How are our preseason targets fairing?

[gavtheblade]

OK, so in the summer we were heavily linked with Waghorn, Hogan ,Sam Gallagher,and loosely with a couple of others, Winall and Abraham.

Out of the above have any of them individually scored more goals than David Mcgoldrick?

In fact as a group have they scored more than David Mcgoldrick?

Answers on a postcard.

In Tufty we trust.

 

[mattbianco1]

Out of the above have any of them individually scored more goals than David Mcgoldrick?

No, but I dare say they would've scored equal to, if not more than him if they played for us.

Mcgoldrick has been a revelation. But the players listed in the OP are better players

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Every single one of those players would have scored goals in Wilders team. Hogan has already shown his dismay at not being allowed to come to the lane. Waghorn must be thinking the same as picks splinters out of his arse at Frank Lampards Derby.

 

[blade too long]

No, but I dare say they would've scored equal to, if not more than him if they played for us.

Mcgoldrick has been a revelation. But the players listed in the OP are better players

are they , really
on what facts is that based

 

[SteveBlade]

I'd go as far as saying McGoldrick is clearly better at football than all of those mentioned. His ability was never the part of his game that was ever in question anyway.

The others might be quicker and more dynamic, but I don't think any are quite as good as McGoldrick with the ball and their feet.

In our system, a fit David McGoldrick is more effective than any of those mentioned.

 

[LJBlade]

No, but I dare say they would've scored equal to, if not more than him if they played for us.

Mcgoldrick has been a revelation. But the players listed in the OP are better players

What is that based on? Three of them aren’t even playing for their clubs at the moment and Waghorn has played a few games but so far seems to have done very little

 

[stringjunior]

What is that based on? Three of them aren’t even playing for their clubs at the moment and Waghorn has played a few games but so far seems to have done very little

Don't go bringing facts and logic on to this forum, thank you. There's no place for it.

 

[BigBed]

I can't wait for SuperCheds return!!

 

[mattbianco1]

are they , really
on what facts is that based

What is that based on? Three of them aren’t even playing for their clubs at the moment and Waghorn has played a few games but so far seems to have done very little

There's only really one direct comparison amongst them and that is Waghorn v McGoldrick as they played in the same side last year. Waghorn scored more and assisted more than McGoldrick.

There's no direct comparison with the others unless we check their goals/games ratio at this level and I'm on my phone so can't do that at the minute. If I think on tomoro I will.

Chris Wilder works wonders with average players, imagine what he could do with above average ones.

Edit.. here you go, 'league' goals per game ovwr their careers so far:

Winnall 0.39
Abraham 0.38
Hogan 0.37
Waghorn 0.27
Mcgoldrick 0.25
Gallagher 0.16

Therefore I apologise. Gallagher isn't as good.

 

[8lade]

Waghorn is starting to look like a one season wonder and I would've been thrilled if we'd signed him. Looks like we have Clarke to fill that roll!

It's a joke, it's a joke!

 

[mattbianco1]

Billy Sharp 0.43

 

[LJBlade]

There's only really one direct comparison amongst them and that is Waghorn v McGoldrick as they played in the same side last year. Waghorn scored more and assisted more than McGoldrick.

There's no direct comparison with the others unless we check their goals/games ratio at this level and I'm on my phone so can't do that at the minute. If I think on tomoro I will.

Chris Wilder works wonders with average players, imagine what he could do with above average ones.

Edit.. here you go, 'league' goals per game ovwr their careers so far:

Winnall 0.39
Abraham 0.38
Hogan 0.37
Waghorn 0.27
Mcgoldrick 0.25
Gallagher 0.16

Therefore I apologise. Gallagher isn't as good.

My argument is that you can’t argue that a player is better than another if one of them isn’t even playing. Winall and Hogan have been injured for ages as well. It doesn’t matter what their respective goals to game ratio is, if they aren’t playing they can’t be better than anyone.

 

[BigBed]

"BILLY SHARP, BILLY SHARP, WEVE GOT BILLY SHARP, nana nana nana nana na na na WEVE GOT BILLY SHARP, BILLY SHARP ,WEVE GOT BILLY SHARP"

 

[tomtheblade]

So hard to judge, because who's to say that a player sat on the bench or out of form at another club wouldn't be banging them in or getting Motm every week here.

We know Wilder can get the best out of players others don't rate highly. What really matters is that the ones who do come to sufc do the business. So far I'd say our summer signings are successful. The jury is still out in one or two cases but with more playing time that may change.

 

[SwissBlade]

OK, so in the summer we were heavily linked with Waghorn, Hogan ,Sam Gallagher,and loosely with a couple of others, Winall and Abraham.

Out of the above have any of them individually scored more goals than David Mcgoldrick?

In fact as a group have they scored more than David Mcgoldrick?

