Incoming? Harlee Dean

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Esablade said:
I'm guessing he was some way down the list if he only knew last week, probably sounded out last week when it was obvious Dean ( or whoever) wasn't coming and got a call Sat/Sunday after the game...im still hoping we've got another CB coming in...or that Kennedy makes s miraculous recovery...
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Forget the "or" bit. We need someone significantly bigger and better than small, unproven Terry Kennedy.

Sorry....
 

Pinchy said:
Forget the "or" bit. We need someone significantly bigger and better than small, unproven Terry Kennedy.

Sorry....
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The size isn't the issue, it's the aggression that is. Kennedy isn't lacking in the slightest. If Kennedy could stay fit, I would be more than happy to go into the season with Edgar/Kennedy as our starting pair.
 
Caseh said:
The size isn't the issue, it's the aggression that is. Kennedy isn't lacking in the slightest. If Kennedy could stay fit, I would be more than happy to go into the season with Edgar/Kennedy as our starting pair.
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Of course it's an issue. He's playing at centre-half. Centre-halves have to compete with the opposition giants, particularly at set-pieces. If you're marking a bloke four inches taller than you then you're at an immediate disadvantage. It's self-evident.

People will now, as night follows day, remind me of the tiny minority of small centre-halves who have overcome the height problem thanks to exceptional talent. None of them play in League One in 2015 and all of them were a great deal more gifted than Terry Kennedy.

By all means, support your Bladey favourite but you don't assist your case by ignoring an axiomatic truth.
 
Pinchy said:
Of course it's an issue. He's playing at centre-half. Centre-halves have to compete with the opposition giants, particularly at set-pieces. If you're marking a bloke four inches taller than you then you're at an immediate disadvantage. It's self-evident.

People will now, as night follows day, remind me of the tiny minority of small centre-halves who have overcome the height problem thanks to exceptional talent. None of them play in League One in 2015 and all of them were a great deal more gifted than Terry Kennedy.

By all means, support your Bladey favourite but you don't assist your case by ignoring an axiomatic truth.
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Sorry, but if you haven't seen Terry Kennedy dominate opposition larger than himself and win almost everything in the air then you haven't been watching very closely. When he was fit he was our best centre half last season. It's a shame we'll never get to see him regularly
 
Pinchy said:
Of course it's an issue. He's playing at centre-half. Centre-halves have to compete with the opposition giants, particularly at set-pieces. If you're marking a bloke four inches taller than you then you're at an immediate disadvantage. It's self-evident.

People will now, as night follows day, remind me of the tiny minority of small centre-halves who have overcome the height problem thanks to exceptional talent. None of them play in League One in 2015 and all of them were a great deal more gifted than Terry Kennedy.

By all means, support your Bladey favourite but you don't assist your case by ignoring an axiomatic truth.
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Your argument was more than respectable until you had to shoehorn the "Bladey blade" bull into it. I don't even think Kennedy is that great of a player. He has a lot of fight and aggression, which is something that we are completely lacking, sadly. Give me a Michael Turner or Harlee Dean any day. I just know that Kennedy would be a vast improvement on what we currently have, and I also think we looked better last season when he was involved in matches.

I apologise profusely for having a different opinion to you, and for obviously only following my Bladey bladeness, I will try my utmost to improve in the future.

Best regards
Bladey blade blade
 
bladesmanluke said:
Sorry, but if you haven't seen Terry Kennedy dominate opposition larger than himself and win almost everything in the air then you haven't been watching very closely. When he was fit he was our best centre half last season. It's a shame we'll never get to see him regularly
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Oh I've been watching closely alright. Objectively rather than selectively. I've seen the commitment and aggression. I've also seen the naivety and basic errors. He certainly doesn't "win everything" in the air. That's the same sort of wishful thinking that imagines Little Louis can dominate hardened pros in League One.

Other uncomfortable truths are available upon request....
 
Pinchy said:
Oh I've been watching closely alright. Objectively rather than selectively. I've seen the commitment and aggression. I've also seen the naivety and basic errors. He certainly doesn't "win everything" in the air. That's the same sort of wishful thinking that imagines Little Louis can dominate hardened pros in League One.

Other uncomfortable truths are available upon request....
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I'm with you all the way on Reed and Long, but once again I have to point out to you our league record in Kennedy's 10 appearances last season:

Won: 6
Drew: 3
Lost: 1

There don't appear to have been a lot of basic errors leading to lost points.

Plus the victories include wins over Bristol City, Rochdale, Swindon and Preston. The only defeat was 1-0 at MK Dons.

Kennedy is the best central defender on our books (with the possible exception of Edgar).

It's probably moot as I suspect he won't be fit any time soon.
 
Revolution said:
I'm with you all the way on Reed and Long, but once again I have to point out to you our league record in Kennedy's 10 appearances last season:

Won: 6
Drew: 3
Lost: 1

There don't appear to have been a lot of basic errors leading to lost points.

Plus the victories include wins over Bristol City, Rochdale, Swindon and Preston. The only defeat was 1-0 at MK Dons.

Kennedy is the best central defender on our books (with the possible exception of Edgar).

It's probably moot as I suspect he won't be fit any time soon.
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He may be the best; he may not. In either case being the best on our books is hardly a glowing reference.

