat vowels and seemingly even flatter intellect. I wonder what he is thinking this morning as he looks at the Championship league table and sees Sheffield United sitting on top of the pile?

Remember, this is the guy who has mentioned "relegation", "relegation battle" and "survival" all summer, every time Sheffield United's name came up.

I wonder if he's now in the camp of admitting he got it grossly wrong - or maybe he's in the "bubble will burst soon" camp? Does he still think we are going to get relegated I wonder? Of course, it's still possible that we could - but we won't - and it was NEVER going to be the case.

I think everyone is entitled to their opinions, and opinions differ of course. But what I can't understand is how anyone with any knowledge of the game, could have looked at the Sheffield United team that blasted its way out of League 1 last season, playing a standard of football, way above that of League 1, and tip them to struggle this season? Honestly, I find that incredible. Especially for someone who observes and reports on football for a living. It shows an alarming lack of insight to me.

I'm not saying any of us thought it would be as good a start to a season as this, but I think most "sensible" Blades would have expected us to at the very least hold our own.

It makes it all the sweeter to prove our doubters wrong eh?
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He’s in the wet behind the ears, knows nowt about football, camp. You don’t get extra experience or wisdom by becoming a local radio hack.

His opinion is not of the slightest weight, merit or importance. Same goes for the other legends in their own postcodes.
 
Pinchy said:
He’s in the wet behind the ears, knows nowt about football, camp. You don’t get extra experience or wisdom by becoming a local radio hack.

His opinion is not of the slightest weight, merit or importance. Same goes for the other legends in their own postcodes.
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He gets paid for his opinions you don't
 
Much the same as your opinion carries the slightest weight, merit or importance to me.

How`s life in your ivory tower?
 
Fanny magnet said:
He gets paid for his opinions you don't
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Actually I do. A very great deal more than him, as it happens.

He’s a fucking numpty. A spotty faced adolescent who hasn’t a clue. I bet he plays Junior Computer Manager.
 
Top Cat said:
Much the same as your opinion carries the slightest weight, merit or importance to me.

How`s life in your ivory tower?
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I’ve seen a great deal more life and football than some fucking local hack fresh out of Junior Reporter school.
 
Pinchy said:
Actually I do. A very great deal more than him, as it happens.

He’s a fucking numpty. A spotty faced adolescent who hasn’t a clue. I bet he plays Junior Computer Manager.
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About football ?
 
Pinchy said:
I know a great deal more about football than any Radio hack. Why wouldn’t I? You probably do as well. What on Earth makes you think they have any superior knowledge of the game to anyone else?
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Don't you know? He's commentates on the football.on the radio so he's bound to be an all seeing all knowing expert on football and will obviously know shit loads more about it than the mere likes of us who have been playing / watching football and United for quite a considerable long period than young Jonny has.

If I decided to pack in my current job, did a bit of studying in sports media and then applied / got a job commentating on a professional football team on the radio, would that suddenly make me an expert all of a sudden after all the previous years of being a no nowt?

As Pinchy mentioned above, whilst not having a pop at the RS presenters or other local media peeps who I think do a decent enough job, the idea that they apparently know more about football than the rest of us who have been watching it and playing it for the majority of our rather longer lives so far, is just a daft concept.

I know more about SUFC than those commentators will ever know. Why? Cos I immerse myself in that particular subject matter as a passion, not because im paid a few quid to know a bit about the current team for my media job.

Pinchy is spot on with this one.
 
PeteBlade said:
Are we adding this guy to the long fake list of people some fans are convinced have it in for us?
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No I don't think people are compiling a fake list of people who have it in for Utd. That would be just a tad silly.

Instead I think some people, myself included, are just pointing out (quite good naturedly) that some people don't know their arse from their elbow and that in this instance it was quite apparent that for some reason young Jonny from RS could only see a season of struggle for Utd with his continual references to such in the daily phone ins on RS. It was quite noticeable I thought and it got my goat too as it was helping to buy into the la liga myth which I always thought was a load of pony.

