Outgoing? Hamer

[NathTheBlade]

Aye good shout:

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Once fee agreed, he will be going back to England

 

[calcalcal]

You have to worry for the promoted clubs…they need to buy proven premier league players. Not done too much business yet, have they?

Bolton have signed several players i believe
Lincoln look in dire straits
Cardiff, not been following them but good pissup and 3 points please

 

[ComedyClub]

If he stays it makes our transfer business simple - we won't need any more significant signings after Souttar and Phillips

If he leaves we'll have to sign at least one player to replace him. How much will they cost? Will they be a waste of money?

Keeping him and losing him for free really won't lose us that much money, effectively. Not with the level of fee in question

Keeping him might be worth about 6 league positions if he has a decent season. We can be a solid team who always carry a threat. Without him, we're undercooked offensively

If we sign a dynamic midfielder that can last longer than 60 minutes, and isn’t missing for three games a season due to petulance, it’s a job well done.

 

[Ricardo Mantelban]

Bolton have signed several players i believe
Lincoln look in dire straits
Cardiff, not been following them but good pissup and 3 points please

He’s on about Cov etc gone to the prem.

 

[Ron_Justice]

Once fee agreed, he will be going back to England

One would indeed follow the other.

 

[Revolution]

Ultimately every team, other than Real Madrid, sells their best players.

Do they replace them with Joe Rothwell?

Stupid argument.

 

[calcalcal]

He’s on about Cov etc gone to the prem.

Oh

Yeah all 3 are cooked straight back down

 

[Jan Age]

Like most of us on here, I like Gus, he is that maverick type of player who can create something from nothing and pull something out of the bag, just when we need it.

However, like all of us, he isn't getting any younger, it sounds like he is not interested in a new contract and this might be his last crack at the Premier League (if the Coventry story is true).

So rather than having someone here who doesn't want to be (not saying he won't try, or down tools or anything) maybe best to get someone else in?

If agree if we can come to an arrangement that suits both clubs and gives us options to replace with fresher hungrier fitter creative types then I’m all for it.

 

[Revolution]

A few thoughts cross my mind...
1. We're unbalanced as a team with both Hamer and O'Hare being shoe-horned in
2. It doesn't seem to occur to CW that he could rotate them in the No.10 position, or he's been unable to recruit a proper left-winger hence needs must
3. Some of our best football last season was, if I remember correctly, when Hamer was injured
4. Hamer is always going to get suspended at some point
5. Hamer seems unable to last 90 minutes
6. O'Hare is almost always available and runs his socks off for 90+ minutes

I know about Hamer's creativity (though it tends to happen in "moments"), but if we can use the proceeds from his sale to buy a proper left-winger, I think we'd be a better team.

Yeh, 16 moments. 4 goals and 12 assists.

Is a proper left winger going to replicate that?

 

[jimmymuir]

Like Ndiaye, he's one of those technically gifted and supremely talented players that can create something out of nothing. If we are to stand any chance of play-offs this season, losing Gus would be an almighty blow. He's by far and away our best player. Many on here don't think he was at his best last season, and yet he still had the most assists in the division. Yes, his petulance and carrying a bit more timber than he should irks some, but he wouldn't be here if he was ultra-disciplined. He's been a joy to watch over three seasons and I'd be gutted if we receive less than £10m.

 

[Blades1971]

I believe in the old adage. Don't go back, either player or manager. It invariably doesn't work.
Oops sorry I had forgot about Wilder

 

[Bladesman]

Danny says…

 

[Drachblade]

Could’ve sworn the we owe them money was put to bed?

 

[mattbianco1]

Selling our best creative player to replace him with expensive, injury prone defensive players is about a damning statement as you can make about the current set up at the club.

If Philips is the replacement we need to be very worried.

There's absolutely no way that Phillips is Hamer's replacement.

We (the club and the fans) have expected for months that Hamer (& Peck) may be leaving the club this window. This hasn't crept up on any of us.
It's how the club respond to his sale that is key.

For arguments sake if he left for £5m but we got say McAtee in on loan - is that so bad?*
If we got a left-sided version of Romelle Donovan in as his replacement - a raw youngster trying to play regular professional football - i think that would go down like a lead balloon.

*I understand they play different positions... it's an analogy. What i mean is - if this allows a high profile Premier League loan.

 

[Bladesman]

View attachment 241107Could’ve sworn the we owe them money was put to bed?

El Accounto says no truth in us owing Coventry on original fee. Maybe minor add-on clauses for appearances.

 

[Cheeky Blade]

A few thoughts cross my mind...
1. We're unbalanced as a team with both Hamer and O'Hare being shoe-horned in
2. It doesn't seem to occur to CW that he could rotate them in the No.10 position, or he's been unable to recruit a proper left-winger hence needs must
3. Some of our best football last season was, if I remember correctly, when Hamer was injured
4. Hamer is always going to get suspended at some point
5. Hamer seems unable to last 90 minutes
6. O'Hare is almost always available and runs his socks off for 90+ minutes

I know about Hamer's creativity (though it tends to happen in "moments"), but if we can use the proceeds from his sale to buy a proper left-winger, I think we'd be a better team.

