Outgoing? Hamer

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ancientblade said:
just a pity those 2 didnt see much of the ball booker was constantly going over there head lol absolutely loved dave bassett as manager but hated the tactics although i had been brought up spoilt on the john harris academy of football anyway back to hamer him and arblaster will be the best midfield 2 in the championship this season i think hes staying utb ftp ⚔️⚔️⚔️
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Agree 100% on the tactics, it was absolutely shite to watch especially for those who grew up with John Harris as manager.
 
Classof85 said:
Lets be right, he has a release clause, just because a team meets it doesnt mean he has to accept their contract offer. He may think the plan with new owners is a good opportunity and want to stay.
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Any team on the planet with £20 million to spend on a player, no matter who it is will pay him more than United.

You'd think that a club putting a relatively low sell on clause, and it is a low sell on clause when you compare what we paid for him would have at least given him a salary that would make him think about it.

If the clause is met, he's gone, simple as that, and sadly this is feeling a bit like one of those August 8th sales that leaves the club with its ready made excuses.

Well, what can you do?

We tried to keep him

When the big clubs come calling

It also enables United to trouser the money and hope everyone just forgets about it
 
JJBlade said:
Any team on the planet with £20 million to spend on a player, no matter who it is will pay him more than United.

You'd think that a club putting a relatively low sell on clause, and it is a low sell on clause when you compare what we paid for him would have at least given him a salary that would make him think about it.

If the clause is met, he's gone, simple as that, and sadly this is feeling a bit like one of those August 8th sales that leaves the club with its ready made excuses.

Well, what can you do?

We tried to keep him

When the big clubs come calling

It also enables United to trouser the money and hope everyone just forgets about it
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The club doesn't put a "relatively low sell on clause". It is negotiated between player and club. If not satisfactory to player he won't sign in the first place.
What is his release fee and his wage by the way? You imply that you know.
 
JJBlade said:
Any team on the planet with £20 million to spend on a player, no matter who it is will pay him more than United.

You'd think that a club putting a relatively low sell on clause, and it is a low sell on clause when you compare what we paid for him would have at least given him a salary that would make him think about it.

If the clause is met, he's gone, simple as that, and sadly this is feeling a bit like one of those August 8th sales that leaves the club with its ready made excuses.

Well, what can you do?

We tried to keep him

When the big clubs come calling

It also enables United to trouser the money and hope everyone just forgets about it
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We signed him for a reported £15m. The release clause will be MINIMUM £15m if we're relegated. But realistically even his agent would likely have been fine with £20m. So if we say £20m is the fee, that's a sizeable signing even for a mid-Prem team. They'd want a trusted starter.

I think Hamer is probably top 3 best players in the Championship... But did his all round game last season scream £20m Prem midfielder that starts regularly in loads of Prem teams?

I'm not sure what I think the answer is, but I know he got plenty of criticism at times on this forum. Giving ball away and not great in defensive areas? Would all be on the scout reports.

So, I'm just saying, it's not definite he'll leave. Would probably take an above average offer (i e. maybe not a Prem relegation battling team). Especially if he's apparently such good mates with O'Hare - also I think someone said his son recently started school here.
 
WORKSOPBLADE said:
Really hope to see him play today!🤞
JJBlade said:
Any team on the planet with £20 million to spend on a player, no matter who it is will pay him more than United.

You'd think that a club putting a relatively low sell on clause, and it is a low sell on clause when you compare what we paid for him would have at least given him a salary that would make him think about it.

If the clause is met, he's gone, simple as that, and sadly this is feeling a bit like one of those August 8th sales that leaves the club with its ready made excuses.

Well, what can you do?

We tried to keep him

When the big clubs come calling

It also enables United to trouser the money and hope everyone just forgets about it
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what’s stopping utd offering him increased terms if someone matches his release clause, if we wan’t to keep him, obviously not going to offer him increased terms before anyone matches it.
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Valley Blade said:
The club doesn't put a "relatively low sell on clause". It is negotiated between player and club. If not satisfactory to player he won't sign in the first place.
What is his release fee and his wage by the way? You imply that you know.
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So the club negotiates it then.

No, I don't know Hamers wages, but I know if a club will pay £20 million for a player they will pay him more than we do

It doesn't matter whether it is Man Utd, or a newly promoted to the Premier League Wycombe Wanderers, they will pay more than United.
 

