Gustavo Hamer

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Colombia Blade said:
Not sure what people are going on about Hamer's supposed fitness for? This season he's started 39 games out of the 46 (and came on as a sub in 5, meaning he only missed 1 game) and played 90 mins in 21 of them (more than half). His average time on the pitch when he starts is 83 mins. Add to that he's been played as a winger this season so will be doing more running than what he's been used to in his career where he's always played central midfield. Wish I was as fit as him!
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That doesn’t sound right, pretty sure he was suspended for 3 games…and must have been injured for at least a couple. He was rested for the last away game, wasn’t he sat in the away end?

There’s no denying he is technically brilliant but his fitness levels aren’t where they need to be. He usually starts strong and goes quiet in the second half. Not sure if the blame should be directed at our fitness team for this.
 
Hamer actually covers a lot of ground defensively. I'd like to see his GPS stats as I reckon he's fitter than most of us think. His physique leads many to assume he's unfit and that is compounded by the stories of people having seen him 'refuelling' badly. Undoubtedly he could look more like an athlete but maybe he's just a Gazza body type?
 
FriethBlade said:
Hamer actually covers a lot of ground defensively. I'd like to see his GPS stats as I reckon he's fitter than most of us think. His physique leads many to assume he's unfit and that is compounded by the stories of people having seen him 'refuelling' badly. Undoubtedly he could look more like an athlete but maybe he's just a Gazza body type?
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His run in the final for Campbell's goal showed how fast he can be. He also got a yellow cards for running back quickly and tackling players. He's quick but he doesn't recover between runs fast enough, and that's a fitness/conditioning issue of which he's not the only one.
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
Do you really think players are going to listen to Wilder telling them not to drink during the season and to act professional after what he was videoed doing after beating Wednesday? You lead by example and inspire people to follow. Wilder is not a leader, he's one of the lads.
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It's a huge issue with Wilder's attitude. Imagine weighing up staying or going next season. Then, after a heart-breaking defeat at Wembley that cost you a chance to play in the Premier League and probably £500k, when you needed an arm round you or some words or consolation, your manager storms off and deserts you. You're leaving aren't you? I wonder what the foreign signings make of him. He's not a leader. Everything is his way and if it doesn't work it's not his fault.
 
robbiez666 said:
It's a huge issue with Wilder's attitude. Imagine weighing up staying or going next season. Then, after a heart-breaking defeat at Wembley that cost you a chance to play in the Premier League and probably £500k, when you needed an arm round you or some words or consolation, your manager storms off and deserts you. You're leaving aren't you? I wonder what the foreign signings make of him. He's not a leader. Everything is his way and if it doesn't work it's not his fault.
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Much as I dislike Leeds, I don't much care for Everton either. Perennial relegation dodgers.
 
NAnstonblade said:
Much as I dislike Leeds, I don't much care for Everton either. Perennial relegation dodgers.
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It's highly unlikely now that they'd get relegated though. Given the promoted teams usually go down. New stadium. Finished 13th. And bever get relegated.
 
Jimmy Fleck said:
Not too fussed at him leaving- not the fittest and has gone missing in some big games this season.
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Biggest game at Wembley he didn’t go missing. Made a goal and crossed a fantastic ball and albeit for an absolutely out of this world dive would have been a goal.
 
Gimli said:
There’s inevitably going to be some outgoings and whilst it’s a shame, Hamer looks to be the most likely to leave.

I just hope there’s a decent plan for the incomings and I hope it’s not just on Wilder’s say so - he’s done a lot for this club but his signings, particularly with money to spend, particularly recently, have been hit and miss and we can’t afford to mess up this season.
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Ffs you’ll see what shit we’ll get with AI if they are good enough or fit enough to make the first team squad.
 
Captain Obvious said:
That doesn’t sound right, pretty sure he was suspended for 3 games…and must have been injured for at least a couple. He was rested for the last away game, wasn’t he sat in the away end?

