Get rid of Wilder

[dazzlingblade]

The problem is backing him, I hope the club give him fuck all else.
He's best left to freebies and loan players that are a bit dopey and need motivating, he can then start motivating them.
If he's given more than tuppence to spend on a player he hasn't got a clue.

Even Hecky when given £15 million to spend recognised Hamer's ability, that £15 million would have gone down the toilet on some right tosser if Wilder had spent it.

Yep Cooper and Burrows have been a right waste of money, I agree, and Cannon is a few games in, give your head a wobble

 

[JJBlade]

Yep Cooper and Burrows have been a right waste of money, I agree, and Cannon is a few games in, give your head a wobble

Cooper and Burrows weren't big money

I'm talking £10 million +
Wilder success rate in this area is shite

 

[N20 Blade]

I’ve been pretty vocal about wilder, mainly critical. Whilst there is room for improvement there is definitely a lot he’s doing right.

In a nutshell we are functional and overachieving but at times not nice to watch.

We are 2nd in the league which is a great achievement. By far his biggest accolade. Out of possession i think we are pretty good. When we have the ball we can be better and that side of the game often frustrates me. His signings are hot and cold. He tends to favour effort over technical ability or athleticism in signings. Pros and cons to that approach. His game management is a mixed bag, sometimes making odd decisions playing too many players out of position.

For me the Leeds performance really wasn’t that bad, we’ve played far worse against much lesser opponents. We had a go at them at times but poor game management and Leeds quality eventually killed us off.

I didn’t like the appointment in the first place and would still prefer we looked beyond this mould of manager but i think he’s done a decent job. He has his limits though. If we have premier league aspirations, which we should, then he can certainly get us there (which i didn’t believe he would be able to) but i don’t believe he is able to sustain us there. An overhaul would be required AGAIN to make that transition.

The ''debate'' regarding Wilder, reminds of identifying witches during the Middle Ages. If she doesn't drown, she's guilty, and killed, if she drowns she's not. We go up, he's replaced, by someone of PL pedigree. He doesn't get us promoted, he's replaced by someone better who can achieve this.

I'm afraid that the second coming is only going to end badly for Wilder, and that's a real shame. Redemption for his critics, who would never forgive him for walking out four years ago. It was a brave decision on both sides to give him another chance, albeit, one that was never going to be long term, given the venomous attitude of his opponents.

 

[Woodys Thunderbolt]

He’s absolutely diabolical, I’m sick of us having an attritional manager, he’s scared of his own piss, if Hamer was fit enough for the bench start him, if Holden is fit playe him and drop bomb scare Robbo,; I just wish we could wipe the slate clean, but the new owners have decided to give Wilder another massive pay day… very prematurely. a decent manager with this team would not have lost that match… he doesn’t know what system suits the players or what players suits the system.. he’s a joke and if the owners are serious about this club they need to get rid, or They’re gonna lose hundreds of millions and if they don’t have that we’re gonna fine ourselves in admin…

Bomb scare Robbo? He had a great game the other night and still our best out and out defender.

 

[utd4ever]

There's not a manager on this planet that we could realistically get that would do a better job than Wilder in my view. Look at how the teams promoted have done in the PL of late including Leicester who had ten seasons or so in the top flight and won the championship at a canter and are still dog turd with no chance of staying up.

He makes mistakes like anyone but we're second in the league and quite frankly Leeds should be miles clear as should Burnley when you look how much their squads cost.

Sean Dyche would be a decent appointment for example if we sacked Wilder next season but it would mean very defensive football which Everton fans despised and a lot say Wilder is too defensive!

Some of the views on here are laughable in my view I might add. Championship manager stuff.

How about thinking outside the box or should I say outside the country.

I wonder when the penny will drop

 

[Norwood's 6 iron]

I don't dislike Wilder, I just recognise that he can't sign a decent player for big money.
We all have our skills, and we all have things we're not so good at

Wilder's skill is motivating very ordinary players to become average

So let me get this right, the players that Wilder won promotion with and took us to our highest premiership finish were just average.

 

[SUFCinks]

The ''debate'' regarding Wilder, reminds of identifying witches during the Middle Ages. If she doesn't drown, she's guilty, and killed, if she drowns she's not. We go up, he's replaced, by someone of PL pedigree. He doesn't get us promoted, he's replaced by someone better who can achieve this.

I'm afraid that the second coming is only going to end badly for Wilder, and that's a real shame. Redemption for his critics, who would never forgive him for walking out four years ago. It was a brave decision on both sides to give him another chance, albeit, one that was never going to be long term, given the venomous attitude of his opponents.

I’m not his biggest fan but i do see he has his qualities. I just don’t believe they are right for the long term success of the club IMO. I think thats what the majority of anti-wilder fans are expressing or trying to, the ones that I have engaged with anyway. Some are more extreme but i can sympathise with their frustration but i do understand it’s an extreme viewpoint.

 

[JayGreen17]

In October 2024, manager Oliver Glasner stated that Holding had been frozen out of the squad and was training individually following a disagreement between the pair.

On 3 February 2025, Holding was signed by EFL Championship club Sheffield United on a loan until the end of the season. He departed having featured once for Crystal Palace in the EFL Cup in one and a half years, and having made zero appearances in the Premier League.

