Hecky out

[Isaw Joeshaw]

I think there are a lot of unrealistic expectations on here.

We had a team which was almost embarrassingly bad last season. Avoided embarrassment due to....looks at notes....Hecky.
The, the team started with a big ticket manager who has success at this level and he got sacked because we were troubling the bottom. Along steps...looks at notes....Hecky with no money and the worst injury list I can remember and put us in contention for the play-offs. Spending no money and bringing in cheap cover.

I feel a lot of our fans have caught Wednesdayitis. Expecting us to play like Barcelona every game. Expecting us to beat every team in the league.

How can a manager have a plan B when he's not got any players for a plan A? Not been able to bring in his own players? I repeatedly see that all our players are crap and yet the manager is meant to walk the league with the same crap players? We have no good fit strikers and are meant to score goals?

A lot of people on here need to give their heads a good wobble or next think you know we'll be thrashing Bristol City 0:0.

Well said .

The idea that Hecky and co. should be expected to produce the same levels of performance and consistency as those of two months ago after the loss of Sharp , Basham , Bogle and McGoldrick is both unrealistic and totally unfair .

Add to that the poor form of our first choice wingbacks , who are crucial to our system , and it’s not hard to understand why we are struggling to get results .

Sometimes , the levels of expectation and entitlement expressed on here border on the ridiculous and are depressingly similar to those normally associated with those of our less fortunate neighbours .

“Ger a billionaire in , sack the board / chief exec / Hecky and co ./ get rid of most of the squad etc .etc . “
Interestingly , many of those expressing such extreme views are the same ones who were telling us not that long ago that we were relegation bound but now claim that being sixth in the league is a disaster .

To those so called supporters I say , get behind the club and the team and most of all , get real .
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[Drunk blade]

Quiz question Fallowfield. .....If the season started the day Hecky started we’d be in what position?

This every day of the week, if hecky started the season we would be comfortably top two now and on our way back to the prem

weve had a nightmare run with injuries to the extent that were having to rely on McBurnie to get us goals which isn't part of his game

 

[adiosmiamigo]

For formation we play we need full backs and forwards with pace and we don't have any so not sure what we were expecting tbh. We have been riding our luck at home. It was only a matter of time before someone best us

Lack of pace in the side has been a problem for ages.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Worst performance in years at the lane

Outsmarted by Paul Ince

Couldn’t motivate me to eat a fish supper

Drops our best midfielder player for a left back who’s 3ft tall

Hecky out Dyche in

Think it's only right this thread gets bumped back up seeing as no one else really wanted him gone?

Also with your shout out to the "McBurnie haters" thread I'm wanting your views on King Hecky now?

 

[Boxer Blade]

Think it's only right this thread gets bumped back up seeing as no one else really wanted him gone?

Also with your shout out to the "McBurnie haters" thread I'm wanting your views on King Hecky now?

Cheeky monkey

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

Think it's only right this thread gets bumped back up seeing as no one else really wanted him gone?

Also with your shout out to the "McBurnie haters" thread I'm wanting your views on King Hecky now?

My views are the exact same as they were then

Hecky is doing a good job and this is the best he has ever done in his managerial career to date

However I think if you put most of the managers in the league in charge of us you would find us at the top of the league

We are where we are because we have the best squad in the league by a mile not because of heckys tactical genius.

If we went up i would have nightmares about him been a premier league manager and i would get rid of him for a manager who is better

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

My views are the exact same as they were then

Compare and contrast.

Worst performance in years at the lane

Outsmarted by Paul Ince

Couldn’t motivate me to eat a fish supper

Drops our best midfielder player for a left back who’s 3ft tall

Hecky out Dyche in

 

[brownblade]

My views are the exact same as they were then

Hecky is doing a good job and this is the best he has ever done in his managerial career to date

However I think if you put most of the managers in the league in charge of us you would find us at the top of the league

We are where we are because we have the best squad in the league by a mile not because of heckys tactical genius.

If we went up i would have nightmares about him been a premier league manager and i would get rid of him for a manager who is better

Highly qualified, plenty of experience, understands the club and the city... Has a brilliant record as our manager. I'd be delighted for him to manage us in the Prem.

 

[CPB]

My views are the exact same as they were then

Hecky is doing a good job and this is the best he has ever done in his managerial career to date

However I think if you put most of the managers in the league in charge of us you would find us at the top of the league

We are where we are because we have the best squad in the league by a mile not because of heckys tactical genius.

If we went up i would have nightmares about him been a premier league manager and i would get rid of him for a manager who is better

Heckingbottom is still a young manager in the grand scheme of things.

This is his 4th job in management.
Did well at Barnsley that meant that Leeds cast their eyes on him and poached him.
Leeds until Bielsa were a basket case of a club, still are in some ways too. Turning Leeds into a force required a character and someone as radical as Bielsa.
Hibernian he did well initially but then started the following season poor.

I'll admit that when we removed Slav and appointed Hecky I was a bit apprehensive and also felt that this indicated a shift to radically cutting costs (Which is still partly true).
I also had question marks over what his methods would be in the full time role, I was concerned we weren't going to evolve a little. I think this season we are seeing a bit of evolution within the system we tend to play. It is no longer just 3-5-2. It's more often 3-4-2-1 / 3-4-3.