Whilst clearly Utd are doing better than anyone could realistically claim at the start of the season, some of us actually thought we would do very well as we had confidence in the club/players and more importantly CW. Don't believe that? Read some of the posts on here from back in the summer. Some of us were very upbeat about our chances this season.

Seemingly we were right and another local media expert was talking out of his arse (or maybe just a tad naive). I dont think CW has made a list of people who have it in for Utd...but I do recall Wilder making a tongue in cheek comment back to 'the blades are doomed' Jonny in an interview earlier in the season about Utd doing better than the expected relegation struggle which apparently was all we could look for ward too (whilst apparently the pigs were gunna romp it home). It was a mild dig back from CW I thought at the time - and I'm sure Jonny got the message. Since then, and with the help if the results obviously, he's changed his tune a little. Doesn't mean that he didnt continually say it though back in August though.
 
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It sounded like Paul Walker commentating on Cardiff v Milwall game on Channel 5 last night. Be interesting for RS to ask him his thoughts on their style, strengths etc in relation to ours.

Realise it's highlights only but they appeared to be the usual Championship type side.
 
Still wrankles that some journalists say we are long ball merchants when we haven't played that way at all under Wilder. We pass from defence to midfield ,midfield to front and pass around defendérs. We pass more than any other team and in Coutts have the statistically highest passer in the league. But why would any idle journo ever base an assessment on facts.
 



It's just easy journalism for lazy hacks. Far easier to stick with a stereotype rather than do some investigative work beforehand.

Poor examples of journalism when they report Utd as long ball. Utd play some wonderful attcaking football with plenty of width which stretches opposition defences. In short, it's top class football.
 
PeteBlade said:
Are we adding this guy to the long fake list of people some fans are convinced have it in for us?
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I'm not. I don't think that for one minute. I just think that as a sports journalist he should be capable of making an informed assessment as to the quality/ability of a squad to compete following promotion - and I really don't get where he got 'relegation fodder' from?
Berkshire Blade said:
I think most of us were happy with 4th from bottom in the summer to be honest!!
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That's not my impression mate. I mean, I know Sheffielder's are naturally pessimistic, but most people I spoke to thought we would hold our own - that was what I picked up - unless I've been mainly talking to optimists?

My view was that we would comfortably hold our own at this level. And I based that on a number of factors: First of all, the manager and his ability to squeeze every drop of effort out each and every player. The quality of the signings he's made. The strong team work ethic he's got going on down there - and not least - the type of football we were playing.

I've been watching since around 1970. I've seen some good United teams in that time. I've seen several "promotion" teams and honestly, I do think you can tell when a team has really got something about them and is going places. It's a combination of lots of things that come together, the right manager, the right players, with the right attitude, the right team selection and tactics, the right level of backing from the Board, the feelgood factor amongst the fans, the quality of the football being played out there on the pitch. It's all those things. Every single time I've seen a United team do well, it's been all of those things, without exception.

Based on the fantastic football we saw last season, I felt we'd be somewhere between 8th and 12th this season. i.e. top half. I said if we were able to strengthen in Jan we could push for the play-offs. We're doing even better than that of course, which is brilliant!

Now either I'm especially talented with the gift of foresight, or, my expectations of this season were pretty reasonable, based on everything that had gone before. I think it's the latter. I don't know how anyone could have seen what we produced last season and predict that we were going to struggle this season. I can understand many Blades erring on the side of caution - that seems to be a natural trait. We had loads on here talking about "consolidation" which I just find so negative tbh and I know it's not a word in Wilder's vocabulary either. But I can't understand anyone, not even the most negative, pessimistic, Blade, having witnessed what we delivered last season and thinking that we were in for a relegation struggle this season. That's my point.
 
