Hall of Fame according to Star

[Bergen Blade]

Did anybody read the Star's supplement on Saturday, regarding their selection of 50 memorable players in our history? Which players were selected?

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/shef...nt-free-inside-the-star-on-saturday-1-7193106

 

[Gavlar]

Did anybody read the Star's supplement on Saturday, regarding their selection of 50 memorable players in our history? Which players were selected?

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/sheff-utd/sheffield-united-hall-of-fame-50-memorable-blades-eight-page-supplement-free-inside-the-star-on-saturday-1-7193106

any chance of posting the list of players?

 

[Silent Blade]

As it happens, a Blade who travels in the same train as me had it in his bag and has loaned it to me. Will type the list this lunch but I do not agree with their "top 50". John Flynn, Ian Bryson, Robert Page and Rob Hulse instead of Ernest Needham, Billy Gillespie, Harry Johnson, Jimmy Dunne, Fred Tunstall, Jock Dodds, Graham Shaw, Glenn Cockerill? No way! They got the wrong photo for Mick Speight (they had Phil Jones instead of him!). Will post the list of their top 50 this lunch

 

[boo radley]

I thought that about Speight.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

In terms of achievement, things won, caps etc. Nudger should be first on the list.

 

[DI36O]

I'll have a stab at what I think it should be and see how far off I am

Currie
Woodward
Hagan
Deane
Jags
Needham
Foulke
Hodgkinson
J Shaw
Badger

Mick Jones
Whitehouse
Tunstall
Pace
H Johnson
Billy Gillespie
Pickering
G Shaw
Colquhoun
Coldwell

Reece
Dearden
Salmons
Hemsley
Alan Kelly
George Utley
Bobby Barclay
Furniss
J Dunne
Dodds

Edwards
C Morris
Sabella
Speight
Summers
Ringstead
Hawksworth
Beattie
Brown
Tracey

Birchenall
Kettlebrough
Burgin
Hockey
McCall
Agana
Stancliffe
Morgan
Kenworthy
Booker


I briefly forgot midway it's most memorable not best so obviously the likes of Booker and Hockey will be in there but probably also players like Pesch, Tonge, Hodges, Ward, Borbokis and Evans would count as memorable. Probably Hulse would fit too as he contributed well to our only recent top flight season. Then again Nosworthy is also etched on the brain.

I guess the further back you go the less memorable they must be as some of our most accomplished will be beyond living memory. My list is admittedly bollocks as I don't remember most of these in a literal sense because I wasn't around.

 

[Silent Blade]

The list in the Star

Paul Devlin
John Flynn
Trevor Hockey
Alan Cork
Paul Peschisolido
Ted Hemsley
Nick Montogomery
Eddie Colquhoun
Mick Jones
Bill Dearden
Kyle Naughton
Kyle Walker
Gil Reece
Alan Kelly
Bob Hatton
Mick Speight
Carl Bradshaw
Joe Shaw
Michael Brown
Jimmy Hagan
Mel Rees
Rob Hulse
Brian Deane
Phil Jagielka
Glyn Hodges
Bob Booker
Dane Whitehouse
Chris Morgan
Peter Ndlovu
Alan Hodgkinson
Tony Currie
Tony Agana
Derek “Doc” Pace
Colin Morris
Vas Borbokis
Alex Sabella
Ian Bryson
David Holdsworth
Alan Woodward
Michael Tonge
Bill Foulke
Paddy Kenny
Tony Kenworthy
Alan Birchenall
Jan-Aage Fjortoft
Keith Edwards
James Beattie
Len Badger
Simon Tracey
Robert Page

 

[bornablade]

There are two players on that list that I never saw play. Jimmy Hagan (apart from Joe Shaw's testimonial) and Bill Foulke.

It seems to me that it's been put together by a few people of my age group with a certain proviso of 'in living memory'.

Disrepectful to so many other Blades that we never had an opportunity of seeing but should never be forgotten.