Other coaches in the game think he's decent, and also rate McCall as a good coach to have too.

I'm not getting ahead of myself, and lets hope we don't lose anyone big before end of Thurs but signs are promising.

If we make the PL he would deserve the chance to manage us, and actually under him as interim we picked up the odd win in a team that was pretty broken.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Ahh threads that remind us of the twatery of FallowfieldBlade .
Unfortunately I doubt the stupidity of it will permeate his thick skin.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

Highly qualified, plenty of experience, understands the club and the city... Has a brilliant record as our manager. I'd be delighted for him to manage us in the Prem.

Highly qualified ? How ?

plenty of experience ? How ?

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

Heckingbottom is still a young manager in the grand scheme of things.

This is his 4th job in management.
Did well at Barnsley that meant that Leeds cast their eyes on him and poached him.
Leeds until Bielsa were a basket case of a club, still are in some ways too. Turning Leeds into a force required a character and someone as radical as Bielsa.
Hibernian he did well initially but then started the following season poor.

I'll admit that when we removed Slav and appointed Hecky I was a bit apprehensive and also felt that this indicated a shift to radically cutting costs (Which is still partly true).
I also had question marks over what his methods would be in the full time role, I was concerned we weren't going to evolve a little. I think this season we are seeing a bit of evolution within the system we tend to play. It is no longer just 3-5-2. It's more often 3-4-2-1 / 3-4-3.

Other coaches in the game think he's decent, and also rate McCall as a good coach to have too.

I'm not getting ahead of myself, and lets hope we don't lose anyone big before end of Thurs but signs are promising.

If we make the PL he would deserve the chance to manage us, and actually under him as interim we picked up the odd win in a team that was pretty broken.

Im not slagging hecky off , im just saying he hasnt got any track record to show that he is good enough to take a team up if he does then ill be wrong

However if he cant get this team up then he may aswell pack up as a manager

 

[Ron_Justice]

This squad is, pretty much, the same as Hecky inherited from Wilder*. So, how come Wilder and Slav couldn't get a song out of them?

*If you think the additions are nothing to do with PH you're wilfully deluded. So, him being the manager has made us better.

From the horses mouth. PH is the reason the squad is improving

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

This squad is, pretty much, the same as Hecky inherited from Wilder*. So, how come Wilder and Slav couldn't get a song out of them?

*If you think the additions are nothing to do with PH you're wilfully deluded. So, him being the manager has made us better.

From the horses mouth. PH is the reason the squad is improving

Slav couldn't because he was telling the team to play in the most unsuitable possible way that this team can be told how to play

Wilder did because he took us from league one to 9th in the premier league then as happens with most successful managers the journey had ran its course however i would bet he would have took us up last season if him and the prince weren't fighting

Hecky is doing a good job but lets not get carried away he has achieved nothing of note in his career when he does I will say well done

But to compare him to Wilder and Slav is deluded he is nowhere near as good as those two

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

Im not slagging hecky off , im just saying he hasnt got any track record to show that he is good enough to take a team up if he does then ill be wrong

However if he cant get this team up then he may aswell pack up as a manager

How can you say it’s not tactics when the football is up there with Wilders best,who’s the tactician then,the tea lady ? Give him some credit

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

Slav couldn't because he was telling the team to play in the most unsuitable possible way that this team can be told how to play

Wilder did because he took us from league one to 9th in the premier league then as happens with most successful managers the journey had ran its course however i would bet he would have took us up last season if him and the prince weren't fighting

Hecky is doing a good job but lets not get carried away he has achieved nothing of note in his career when he does I will say well done

But to compare him to Wilder and Slav is deluded he is nowhere near as good as those two

You are a wilder supporter,it’s obvious, Slav was hopeless,hecky took the reins and reinvented the same side and nearly got us up,you are misguided because your ex wife has got a better new boyfriend in that scenario

 

[SouthStandGBlock]

Hecky's shit isn't he??

I've hated the late run to the Play off semi final last season. This season, the four straight home wins, and clean sheets are crap aren't they?? As is the free flowing football. Also disappointing to see how the players technique is progressing, and that team spirit and will to win is a real bastard. It's dogshit being top of the league.

It's a real hard watch ATM......

To the OP - what a end. Go and give your head a wobble

 

[Charlieblade]

I felt at the time that the PH appointment was the pragmatic choice of a non football board, faced with declining funds, and nothing to attract a proven top manager.
As it turns out, the choice of PH was a very good one.

Just listen to what recent players have had to say about the Hecky style of individual, and collective football manager skills.

The proof of this is seen in our current home form, and the non footballing board supporting the recruitment and management player choices financially. Our form and league position are quite genuine.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

How can you say it’s not tactics when the football is up there with Wilders best,who’s the tactician then,the tea lady ? Give him some credit

The tactics and how the team is set up are the tactics that wilder set up

Would you get credit if you copied someone elses homework ? No you wouldn't

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

The tactics and how the team is set up are the tactics that wilder set up

Would you get credit if you copied someone elses homework ? No you wouldn't

Look at it,different tactics throughout the games and rotation,as said give him some credit

 

[mattbianco1]

Think it's only right this thread gets bumped back up seeing as no one else really wanted him gone?