JJBlade said:
So the club negotiates it then.

No, I don't know Hamers wages, but I know if a club will pay £20 million for a player they will pay him more than we do

It doesn't matter whether it is Man Utd, or a newly promoted to the Premier League Wycombe Wanderers, they will pay more than United.
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Sorry what are you moaning about? We've just signed a great young player we've all been waiting for. Things are going a little slow but we're building a decent side after losing a large amount of high earners.

Hamer might go but as of yet there's no evidence that is going to happen. Do some people want to just be negative no matter what?
 
JJBlade said:
So the club negotiates it then.

No, I don't know Hamers wages, but I know if a club will pay £20 million for a player they will pay him more than we do

It doesn't matter whether it is Man Utd, or a newly promoted to the Premier League Wycombe Wanderers, they will pay more than United.
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And yet he, and 100s of others have signed for United
 
JJBlade said:
So the club negotiates it then.

No, I don't know Hamers wages, but I know if a club will pay £20 million for a player they will pay him more than we do

It doesn't matter whether it is Man Utd, or a newly promoted to the Premier League Wycombe Wanderers, they will pay more than United.
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Both parties negotiate otherwise it's not a negotiation. You admit to not knowing Hamer's wages, so I presume you dont know the release fee either. Your appetite to deride our club, at every opportunity, is truly remarkable.
 
Valley Blade said:
Both parties negotiate otherwise it's not a negotiation. You admit to not knowing Hamer's wages, so I presume you dont know the release fee either. Your appetite to deride our club, at every opportunity, is truly remarkable.
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Whatever.
There is a release clause, that much seems quite obvious.

You can just imagine our fuckwits when signing him "Here ya are Gus, sign here, and if yer any good yer can fuck off somewhere decent, we know we're not worthy of you with us only being a pretend Premier League club an all that, but do us this favour and we'll do you one, now please, please, please sign it"
 
Carlton Blade said:
And yet he, and 100s of others have signed for United
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Because we were a Premier League club when we signed him, it's not as though we'd have got him if we were a Championship club.
It's easy convincing 100s of players to join if they are in the Championship or League One and they are joining a Premier League team

We got him because a decent Premier League player valued at £15 to £20 million wouldn't have looked twice at us
 
JJBlade said:
Because we were a Premier League club when we signed him, it's not as though we'd have got him if we were a Championship club.
It's easy convincing 100s of players to join if they are in the Championship or League One and they are joining a Premier League team

We got him because a decent Premier League player valued at £15 to £20 million wouldn't have looked twice at us
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So the club should overpay?
 
ancientblade said:
just a pity those 2 didnt see much of the ball booker was constantly going over there head lol absolutely loved dave bassett as manager but hated the tactics although i had been brought up spoilt on the john harris academy of football anyway back to hamer him and arblaster will be the best midfield 2 in the championship this season i think hes staying utb ftp ⚔️⚔️⚔️
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Bassett football was direct as you say but on our budget I think it was understandable because we're never going to beat teams trying to play football. We did play some good stuff too though.
 
Booker4 said:
Bassett football was direct as you say but on our budget I think it was understandable because we're never going to beat teams trying to play football. We did play some good stuff too though.
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Nothing wrong with direct football… particularly the way we played it under Bassett. There were very few games that weren’t exciting and we had some really talented players in the team… the likes of Hodges, Wood, Agana and Deane got you out of your seat. The term “press” seems to get used a lot in the modern game but Basset’s team pressed high and worked incredibly hard without the ball… teams like his highlighted the importance of that aspect of the game.
The promotion game at Leicester was a great example of us just overwhelming a team in all areas of the pitch.
 
Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
Brentford, Fulham and Roma sniffing...
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Roma one seems to have gone quiet, Fulham are signing some Brazilian (that isn't Souza, the bastards), and until Brentford start selling I'm not entirely sure they can afford him
 
The longer he stays the more money we'll get if he goes. Teams will get more desperate towards the end of the window. Just hope it doesn't happen on the last day. We'll have the cash but not the replacement, then we become desperate.
 
Alex Cheeseright said:
The longer he stays the more money we'll get if he goes. Teams will get more desperate towards the end of the window. Just hope it doesn't happen on the last day. We'll have the cash but not the replacement, then we become desperate.
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He has a release clause. So we will not get anymore than that.

Reportedly not much more than we paid for him.
 

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