We are rightly clamouring for two big, powerful centre-backs. There is a reason why teams at every level employ athletic giants at centre-back. No-one with any sense would be making a case for us to sign Kennedy if he wasn't already here. It's the usual starry-eyed sentimentality, I'm afraid.
 
Pinchy said:
Oh I've been watching closely alright. Objectively rather than selectively. I've seen the commitment and aggression. I've also seen the naivety and basic errors. He certainly doesn't "win everything" in the air. That's the same sort of wishful thinking that imagines Little Louis can dominate hardened pros in League One.

Other uncomfortable truths are available upon request....
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You're spot on with Reed. Way out on Kennedy though, he's been our best centre half for a while now whilst he's been fit. The new bloke may be able to challenge him for that status mind. Nothing takes away from the fact that another CB and a goalkeeper is needed as a bare minimum now though.
 
Pinchy said:
He may be the best; he may not. In either case being the best on our books is hardly a glowing reference.

We are rightly clamouring for two big, powerful centre-backs. There is a reason why teams at every level employ athletic giants at centre-back. No-one with any sense would be making a case for us to sign Kennedy if he wasn't already here. It's the usual starry-eyed sentimentality, I'm afraid.
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Well, that's a different point. Are there better centre halves than Kennedy out there that we could try to sign? Yes, clearly.

But if we do not sign anyone else, is he better than, and should he okay instead of, Collins or McEverley? Again, yes.
 
Terry Kennedy has made a total of just 14 (+4 sub) league appearances and 2 (+1 sub) FA Cup appearances for the Blades since making his debut in May 2011 - his injury record is much, much worse than James Wallace 69 (+9 sub) in the same period and who is widely regarded as a crock !
Terry Kennedy may have some talent, but unfortunately for both the lad and the club he can't string two games together without getting injured !
 
Fiery Blade said:
Terry Kennedy has made a total of just 14 (+4 sub) league appearances and 2 (+1 sub) FA Cup appearances for the Blades since making his debut in May 2011 - his injury record is much, much worse than James Wallace 69 (+9 sub) in the same period and who is widely regarded as a crock !
Terry Kennedy may have some talent, but unfortunately for both the lad and the club he can't string two games together without getting injured !
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That's not very fair. Kennedy was only ever used in end of season games or as cover until the start of this year. We had Maguire and Collins for 3 years running and no need to use him.

His injury record is a major concern, but it's been a problem for us since February this year.
 
Revolution said:
That's not very fair. Kennedy was only ever used in end of season games or as cover until the start of this year. We had Maguire and Collins for 3 years running and no need to use him.

His injury record is a major concern, but it's been a problem for us since February this year.
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Might not be fair Rev but those are the facts !
Similar age as Harry yet couldn't dislodge Calamity Collins from the side - then perhaps he is not as good as everyone thinks !
Last season he had a golden opportunity - Sold Maguire, Released Butler, Froze out Calamity,and we used McEveley, Brayford, Alcock, Basham at Centre Back but Kennedy could only figure in 9 + 2 sub games despite (apart from Brayford) looking the best equipped centre back - He has a major problem with fitness !
 

He has exactly the same issue as Ledley King had throughout his career. Another quality centre back gone to waste. Pinchy, Terry Kennedy is a better centre half than Jay McEveley. He's a better centre half than Neil Collins and he's a better centre half than John Brayford in the middle. Unfortunately we cannot rely on him so yes we need to sign another.
 
Keep an eye on the opposition this season. Watch Premiership and Championship games on TV.

Count the number of centre-backs under six feet tall.

Reflect.
 
Pinchy said:
Keep an eye on the opposition this season. Watch Premiership and Campionship games on TV.

Count the number of centre-backs under six feet tall.

Reflect.
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You're preaching to the converted. Everyone who's responded to you on this seems to take your point. The point I and others are making is, if fit, Kennedy is better than other options we have now.

I realise that acknowledging this lessens the opportunity to make snide remarks, but each to their own.
 
bladesmanluke said:
He has exactly the same issue as Ledley King had throughout his career. Another quality centre back gone to waste. Pinchy, Terry Kennedy is a better centre half than Jay McEveley. He's a better centre half than Neil Collins and he's a better centre half than John Brayford in the middle. Unfortunately we cannot rely on him so yes we need to sign another.
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Could we not just glue Kennedy's knees back together or something?
 
Dean not playing tonight and Brentford are 3-0 down to Oxford at home. Can't see them selling him in a hurry!
 
AnonymousBlade1995 said:
its time to release Kennedy harsh but he will never have a career in football i feel for him but we are not a charity cut him loose
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He'll be on peanuts, and while this is clearly quite a make or break season for him, I would hardly say we're breaking the bank by keeping him on our books.
 
Jonathan Buchan ‏@jonathanbuchan 32 mins32 minutes ago
For those asking about Harlee Dean rumours Adkins tells me they have categorically shown no interest in him #SUFC #twitterblades
 

AlanWrightsShinyHead said:
Jonathan Buchan ‏@jonathanbuchan 32 mins32 minutes ago
For those asking about Harlee Dean rumours Adkins tells me they have categorically shown no interest in him #SUFC #twitterblades
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9 pages in and it turns out we were never interested in the bugger!
 
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