 

[Silent Blade]

I'll have a stab at what I think it should be and see how far off I am

Currie
Woodward
Hagan
Deane
Jags
Needham
Foulke
Hodgkinson
J Shaw
Badger

Mick Jones
Whitehouse
Tunstall
Pace
H Johnson
Billy Gillespie
Pickering
G Shaw
Colquhoun
Coldwell

Reece
Dearden
Salmons
Hemsley
Alan Kelly
George Utley
Bobby Barclay
Furniss
J Dunne
Dodds

Edwards
C Morris
Sabella
Speight
Summers
Ringstead
Hawksworth
Beattie
Brown
Tracey

Birchenall
Kettlebrough
Burgin
Hockey
McCall
Agana
Stancliffe
Morgan
Kenworthy
Booker


I briefly forgot midway it's most memorable not best so obviously the likes of Booker and Hockey will be in there but probably also players like Pesch, Tonge, Hodges, Ward, Borbokis and Evans would count as memorable. Probably Hulse would fit too as he contributed well to our only recent top flight season. Then again Nosworthy is also etched on the brain.

I guess the further back you go the less memorable they must be as some of our most accomplished will be beyond living memory. My list is admittedly bollocks as I don't remember most of these in a literal sense because I wasn't around.

Brilliant list! Much better than the Star's

 

[Grecian2000]

It's a load of bollocks.

It is neither a list of "best" players (the omission of Needham assuring that) or "memorable" players (by the inclusion of Foulke who no-one alive will remember seeing).

 

[Grecian2000]

Brilliant list! Much better than the Star's

I'd agree with that (although Speight and Kettleborough ain't going anywhere near my list).

 

[Silent Blade]

I'd agree with that (although Speight and Kettleborough ain't going anywhere near my list).

My dad rated Kettleborough but said he got a lot of stick from the crowd in home games which is why Kettleborough preferred playing in away games. Alf Ramsey picked him for the England squad of 40 for the 1966 World Cup (Keith was playing for Newcastle then) and I have seen a photo of him training with that squad at Roehampton. I know Keith's daughter quite well as she was three years below me at Maud Maxfield. Saw her last Saturday at the deaf club. Mick Speight had a lot of knockers in his first few years but became popular from 1977

 

[DI36O]

Brilliant list! Much better than the Star's

Brilliant?! Where's the ravenous criticism e.g. 'X was a talentless drip', 'You clearly never watch football as you haven't included Y'? And then we need someone to remind us it's all subjective etc etc

 

[Silent Blade]

Brilliant?! Where's the ravenous criticism e.g. 'X was a talentless drip', 'You clearly never watch football as you haven't included Y'? And then we need someone to remind us it's all subjective etc etc

OK will look closely at your list this evening but at a glance I dont think I would make many changes!

 

[Grecian2000]

Brilliant?! Where's the ravenous criticism e.g. 'X was a talentless drip', 'You clearly never watch football as you haven't included Y'? And then we need someone to remind us it's all subjective etc etc

It's the subjectivity of it that's the interesting bit. I can remember just as many players for disasterous games (Lee Baxter) and errors (Derek Richardson) as I can for pieces of rare (Tony Field) or more regular (Tony Currie) brilliance.
There are many players who I can't class as memorable because I never saw them and so I'm "stuck" with going as far back as Hodgy, the Shaws, Pace etc. rather than Needham, Dunne and Hagan.

I find the Stars list falls between the two and is the exact opposite of "all things to all men", whatever the term should be.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

"But most importantly, we hope it inspires you to have your say.
We want to whittle this list down further, and decide the ultimate ‘Top Ten’ players to have worn the red and white stripes.
Send your choices to [email protected] and look out for the results"

Who should be in the "Ultimate Top Ten"?

Off the top of my head, I would say:-

Kenworthy
Edwards
Morris
Beagrie
Deane
Agana
Kelly
Jagielka
Tonge
Murphy

Just 'cause I've seen them all play and they were/are my "favourites".

 

[Coily]

I've looked up and down that list, but can't see Trenton Wiggan anywhere.

I'm mad with rage

 

[Revolution]

The person who wrote that list seems to know next to nothing about the history of the club.

 

[Guesty]

The list in the Star

Paul Devlin etc

What sort of order is that in? It's not chronological, alphabetical or presumably any sort of order of precedence!

