Get Wilder gone and stop the delusion.

[SheepdipBlade]

Do you not think that horrific board had anything to do with that?

I think you can probably say that for most of the time I've been a Blade - and my first match was against Carlisle in 1970. All managers have had to deal with some kind of mind boggling BS from the board room.

 

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

I think you can probably say that for most of the time I've been a Blade - and my first match was against Carlisle in 1970. All managers have had to deal with some kind of mind boggling BS from the board room.

My point is, non Blades can be a success, id say, given the circumstances, he was a success. I certainly enjoyed that period.

 

[SheepdipBlade]

My point is, non Blades can be a success, id say, given the circumstances, he was a success. I certainly enjoyed that period.

Not going to disagree. It's kind of my point. We've had well regarded managers who've been successful elsewhere but never really got anywhere at BDTBL. Is there something about our club that only allows Bassett type managers to succeed? Or flip it around - that means other styles of manager fail?

 

[Nick Jansky]

My point is, non Blades can be a success, id say, given the circumstances, he was a success. I certainly enjoyed that period.

Another one who participated in an old school drinking culture. It was common back then though.

 

[luffenhamblade]

Managed what Wilder & Slav couldn’t

No problem it’s about opinions. To me Hecky is bang average but if Slav had been supported it could have been the start of a new era and moved on from Wilder. Just my view.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Bettis said the same NO to a Director of Football with Abdullah as owner just has he has under COH. Bettis has no experience of a well run top level football club just the same as his Saudi pal. His football CV includes Sheffield United Sheffield United and Sheffield United. He is an integral part of the Jurassic Park "cabal" set up at our club. Funnily enough "Steven" not all clubs with a Director of Football/Sporting Director/Technical Director are successful but all successful, well run and forward thinking clubs do have one or more of the 3. But of course you and your "font of all knowledge" buddies know better.

“Stephen’s” decision or those that pay his wages?

Cheers ,
I realise Bettis is nowhere near a PSC , he's a paid CEO who's been given a seat on the board.
My point was , why should he feel threatened by a DoF ?
Who would be just another employee , given the colloquial title of Director (and maybe a seat on the board).
In my mind the DoF would be responsible for everything on the "football" side (especially recruitment which has been a shambles recently) and the head coach would run the all-consuming day to day team & match matters.
I just think the old-style Manager job is too big these days for one man , and I'm not sure whether Alan Knill is contributing much.
The CEO can look after "everything that isn't directly football-related" , the development at Dore , the business issues , the budgets & accounts , the management of our various land assets etc etc.
Anyway , these are just my idle blue-sky thoughts about what to do when the club moves beyond Wilder ,
Which - from Rosen soundbites - appears to ages away.

Pleased l was able to enlighten you about PSCs .

Btw. What makes you think Snek is frightened of a DoF? (”Frightened”).

 

[Tom Bott]

So I guess all the talk about being able to recognise character is just bullshit then.

Ask Leon Clarke why he scored only one goal after his big money new contract, with 19 goals the season before.
Does an improved pay cheque improve character or desire to be better?

Of course you could also ask the same about Wilder and his improved pay and contracts.

 

[Darren William]

“Stephen’s” decision or those that pay his wages?


Pleased l was able to enlighten you about PSCs .

Btw. What makes you think Snek is frightened of a DoF? (”Frightened”).

The problem now is the parachute money gone ,been wasted ! The players who's injury record is like sick note or lack of fitnesss should have been moved on ,like campbell lets say .You won't attract a decent fee to sell them and get good replacements in
So united are stuck with a few of them hoping for an improvement in fitness and form unlikely .

 

[sitwell]

I think you can probably say that for most of the time I've been a Blade - and my first match was against Carlisle in 1970. All managers have had to deal with some kind of mind boggling BS from the board room.

Thats my first game 2-2.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

I think you can probably say that for most of the time I've been a Blade - and my first match was against Carlisle in 1970. All managers have had to deal with some kind of mind boggling BS from the board room.

Nowadays, the mind boggling BS comes from the fan base

 

[SheepdipBlade]

Thats my first game 2-2.

That was the one. They played in pale blue with a white and red (orange?) hoop - in my mind anyway!

