HARRY MAGUIRE

[Westran]

I wonder how many sell on clause fees are dodged using 'undisclosed fee' and then a bit of creative accounting.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

70/30 split after costs..

unless they'll play for a flat fee and a decent ryder.

Not much difference between playing a gig and selling a footballer.

I could be wrong, I could be right..........

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

70/30 split after costs..

unless they'll play for a flat fee and a decent ryder.

Not much difference between playing a gig and selling a footballer.

I could be wrong, I could be right..........

God save the Queen!

 

[BushBlade]

Have we ever received a fee from a sell-on clause? Genuine question. The like of Morris, Mellis, Wayne Quinn etc we'd never have known given any % of a future fee would have translated to bugger all with those players. Naughton and Lowton are our only recent big young player sales to go for a reasonable fee afterwards, but I can't recall any cash going our way as a result.

Stephen Quinn? I heard we had a clause with Hull that they had to pay us something like £750k if they went up, because we'd virtually given him away.
Don't know if it's true or if we received it.

 

[Blade58]

SSN breaking: Hull reject second bid from Boro for Harry

FFS Hull, sell him and lets have some dosh.

 

[Champagneblade]

Can't see how this sale could possibly happen, unless he has a minimum release fee which is unlikely he insisted upon given he was joining a PL club at the time.

Hull has 8 contracted defenders. 2 are unknown youths, at least to me they are. Of the remaining 6, Dawson is out until November, Bruce and Odubayo until January.

It leaves only Robertson, Curtis Davies and Maguire as the only fit defenders. They will have to play ElHamoudy (sp?) at right back and he's been playing midfield for them. A midfield which has just lost Diame to Newcastle.

Let's not spend the money quite yet!

 

[BushBlade]

Can't see how this sale could possibly happen, unless he has a minimum release fee which is unlikely he insisted upon given he was joining a PL club at the time.

Hull has 8 contracted defenders. 2 are unknown youths, at least to me they are. Of the remaining 6, Dawson is out until November, Bruce and Odubayo until January.

It leaves only Robertson, Curtis Davies and Maguire as the only fit defenders. They will have to play ElHamoudy (sp?) at right back and he's been playing midfield for them. A midfield which has just lost Diame to Newcastle.

Let's not spend the money quite yet!

I'm surprised they haven't sold him. The owner's stopped giving a fuck and won't spend any money. Maybe he's waiting until they get a manager before a decision's made or maybe he's just trying to drive up the price.
If Boro think he's good enough for the PL, they have to pay near to what a PL defender costs these days. A young one with a potential resale value. Not sure what that is but I'd guess over £10m. If I were Hull I'd probably want around £8m.

 

[Rodley]

Have we ever received a fee from a sell-on clause? Genuine question. The like of Morris, Mellis, Wayne Quinn etc we'd never have known given any % of a future fee would have translated to bugger all with those players. Naughton and Lowton are our only recent big young player sales to go for a reasonable fee afterwards, but I can't recall any cash going our way as a result.

Got one for Naughton.

 

[Rodley]

I wonder how many sell on clause fees are dodged using 'undisclosed fee' and then a bit of creative accounting.

None I would have thought, unless you want to be in breach of contract and taken to court.

 

[Rodley]

Can't see how this sale could possibly happen, unless he has a minimum release fee which is unlikely he insisted upon given he was joining a PL club at the time.

Hull has 8 contracted defenders. 2 are unknown youths, at least to me they are. Of the remaining 6, Dawson is out until November, Bruce and Odubayo until January.

It leaves only Robertson, Curtis Davies and Maguire as the only fit defenders. They will have to play ElHamoudy (sp?) at right back and he's been playing midfield for them. A midfield which has just lost Diame to Newcastle.

Let's not spend the money quite yet!

He's pulling his money out is the Egyptian old boy. Toys are out of the pram.

 

[tyneblade]

He's pulling his money out is the Egyptian old boy.

Such a shame that he waited until the start of this season.

 

[Jonboy60]

I'm surprised they haven't sold him. The owner's stopped giving a fuck and won't spend any money. Maybe he's waiting until they get a manager before a decision's made or maybe he's just trying to drive up the price.
If Boro think he's good enough for the PL, they have to pay near to what a PL defender costs these days. A young one with a potential resale value. Not sure what that is but I'd guess over £10m. If I were Hull I'd probably want around £8m.

