Outgoing? Hamer

[Snowflake]

In what world is losing your best player with zero hope for a like-for-like replacement not a disaster? Feel for Selles. Wouldn’t be in this position if Wilder didn’t spectacularly bottle last season.

In a world where the transfer fee enables the club to strengthen the squad rather than trying a direct replacement.

 

[Snowflake]

Ideal scenario for me: Gus loves it here and really likes Selles, so agrees a new 5 year contract with another year option.

Becomes club captain in 2026 after leading us to the league title.

Starts to become a rotation option by 2028/29 as our Premier League squad swells with top class players, whilst we suckle at the corporate teat.

Gus decides to legally change his name to "Harmer", announcing his definitive choice of pronunciation across all of social medias.

Or something like that. Hope we keep him, he's got quality that's very hard to buy at our level.

Does this remind me of an Everley brothers song ?

 

[Pintor75]

They play in the Eredivisie, he would be a starter, it isn’t a strong league. They will be cannon fodder in the Champions League.

Guess he'll have to be satisfied with the early round exits

 

[Uganda Blade]

Guess he'll have to be satisfied with the early round exits

PSV are in the league phase, not the qualifying rounds.

 

[Houston_Blade]

If PSV have won the title and are champions league bound, why are they wanting a championship player, answer to be a squad player, Gus isn't going to be a first choice, hardly going to help his Brazil ambitions stuck on the bench. wages might be better admittedly, but he seems to love playing and he's our star player at the lane and what better than to take us to the Premier League

They play in a league where Michael Higdon was considered a ‘top striker’. It’s like Scotland but with taller fans.

 

[Bramhall Lane blade]

Lose hamer it easily is the biggest blow the thing is the owners have done sweet fa to show ambition

Spunked £10 on Cannon,what kind of ambition do you mean?

 

[AWetFlannel]

No, he's not.

Wilder was a system man. Pick a system and formation and every player must play to it, even if it means cramming square pegs into round holes. It doesn't matter what your strengths are, all decisions are made for you. If scenario A happens, do this. If scenario B happens, do this. It was predictable robotic football, like Didsy recently commented about. Win, win, win even if it means players are bang average and don't develop.

Selles is about finding a system that plays to his players strengths and developing them in their roles so that they play with instincts and to their strengths. Hence why so many players kept the ball against York and ran with it, instead of pass, pass, pass boring Subbuteo football. Granted it was only against York, but Marsh played really well playing his natural game, the same as he's been doing for the development team for the last two seasons. O'Hare stood out as he loves to run with the ball, something players seldom did under Wilder. Brooks looked effective on the wing instead of lost, because he could run and take on players.

Did Wilder not develop our 3-4-1-2 around players like Basham, Duffy and Freeman? Will this tiresome bullshit never end?

 

[Nick Jansky]

Did Wilder not develop our 3-4-1-2 around players like Basham, Duffy and Freeman? Will this tiresome bullshit never end?

It was such a rigid system that it became difficult to fit new players into it.

 

[AWetFlannel]

It was such a rigid system that it became difficult to fit new players into it.

But also enabled the players we had to play way, way above their natural level, leading to our richest spell of success in a generation. It was absolutely not square pegs in round holes, it was the opposite. Every player was playing in a position perfectly tailored for them.

Not that there's anything wrong with it, but Selles played Cannon and One as wingers and a CB at RB. It's just streams of "Wilder did all the bad things, Selles does all the good things". Wilder played boring football, Wilder put square pegs in round holes, Wilder doesn't develop players, Wilder makes them robots, Wilder tells players not to run with the ball.

It's a crock of shit. Can we just praise Selles without having to constantly denegrate Wilder in the process?

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

Did Wilder not develop our 3-4-1-2 around players like Basham, Duffy and Freeman? Will this tiresome bullshit never end?

Yes, in 2016, but he didn't last season. So can we stop the bringing up Wilder's previous successes from years ago tiresome bullshit while we're at it. Your argument is based on a team from 9 years ago. It's 2025.

 

[AWetFlannel]

Yes, in 2016, but he didn't last season. So can we stop the bringing up Wilder's previous successes from years ago tiresome bullshit while we're at it. Your argument is based on a team from 9 years ago. It's 2025.

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Last season he changed the formation more than once. The season before he changed our formation multiple times. You're talking shit.

 

[Nick Jansky]

But also enabled the players we had to play way, way above their natural level, leading to our richest spell of success in a generation. It was absolutely not square pegs in round holes, it was the opposite. Every player was playing in a position perfectly tailored for them.

Not that there's anything wrong with it, but Selles played Cannon and One as wingers and a CB at RB. It's just streams of "Wilder did all the bad things, Selles does all the good things". Wilder played boring football, Wilder put square pegs in round holes, Wilder doesn't develop players, Wilder makes them robots, Wilder tells players not to run with the ball.

It's a crock of shit. Can we just praise Selles without having to constantly denegrate Wilder in the process?

You think it’s a crock of shit. That does not, in any way, make it a crock of shit.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

It was such a rigid system that it became difficult to fit new players into it.

Hence why the arrival of Carruthers and Leonard didn't work, nor the majority of the 13 players he signed in our first season in the Premier League.

 

[AWetFlannel]

You think it’s a crock of shit. That does not, in any way, make it a crock of shit.

I apologise profusely. It's a crock of shit in my opinion. Thank god we cleared that up.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I apologise profusely. It's a crock of shit in my opinion. Thank god we cleared that up.

Indeed. Referring to something as a crock of shit is usually the sign of a lost argument.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

Last season he changed the formation more than once. The season before he changed our formation multiple times. You're talking shit.

Regardless you've completely missed the point I was making, which isn't the first time.

My point in brief is that Wilder's system was based on results and winning, Selles appears to be about maximising each players individual strengths and allowing them to shine by letting them play their natural game within a system.

 

[Uganda Blade]

Regardless you've completely missed the point I was making, which isn't the first time.

My point in brief is that Wilder's system was based on results and winning, Selles appears to be about maximising each players individual strengths and allowing them to shine by letting them play their natural game within a system.

Hasn't Selles referred to it as organised chaos?