Cerberus Blade said:
I'm not. I don't think that for one minute. I just think that as a sports journalist he should be capable of making an informed assessment as to the quality/ability of a squad to compete following promotion - and I really don't get where he got 'relegation fodder' from?


That's not my impression mate. I mean, I know Sheffielder's are naturally pessimistic, but most people I spoke to thought we would hold our own - that was what I picked up - unless I've been mainly talking to optimists?

My view was that we would comfortably hold our own at this level. And I based that on a number of factors: First of all, the manager and his ability to squeeze every drop of effort out each and every player. The quality of the signings he's made. The strong team work ethic he's got going on down there - and not least - the type of football we were playing.

I've been watching since around 1970. I've seen some good United teams in that time. I've seen several "promotion" teams and honestly, I do think you can tell when a team has really got something about them and is going places. It's a combination of lots of things that come together, the right manager, the right players, with the right attitude, the right team selection and tactics, the right level of backing from the Board, the feelgood factor amongst the fans, the quality of the football being played out there on the pitch. It's all those things. Every single time I've seen a United team do well, it's been all of those things, without exception.

Based on the fantastic football we saw last season, I felt we'd be somewhere between 8th and 12th this season. i.e. top half. I said if we were able to strengthen in Jan we could push for the play-offs. We're doing even better than that of course, which is brilliant!

Now either I'm especially talented with the gift of foresight, or, my expectations of this season were pretty reasonable, based on everything that had gone before. I think it's the latter. I don't know how anyone could have seen what we produced last season and predict that we were going to struggle this season. I can understand many Blades erring on the side of caution - that seems to be a natural trait. We had loads on here talking about "consolidation" which I just find so negative tbh and I know it's not a word in Wilder's vocabulary either. But I can't understand anyone, not even the most negative, pessimistic, Blade, having witnessed what we delivered last season and thinking that we were in for a relegation struggle this season. That's my point.
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agree.. if you romp the league below with 100 points you aren't going to struggle in the league above because with that level of dominance you are basically in the wrong league to start with!
 
Not saying people expected a relegation scrap but to pretend we a
GRUMPY BLADE said:
I think most of us weren't and didn't expect us to be any where near relegation.
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Didn't expect but would be happy! Most (maybe all) blades thought we'd be fine but after so long out just staying up was fine.

Of course now we are all of a totally different mindset!
 
Think this is really harsh on the guy. Yes we destroyed league one, but we'd been there for 6 years. Our squad has been assembled relatively cheaply, and many had not played at that level for a number of years. In league one we were awesome, but our defence looked fragile at times. I felt we'd be a bottom half side who would keep themselves just outside the fight. Our achievements so far this season have been remarkable and incredible really.

As for questioning his expertise, the fact he gets to dedicate his professional time to researching football, specifically South Yorkshire sides, should give him incredible inside knowledge. What ever job each the members of this forum do, I'd like to bet most of us consider ourselves experts in our own fields. I'm not claiming he has some intrinsic understanding we do not, just that he is fortunate enough to dedicate a greater proportion of his time to it.

I'm also a big fan of Radio Sheffield, the coverage of all our local sides is superb. I rate all the presenters and feel we have one of the best teams of local sports journalists. When I lived away from the city their coverage was invaluable and allowed me to compare it to how poor coverage is on most local radio stations.
 
Foody said:
Think this is really harsh on the guy. Yes we destroyed league one, but we'd been there for 6 years. Our squad has been assembled relatively cheaply, and many had not played at that level for a number of years. In league one we were awesome, but our defence looked fragile at times. I felt we'd be a bottom half side who would keep themselves just outside the fight. Our achievements so far this season have been remarkable and incredible really.

As for questioning his expertise, the fact he gets to dedicate his professional time to researching football, specifically South Yorkshire sides, should give him incredible inside knowledge. What ever job each the members of this forum do, I'd like to bet most of us consider ourselves experts in our own fields. I'm not claiming he has some intrinsic understanding we do not, just that he is fortunate enough to dedicate a greater proportion of his time to it.