Have we got a sell on clause, on top of a sell on clause, if Middlesbrough buy, then sell at a later date.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Got one for Naughton.

Do we know what it was? At the back of my mind is a fans forum where McCabe potentially said there were no sell-ons for either Kyles...

 

[Rodley]

Do we know what it was? At the back of my mind is a fans forum where McCabe potentially said there were no sell-ons for either Kyles...

10-15% I think.

 

[Groucho Blade]

My memory is a bit hazy but, as far as I can remember, McCabe said there were sell-on clauses, Levy said there weren't. I think Levy won. Or was it that they didn't have to pay the sell-on clause because they sold Naughton for no profit?? Either way I don't think we got anything when Spurs sold Naughton.

And wasn't there a Spurs fan on here saying that Levy never pays a sell-on clause?

 

[Liaminho9]

Most sell on clauses are a percentage of profit. If we sold a player for £1m with a 25% clause, and he was then sold for £2m, we would receive £250K NOT £500K.

 

[tyneblade]

I think it was decided that the bulk of the joint fee for the Kyles was spent on Naughton, and because of that there was no profit when he was sold. It follows that if Walker is sold we will make something on the profit on the balance over his share of the fee. The problem is that i can Walker spending the bulk of his career there and ending up released, possibly back to us. It is an issue when you sell players to rich clubs, if they are good the new club will never be pressed to sell and the sell on clause doesn't come into play. In that light the Hull deal was a good one.

 

[Ricky]

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko 2h2 hours ago
Middlesbrough. Back in for Maguire. 7m all in. Hull still not playing ball.

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This would be a real boost if it happens. We apparently have a 15%(?) sell on clause. So potentially over £1m for us.

Hull are said to be offering him a new contract though, hopefully he'll reject it and push for the move.

Knowing our luck though he'll either move on deadline day when we've got no time to do anything with the money or even worse leave on a free transfer next summer.

 

[Slim Man]

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko 2h2 hours ago
Middlesbrough. Back in for Maguire. 7m all in. Hull still not playing ball.

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This would be a real boost if it happens. We apparently have a 15%(?) sell on clause. So potentially over £1m for us.

Hull are said to be offering him a new contract though, hopefully he'll reject it and push for the move.

Knowing our luck though he'll either move on deadline day when we've got no time to do anything with the money or even worse leave on a free transfer next summer.

We'll do nowt with the money anyway, I've stopped wondering what we might do with any possible income. McCabe just trousers the fucker anyway.

 

[Bladesman]

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko 2h2 hours ago
Middlesbrough. Back in for Maguire. 7m all in. Hull still not playing ball.

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This would be a real boost if it happens. We apparently have a 15%(?) sell on clause. So potentially over £1m for us.

Hull are said to be offering him a new contract though, hopefully he'll reject it and push for the move.

Knowing our luck though he'll either move on deadline day when we've got no time to do anything with the money or even worse leave on a free transfer next summer.

 

[Ricky]

We'll do nowt with the money anyway, I've stopped wondering what we might do with any possible income. McCabe just trousers the fucker anyway.

I still like to pretend.

 

[Blade56]

Knowing our luck though he'll either move on deadline day when we've got no time to do anything with the money or even worse leave on a free transfer next summer.

Ideal situation for McCabe. No doubt the old it's avaiable for the manager int early days of August then forgotten or used to fund 9incoming new players at start of season.

Same old

 

[Slim Man]

I still like to pretend.

The only reason I still play FM now and again is because on that you actually get a budget to play with. It helps me to get over the disappointment of us not signing Sam Morsy, by signing Sam Morsy. Sigh.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

He wants the move, ITK.

 

[Ricky]

He wants the move, ITK.

pal, wear u erd this?

 

[sitwell]

Twitter says hes signing for Fleetwood Town.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

pal, wear u erd this?

U wot m8?

 

[TJB.]

He wants the move, ITK.

 

[David Lee's first touch]

1.7 mill for che stupid business and if this happens 1.05 mill for harry that's 2.75Mil, plus massive savings on wages. We could put a reyt side together out of that but we won't

 

[The Crab]

The only reason I still play FM now and again is because on that you actually get a budget to play with. It helps me to get over the disappointment of us not signing Sam Morsy, by signing Sam Morsy. Sigh.

New one due out in November, can't wait to see how shite we are in that one