Yes.

The replacement’ is probably already at the club in O’Hare.

 

[Drachblade]

Yeah thought I’d seen something like that, cheers mate

El Accounto says no truth in us owing Coventry on original fee. Maybe minor add-on clauses for appearances.

 

[Uganda Blade]

Yeh, 16 moments. 4 goals and 12 assists.

Is a proper left winger going to replicate that?

I suspect a properly balanced team might replicate that...

 

[cooperblade]

El Accounto says no truth in us owing Coventry on original fee. Maybe minor add-on clauses for appearances.

So he's saying his 'mate' paid his bit but the new owners might not have paid their bit?

Wouldn't trust anything that he said, just another social media attention-seeker.

 

[Paris_Blade]

No intel and I want him around BUT the thought of current Hamer in the Prem does tickle me

He'll be out of shape on the global stage, pinging passes like the former pro in a 5 aside game

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

He still has to train, the discussions are above him at club level.

That's the thing. He has to be training somewhere, just as Sander and Illy were during that ill-fated pre-season.

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

Wouldn't trust anything that he said, just another social media attention-seeker

Yet most still feed his ego.

 

[mattbianco1]

To add to the above. Potential left-sided players from the Championship last season:

• Mehmeti, Philogene & Clarke (Ipswich) - will any be available on loan?
• Mason-Clarke & Wright (Coventry) - will either be available on loan as part of the deal?
• Azeez (Millwall) - with Hamer money, can we tempt a purchase? Can play right or left
• Thomas (Stoke) - would love him. Looks like West Ham sniffing at >£10m
• Saito & Chair (QPR) - permanent with Hamer money?
• Murphy (Portsmouth) - had 2 great seasons for Pompey
• BBD (Southampton) - most like of the lot. Would like him competing with Hamer, not replacing
• Johnston (WBA) - Wilder wanted him before

Chakvetadze - Would have been an ideal replacement. Gone to Udinese for ~£5m

Potential PL loans?? Chelsea or Man City must have some available. Mayenda or Mundle at Sunderland maybe?

 

[mattbianco1]

So he's saying his 'mate' paid his bit but the new owners might not have paid their bit?

Wouldn't trust anything that he said, just another social media attention-seeker.

No, he could be saying that we owe money based on appearances. Who knows, we may have to pay an instalment if he plays 125 games for example (he's played 123 for us)

 

[Addison]

Being realistic Hamer was always going to go this season. 1 Year left on his contract. SISU along with Weeds ( Hamer has the same agent as Gnoto) and Feyenoord, are the likely destinations.

Its not him going thats the issue for me its the inabiltiy of our recruitment team to get the best deal for SUFC. They consistently undersell outgoings Brooks being the latest give away. For that reason if it has to be SISU then it would be in the best interests of the Club if players plus cash was agreed.

As for the suggestion we will get no more than £5 million for him then it would be in our best interests to let him run down his contract and go for it this season.

SISU have a number of playes that would boost our current threadbare squad. Ellis isnt one of them for me.

Matt Grimes who we could offer the captaincy to, Woolfenden, Sakamoto, who only has 1 year left on his contract and plays wide left are all possible options. Its our inability to get a deal across the line that concerns me the most.

Grimes is a long shot as he's just captained SISU into the EPL. CW has been a long time admirer. If we did get him it may put to bed the financial and injury risk folly of going for Phillips.

 

[Revolution]

I suspect a properly balanced team might replicate that...

With the players currently on the books?

 

[Hillsboro Blade]

The share price in Sheffield Kebab Shops and Chip Holes on London Road dipped by 25% on the opening on Wall Street this morning.

 

[cooperblade]

No, he could be saying that we owe money based on appearances. Who knows, we may have to pay an instalment if he plays 125 games for example (he's played 123 for us)

Yeah I get that but (a) I don't think he knows and (b) he's only saying it because it suits his agenda of Prince Good, New Owners Bad.

 

[brownblade]

Yes.

The replacement’ is probably already at the club in O’Hare.

That's kind of fine if we're saying Hamer would have been no10 and O'Hare plays at no10 instead, but who's the competition/backup/rotation for O'Hare...? We've not got anyone in to play LW either - where Gus primarily played under Wilder.

 

[Bladesman]

So he's saying his 'mate' paid his bit but the new owners might not have paid their bit?

Wouldn't trust anything that he said, just another social media attention-seeker.

In defence of Darren he’s said more than once that the transfer fee for Hamer is settled.

He’s only mentioned add-ons because people keep asking what could be owed.

Appearance fees if they were/are owed are quite minor amounts.