Answers on a postcard.

In Tufty we trust.

Its unfair to do a comparison as none of the others are playing for the Blades and so are at a disadvantage.

I would assume that all of them would've scored more goals at the Blades than at their current clubs

By the way, shows how much of a threat that Bruce considered us to not let Hogan come to United.

 

[Houston_Blade]

I just like using the phrase "Wankhorn". In his career he has scored goals for Rangers so they should be taken out of any average as it's not a real league.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

"BILLY SHARP, BILLY SHARP, WEVE GOT BILLY SHARP, nana nana nana nana na na na WEVE GOT BILLY SHARP, BILLY SHARP ,WEVE GOT BILLY SHARP"

‘Billy Shark’

 

[Rusty view]

What player wouldn't score goals at the league leaders?

McG might have had another 3 or 4 goals if he could head a ball. Am I regretting us not getting the others instead, no I'm not. Mc G Funk has scored goals, assisted and has been excellent in dropping deep.

No regrets from me, and I'm certainly not sat here thinking " I wished we'd chucked the lot at Waghorn et al.

 

[Pinchy]

What is that based on? Three of them aren’t even playing for their clubs at the moment and Waghorn has played a few games but so far seems to have done very little

They all play for other clubs. Other clubs are fantastic and have wonderful players.

We Other Clubs.

 

[super_pig]

I just like using the phrase "Wankhorn". In his career he has scored goals for Rangers so they should be taken out of any average as it's not a real league.

they weren't in the SPL then either i don't believe. (without checking could be wrong).. the Rangers lads who i work with looked at me goggle eyed and said 'he's good but not THAT good'

 

[BLADES1988]

What player wouldn't score goals at the league leaders?

McG might have had another 3 or 4 goals if he could head a ball. Am I regretting us not getting the others instead, no I'm not. Mc G Funk has scored goals, assisted and has been excellent in dropping deep.

No regrets from me, and I'm certainly not sat here thinking " I wished we'd chucked the lot at Waghorn et al.

 

[mattbianco1]

My argument is that you can’t argue that a player is better than another if one of them isn’t even playing. Winall and Hogan have been injured for ages as well. It doesn’t matter what their respective goals to game ratio is, if they aren’t playing they can’t be better than anyone.

So if Messi is injured, Dean Hammond is better?

 

[mattbianco1]

I just like using the phrase "Wankhorn". In his career he has scored goals for Rangers so they should be taken out of any average as it's not a real league.

If you take out his Rangers career he's on 0.22 goals per game. Down from 0.27 (27 goals in 55apps for Rangers).

Of his 282 games, he has come on as sub in 101 of those. I obviously don't know how many times he's scored off the bench, but another way of looking at it is that his goals per games is 0.43 per start. (0.36 without Rangers).

I checked last season. He scored 16 goals, 15 from starts.

McGoldrick's is 0.34 goals per start. Last season McG scored 8 goals, 7 from starts

 

[sitwell]

So if Messi is injured, Dean Hammond is better?

Yes actually ,like saying is Connor Sammon better than Derek Dooley. Hes got more chance of getting a goal to be fair ,not a very big one but its there.

 

[Topplayersleave]

I think Hogan and maybe Gallagher would have done well in our team. I don't know where the rumour about Abraham started but he is the kind of player that we wouldn't realistically be in for even if we were in the Premier League

 

[LJBlade]

So if Messi is injured, Dean Hammond is better?

No because Dean Hammond isn't playing either.

It's like me saying I'm better than Roger Federer at tennis but I don't play. It might be the case if I did play but I don't so it can't be.

Three of the players mentioned in the OP are currently only professional footballers because someone is still paying them, they aren't doing anything to show they are better than anyone.

 

[Topplayersleave]

So if Messi is injured, Dean Hammond is better?

I'd rather Messi injured and not playing than Dean Hammond in his prime

 

[bibbity bobbity boo]

I think Hogan and maybe Gallagher would have done well in our team. I don't know where the rumour about Abraham started but he is the kind of player that we wouldn't realistically be in for even if we were in the Premier League

It started in the Kop bogs, at least that's where I heard about it.

 

[mattbianco1]

No because Dean Hammond isn't playing either.

It's like me saying I'm better than Roger Federer at tennis but I don't play. It might be the case if I did play but I don't so it can't be.

Three of the players mentioned in the OP are currently only professional footballers because someone is still paying them, they aren't doing anything to show they are better than anyone.

Andy Murray is better than Jamie Murray. But Andy Murray pulled out of Wimbledon this year due to injury, that didn't mean that Jamie Murray was better than his brother.

Paul Coutts was injured all last season. John Lundstram and Lee Evans weren't, therefore, they must be better players right?

 

[Harrisblade]

are they , really
on what facts is that based

Their long and successful careers to date?