There’s no denying he is technically brilliant but his fitness levels aren’t where they need to be. He usually starts strong and goes quiet in the second half. Not sure if the blame should be directed at our fitness team for this.
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They must take some of the blame, for the fitness issues! Half the team don't look fit enough, 60mins & there bolloxed!
 
Loco Blade said:
Wilders ability to make big transfers is surely diminished by the fact that recruitment is going to be data driven according to the director’s statement
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Which means he’ll be signing Peruvian second tier players
 
We’ve got a replacement under our nose. Brooks played left side really well but was benched by Hamer on that side then by JRS on the right, use him or lose him, mark my words. Next season should be his breakout season and I think he could do a job like Mayenda and can only get better. Every time he came on including Wembley he lifted the team and he’s got a nose for goal.
 
Broomhall Blade said:
Question is will he be the same player.
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No the best premier league players are consistent repeated sprints and Hamer and the vast majority of Championship players can’t do that and hence they end up in a relegated premier league team if they are fancied.
 

TJ blade said:
They must take some of the blame, for the fitness issues! Half the team don't look fit enough, 60mins & there bolloxed!
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These are fit lads but the championship requires fitter and faster than ever, they will only play in the championship if they can’t
 
It's weird how Hamer could last 80-90 mins in the Premier League despite scoring goals and getting assists, and yet he can only manage 60-65 mins in the Championship.
 
Hamer will do well at a decent Prem side. He won’t need to run for 90 mins, as 60 mins would be great for most Prem Teams as they have strong benches. My guess is that he’ll end up at Everton for circa £25 million
 
His fitness issues aren't around how many minutes he plays or how many games it's around him being slow to.reactbto danger and constantly coughing up possession
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
It's weird how Hamer could last 80-90 mins in the Premier League despite scoring goals and getting assists, and yet he can only manage 60-65 mins in the Championship.
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That might have had something to do with how shit our bench was last year. Plus the scoreline was usually unsalvageable after 60 mins anyway so didn't really matter if we got fresh legs on or not.
 
Captain Obvious said:
That doesn’t sound right, pretty sure he was suspended for 3 games…and must have been injured for at least a couple. He was rested for the last away game, wasn’t he sat in the away end?

There’s no denying he is technically brilliant but his fitness levels aren’t where they need to be. He usually starts strong and goes quiet in the second half. Not sure if the blame should be directed at our fitness team for this.
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Yes you're right about the total games he's featured in (think my list just missed off the games he didn't play in). He featured in 44 league games including the playoffs so he missed 5 games. When he started his average time on the pitch is still 83 minutes, and he played 90 minutes in 21 (so 48%). I don't know if the 90 minutes means until the end or literally into injury time (altho either way it doesn't suggest being taken off at 70). Here's his minutes for the last 10 games he played:
90, 90, 90, 90, 85, 90, 60, 85, 72, 72 (playoffs in bold)

We know in his last game he went off injured and the previous two games against Bristol there wasn't really a need to keep him on and risk it. The 60 minutes was against Blackburn last game of the season and Wilder was resting a few for the playoffs (Davies was in net and Holding, McCallum and Cannon also started) which probably explains why he was taken off early.
 
Whilst I totally agree Hamer needs to work on his fitness/conditioning.

Whether that is entirely his own doing or that he's been carrying an injury is another matter. We can't actually say despite the general opinion. He's clearly not totally out of shape otherwise he wouldn't be able to compete at all.

But let's not do the typical Sheffield United thing of if he is leaving he's now crap. He really isn't. Deep down we know he's very talented and about the best midfielder at the level we are still at. (Hence the award)

If he goes, which I suspect he will. A replacement will be needed. Id expect not quite the full fee to be reinvested.

Then there are two ways of looking at replacing him though. One is to do as like for like replacement. Which I would think searching abroad would be your best bet.

Or you tweak how we play and sign one or two players for that system.

Personally I feel the system needs evolving anyway. Id think most would think the same. Id rather we didn't play the inverted wingers and go more dedicated pacey wingers. Brooks could still work in this system too for his development.

I'd like Hamer to stay however. He is a bonfire top end championship player. Who can also compete at the level above. But I do feel that's unlikely.
 

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