I'm also a big fan of Radio Sheffield, the coverage of all our local sides is superb. I rate all the presenters and feel we have one of the best teams of local sports journalists. When I lived away from the city their coverage was invaluable and allowed me to compare it to how poor coverage is on most local radio stations.
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RS is different class compared to most other BBC local stations. Their commentaries stand up to scrutiny against most commercial radios and the nationals.

I’m sure Buchan is delighted we’re doing so well, as are the others. I’m not sure why periodically they all get hung out to dry, often for having the temerity to have their own point of view.
 
Pinchy said:
I know a great deal more about football than any Radio hack. Why wouldn’t I? You probably do as well. What on Earth makes you think they have any superior knowledge of the game to anyone else?
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To be fair, I’ve read your posts for years and listened to Jonny for a fair few seasons now. I think he knows more than you Pinch.
 
Weasel said:
Don't you know? He's commentates on the football.on the radio so he's bound to be an all seeing all knowing expert on football and will obviously know shit loads more about it than the mere likes of us who have been playing / watching football and United for quite a considerable long period than young Jonny has.

If I decided to pack in my current job, did a bit of studying in sports media and then applied / got a job commentating on a professional football team on the radio, would that suddenly make me an expert all of a sudden after all the previous years of being a no nowt?

As Pinchy mentioned above, whilst not having a pop at the RS presenters or other local media peeps who I think do a decent enough job, the idea that they apparently know more about football than the rest of us who have been watching it and playing it for the majority of our rather longer lives so far, is just a daft concept.

I know more about SUFC than those commentators will ever know. Why? Cos I immerse myself in that particular subject matter as a passion, not because im paid a few quid to know a bit about the current team for my media job.

Pinchy is spot on with this one.
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When is Pinchy ever not spot on?

He had it right about that traffic cone Monty all along.
 
Booker4 said:
I've never heard him say he is from Leeds but i don't care really, he's a decent summariser and from memory he said we'd finish about 16th at the end of last season, I don't ever remember him saying we'd be in a relegation battle to be fair.
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I don't either, nor any of the others, but somehow, it's become accepted on this thread that he was forecasting relegation.

I imagine all broadcasts are available to listen to, would anybody on here care to find a quote from Buchan (or any of the others for that matter), supporting the notion that they thought we were in a relegation scrap?
 
Rodley said:
RS is different class compared to most other BBC local stations. Their commentaries stand up to scrutiny against most commercial radios and the nationals.

I’m sure Buchan is delighted we’re doing so well, as are the others. I’m not sure why periodically they all get hung out to dry, often for having the temerity to have their own point of view.
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Couldn't agree more. When I lived up in Scotland I developed a bit of a soft spot for Dundee United, who at that point were comfortably Scotland's third best side, and won the cup during this time. Despite this success, BBC radio Scotland would only ever really cover the old firm, leaving you stuck with local commercial coverage. In this case Tay FM. The commentary and coverage was so amateurish it was untrue, they offered no knowledge or insight on the opponents and were so biased that it was almost impossible to follow what was happening. By contrast every time I opened up blades player and listened to third tier football, the coverage was superb.
 
Weasel said:
If I decided to pack in my current job, did a bit of studying in sports media and then applied / got a job commentating on a professional football team on the radio, would that suddenly make me an expert all of a sudden after all the previous years of being a no nowt? I know more about SUFC than those commentators will ever know. Why? Cos I immerse myself in that particular subject matter as a passion, not because im paid a few quid to know a bit about the current team for my media job.
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With all respect, ‘doing a bit of studying in sports media’ is a little insulting. It’s a bit more difficult than that. Immersing yourself in the club you cover as a passion does help, though :D
 



I actually like RS/FH/PorG. And I don’t mind any of the presenters.

Does this set me aside somewhat?
 
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