 

[Sean Thornton]

The problem now is the parachute money gone ,been wasted ! The players who's injury record is like sick note or lack of fitnesss should have been moved on ,like campbell lets say .You won't attract a decent fee to sell them and get good replacements in
So united are stuck with a few of them hoping for an improvement in fitness and form unlikely .

It’s not the first time parachute money has been wasted though. The late collapse last season, history repeating itself this season for pretty much the same reasons and the appointment of Selles has really put the pressure on COH.


Re Sneks imaginary DoF role, I doubt Bettis scouted them, fixed fees and wages, did the medicals or is even involved in fitness and training. Some of the wise sages and fantasy posters on here think otherwise though, so l could be mistaken.

 

[SheepdipBlade]

Nowadays, the mind boggling BS comes from the fan base

True enough - though there's always been an element of that for as far back as I can remember. I wonder if social media is making it louder nowadays (as in so many things)?

 

[HillStreet Blade]

Not going to disagree. It's kind of my point. We've had well regarded managers who've been successful elsewhere but never really got anywhere at BDTBL. Is there something about our club that only allows Bassett type managers to succeed? Or flip it around - that means other styles of manager fail?

Yes, we have never had much money for transfers so have needed bargain basement buys. After the south stand was built the servicing of the debt made the situation worse. Which was why Harry Haslam was appointed with his reputation of unearthing gems. A catastrophic appointment that put us in the 4th division.

 

[ATL Recs]

No problem it’s about opinions. To me Hecky is bang average but if Slav had been supported it could have been the start of a new era and moved on from Wilder. Just my view.

Completely agree Slav was thrown under a bus and sold a lie why else would he have come
We reverted to type Wilder/Hecky ball and another short term level of championship success -nothing that built sustainability

 

[Silent Blade]

That was the one. They played in pale blue with a white and red (orange?) hoop - in my mind anyway!

 

[Silky Sabella]

No problem it’s about opinions. To me Hecky is bang average but if Slav had been supported it could have been the start of a new era and moved on from Wilder. Just my view.

And it is a damn good 100% accurate view

 

[Yoonitedite]

I think Wilder has an issue with a few of the players he has signed as well.

I wonder if they are the ones he asks to play out of their natural position,despite making promises to the contrary just before the ink was dry

 

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

I wonder if they are the ones he asks to play out of their natural position,despite making promises to the contrary just before the ink was dry

I think a lot of them have simply stopped listening to him

 

[54yrblade]

I think a lot of them have simply stopped listening to him

The more I see of what happens after the HT break, the more I believe that's the case. He is apparently incapable of seeing substitutions early enough or of in game changes. Other managers are schooling him regularly.

 

[AdamSufc1997]

Not his fault though apperantly

 

[54yrblade]

'That's on me' would be nice Wilder

 

[Cheeky Blade]

Everytime I see this thread pop up the 1982 Imagination pop hit plays in my head…

 

[The Fox]

Wilder
The definition of spiraling the plughole .

 

[ATL Recs]

Everytime I see this thread pop up the 1982 Imagination pop hit plays in my head…

I’d have taken just an illusion for the first half

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

No team in the Championship has won fewer points from their past five games than us.

 

[LBA_Blade]

No team in the Championship has won fewer points from their past five games than us.

But how is that Wilder’s fault, he just picks the team, formation and tactics along with motivates and man manages the players. It’s (insert massive inhale) the players, Wilder has done everything but they didn’t get the press right and because Wilder didn’t have them for preseason they aren’t fit enough to see out 60 minutes

 

[YES Blade]

No team in the Championship has won fewer points from their past five games than us.

I blame Selles

 

[Aston max]

 

[The Fox]

But how is that Wilder’s fault, he just picks the team, formation and tactics along with motivates and man manages the players. It’s (insert massive inhale) the players, Wilder has done everything but they didn’t get the press right and because Wilder didn’t have them for preseason they aren’t fit enough to see out 60 minutes

There in lies the problem

At 3pm wilder had selected a lineup , formation and group of players who looked like they didnt have a clue , intent or desire, and the 1st half cost us the game
If hes unable to impart some pretty basic instructions to the team he's going to struggle.