 

[georgebernardshaw]

John Tudor?

 

[JJ Sefton]

My dad rated Kettleborough but said he got a lot of stick from the crowd in home games which is why Kettleborough preferred playing in away games. Alf Ramsey picked him for the England squad of 40 for the 1966 World Cup (Keith was playing for Newcastle then) and I have seen a photo of him training with that squad at Roehampton. I know Keith's daughter quite well as she was three years below me at Maud Maxfield. Saw her last Saturday at the deaf club. Mick Speight had a lot of knockers in his first few years but became popular from 1977

My dad reckoned Kettlebrough was crap. Said all he did was run in circles slowly.

 

[Grecian2000]

My dad reckoned Kettlebrough was crap. Said all he did was run in circles slowly.

Can't we get your dad on here instead of you Walthy?

 

[JJ Sefton]

Can't we get your dad on here instead of you Walthy?

More from Walth Snr...

I first saw him playing for Rotherham against us. I thought he was their best player at that time.

When He signed for us I thought we had a real catch. Funny, but I don’t think he ever lived up to his promise with us. Possibly he was a bit slow for the old 1st Div.

 

[Grecian2000]

Although I didn't see him for Rotherham, I can't disagree with Snr. I was only a kid and perhaps being a baldy gave a poor impression (there really weren't that many about in the game at that time) but he never excited me (and he didn't score winners against the Pigs like fellow baldy Billy Punton).
I do remember he took more than his share of stick.

Players around that time that were more popular in our house: Shaw(G), Shaw(J), Hodgkinson, Pace, Richardson.
Young players about to be very popular in our house: Badger, Shaw(B), Woodward, Jones (and his nominal replacement Carlin), Birchenall.
Slightly later still and forever heroes: Currie, Reece, Salmons, Hemsley, Colquhoun.

Nearly 20 without even thinking who were better than KK.

Sure his daughter is very nice though Silent

 

[DI36O]

Although I didn't see him for Rotherham, I can't disagree with Snr. I was only a kid and perhaps being a baldy gave a poor impression (there really weren't that many about in the game at that time) but he never excited me (and he didn't score winners against the Pigs like fellow baldy Billy Punton).
I do remember he took more than his share of stick.

Players around that time that were more popular in our house: Shaw(G), Shaw(J), Hodgkinson, Pace, Richardson.
Young players about to be very popular in our house: Badger, Shaw(B), Woodward, Jones (and his nominal replacement Carlin), Birchenall.
Slightly later still and forever heroes: Currie, Reece, Salmons, Hemsley, Colquhoun.

Nearly 20 without even thinking who were better than KK.

Sure his daughter is very nice though Silent

Shall I dump him for Brian Richardson then in my list? I've got all the others apart from Carlin, shows how good we've been for the past four decades.

 

[Grecian2000]

Bloody loved Willie Carlin.

My dad thought he would be unpopular for replacing Jones but he became a bit of a crowd favourite for his whole hearted approach to the game.

 

[Kenilworth]

Mick Speight had a lot of knockers in his first few years but became popular from 1977

It all died down after the operation as people thought him less of a tit after that

 

[Grecian2000]

Shall I dump him for Brian Richardson then in my list?

For the "memorable" brief, his bald pate probably does make him qualify. As I said, there really weren't that many baldies about in those days with the likes of Bobby Charlton preferring a ridiculous comb over rather than admit his hair was going!

 

[Silent Blade]

What sort of order is that in? It's not chronological, alphabetical or presumably any sort of order of precedence!

There was a photo for each player (apart for the wrong photo for Speight) on 4 pages. I was typing in the names from each page

 

[Silent Blade]

Bloody loved Willie Carlin.

My dad thought he would be unpopular for replacing Jones but he became a bit of a crowd favourite for his whole hearted approach to the game.

we sold Mick Jones on the day before the home game against Newcastle in Sept 1967, the fans protested outside the ground that day and the protests continued in that Newcastle game, the fans were singing "Send Wragg to Vietnam" and LSF recalls fans singing "Dick Wragg Jam Rag". Carlin scored the opening goal on his debut and he then became popular in our 2-1 win (Reece scored our 2nd goal)