Also with your shout out to the "McBurnie haters" thread I'm wanting your views on King Hecky now?

How did you know about this thread if you only joined in July

 

[mattbianco1]

Slav couldn't because he was telling the team to play in the most unsuitable possible way that this team can be told how to play

Wilder did because he took us from league one to 9th in the premier league then as happens with most successful managers the journey had ran its course however i would bet he would have took us up last season if him and the prince weren't fighting

Hecky is doing a good job but lets not get carried away he has achieved nothing of note in his career when he does I will say well done

But to compare him to Wilder and Slav is deluded he is nowhere near as good as those two

Did Paul Heckingbottom steal your cat or something?

 

[brownblade]

Highly qualified ? How ?

plenty of experience ? How ?

He literally has the highest possible UEFA qualifications. That's how.

He's managed youth teams and first teams. I didn't say he has vast experience, but he has "plenty". He's proving he's got enough experience, with the points being accrued.

 

[boss hog]

I was and am a great fan of what Wilder did ,he gave us some great times life memories and I'll always be grateful. This is different Heckys doing a fantastic job improving the team, seamlessly finding the next bash and bringing in quality loans ,playing good football and unlike Wilder it's not all about him,it's not the same as it was but it's every bit as good if not better.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Think it's only right this thread gets bumped back up seeing as no one else really wanted him gone?

Also with your shout out to the "McBurnie haters" thread I'm wanting your views on King Hecky now?

To be fair I wasn't a fan either.
But he's done OK so far but nothing is won in August, and our away tactics still worry me. But if he does get us up I will be the first on here to apologise and admit I was wrong about him.

 

[Flumps]

To be fair I wasn't a fan either.
But he's done OK so far but nothing is won in August, and our away tactics still worry me. But if he does get us up I will be the first on here to apologise and admit I was wrong about him.

I don't think anyone can say anything other than fair enough when we talk about his capabilities as a PL manager, he has no track record and I largely agree that he's relatively inexperienced.

He did inherit one very deflated team however and despite the injuries etc he got them to push in to the play offs and let's be honest, very nearly in to the final. He's also made some good signings too.

If he gets us promoted this season, the lad deserves his chance as a PL manager and I'll have no problems giving it him.

 

[biggiesablade]

Just as Knill made Wilder, Mcall and Lester are playing a huge part in how we are playing and the attitude of the squad.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

The tactics and how the team is set up are the tactics that wilder set up

Would you get credit if you copied someone elses homework ? No you wouldn't

Genuine question. Do you watch the games?
Our tactics aren't like how Wilder set us up aside from the fact we play a central 3 at the back.

Wilder didn't play 1 up front, he didn't play 2 support players sat behind and we're not playing it with the same approach.
Hecky has positively evolved the formation Wilder's favoured which is something Chris didn't do. He fell back to a flat 3, albeit to protect against better sides, but no Wilder side was as expansive as the team going into the end of last season, nor the one which has started this season.
The season stats will play this out but at the moment this team is more exciting, quicker on the attack, more expansive and more offensive.

That's not to say it's more effective or even better but our approach and setup isn't the same as Wilder, aside from 3 at the back.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

Genuine question. Do you watch the games?
Our tactics aren't like how Wilder set us up aside from the fact we play a central 3 at the back.

Wilder didn't play 1 up front, he didn't play 2 support players sat behind and we're not playing it with the same approach.
Hecky has positively evolved the formation Wilder's favoured which is something Chris didn't do. He fell back to a flat 3, albeit to protect against better sides, but no Wilder side was as expansive as the team going into the end of last season, nor the one which has started this season.
The season stats will play this out but at the moment this team is more exciting, quicker on the attack, more expansive and more offensive.

That's not to say it's more effective or even better but our approach and setup isn't the same as Wilder, aside from 3 at the back.

"Our tactics aren't like how Wilder set us up aside from the fact we play a central 3 at the back."

We are playing 5-3-2 or a 5-2-1-2 or a 5-2-2-1 i have seen us play all of those formations under hecky and wilder

That's the exact same as what wilder did so hecky is copying the pl;aying style that wilder put in place at the club he even talked about getting the u23's playing the same way

We have signed Ahmedhodzic as a direct replacement for bash's overlapping runs which wilder created

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

"Our tactics aren't like how Wilder set us up aside from the fact we play a central 3 at the back."

We are playing 5-3-2 or a 5-2-1-2 or a 5-2-2-1 i have seen us play all of those formations under hecky and wilder

That's the exact same as what wilder did so hecky is copying the pl;aying style that wilder put in place at the club he even talked about getting the u23's playing the same way

We have signed Ahmedhodzic as a direct replacement for bash's overlapping runs which wilder created

That's not correct. It started with Wilder's 3-5-2 but the individual roles and tactical approach have evolved and isn't the same, if you think it is then there's not anywhere for this discussion to go.