How fit or match fit do you think he might be after 3 weeks with us ?

Then why the hell bring him in if we needed a central defender drastically, another wrong choice by Wilder.

 

[GymClassHero]

He’s absolutely diabolical, I’m sick of us having an attritional manager, he’s scared of his own piss, if Hamer was fit enough for the bench start him, if Holden is fit playe him and drop bomb scare Robbo,; I just wish we could wipe the slate clean, but the new owners have decided to give Wilder another massive pay day… very prematurely. a decent manager with this team would not have lost that match… he doesn’t know what system suits the players or what players suits the system.. he’s a joke and if the owners are serious about this club they need to get rid, or They’re gonna lose hundreds of millions and if they don’t have that we’re gonna fine ourselves in admin…

This is absolutely ridiculous, never heard such nonsense

Bloke loses one game of football, to - as much as I hate to admit it - the best team in the league, who have the biggest resources in the league.

The only reason we are in a position to be fighting for 1st place is because of the manager. Yeah he's made some mistakes which I've definitely not been pleased with, but to want him out because we lost one game which we were odds on to lose anyway? Nonsense

 

[Nick Jansky]

The only reason we are in a position to be fighting for 1st place is because of the manager. Yeah he's made some mistakes which I've definitely not been pleased with, but to want him out because we lost one game which we were odds on to lose anyway? Nonsense

No, that isn’t the only reason. I’m not saying he hasn’t done well, because he has. But part of the reason we are where we are is because we can afford a wage bill that most of the division can only dream of. We have better players than other clubs. How many games have we won because of a moment of magic from an individual?

I certainly don’t want him out this season, that would be madness and I don’t understand anyone who’s suggesting that. If he takes us up I’ll be grateful to him. But sentiment shouldn’t enter into it next season, especially if we are spending big money on overseas players. Because he is limited and below the level we aspire to reach.

 

[Davalon]

The reality is that if we go up and we want to stay up, then we'll need to utilise the foreign market to do that.

If we get there under Wilder, hopefully he'll embrace that.

He's managed quite a few foreign players now in the last 5 years compared to before that, so hopefully he's more open minded than before.

 

[Nick Jansky]

The reality is that if we go up and we want to stay up, then we'll need to utilise the foreign market to do that.

If we get there under Wilder, hopefully he'll embrace that.

He's managed quite a few foreign players now in the last 5 years compared to before that, so hopefully he's more open minded than before.

He would need to change a lot, and you would hope he learned that lesson at Watford. But there is then the question of whether making those changes would reduce his effectiveness. It would need a different sort of man management for sure, and the Peroni sessions would certainly need to be knocked on the head. Too many of our players drink as it is, such is the culture.

 

[Davalon]

He would need to change a lot, and you would hope he learned that lesson at Watford. But there is then the question of whether making those changes would reduce his effectiveness. It would need a different sort of man management for sure, and the Peroni sessions would certainly need to be knocked on the head. Too many of our players drink as it is, such is the culture.

Yeah definitely agree.

I'm probably an hypocrite because I loved seeing some of the promotion scenes years ago but top flight football especially, has moved on.

I like a drink and a laugh but I also think there has to be a limit.

I know I'll get pelters for this but my son who is late teens and being going to our games, home and away, since he was at infant school, now drinks in the same pub as Wilder most weeks.

Let's just say his opinion of him has gone downhill and leave it at that.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Yeah definitely agree.

I'm probably an hypocrite because I loved seeing some of the promotion scenes years ago but top flight football especially, has moved on.

I like a drink and a laugh but I also think there has to be a limit.

I know I'll get pelters for this but my son who is late teens and being going to our games, home and away, since he was at infant school, now drinks in the same pub as Wilder most weeks.

Let's just say his opinion of him has gone downhill and leave it at that.

Yes, I’m aware of quite a lot of disappointing stuff, but Wilder can do what he wants because he doesn’t go onto the pitch. The players are a different matter and if the management turn a blind eye to it then it is absolutely to the detriment of the club.

 

[Shawy24]

Really?
You need to stay off substances if you really believe that bs.

Fucking Whoosh

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Yeah definitely agree.

I'm probably an hypocrite because I loved seeing some of the promotion scenes years ago but top flight football especially, has moved on.

I like a drink and a laugh but I also think there has to be a limit.

I know I'll get pelters for this but my son who is late teens and being going to our games, home and away, since he was at infant school, now drinks in the same pub as Wilder most weeks.

Let's just say his opinion of him has gone downhill and leave it at that.

Are you saying he turns into a gobshite when pissed?

 

[Davalon]

Yes, I’m aware of quite a lot of disappointing stuff, but Wilder can do what he wants because he doesn’t go onto the pitch. The players are a different matter and if the management turn a blind eye to it then it is absolutely to the detriment of the club.

True but I'm aware of one drunken moment that could have caused both him and us issues.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

True but I'm aware of one drunken moment that could have caused both him and us issues.

He admitted signing Brewster when pissed?

 

[Shawy24]

You’re absolutely right, in my case my weakness is patience (or rather lack of it) with elements of of our fanbase who wait for a bad result prior to pouring bile and insults on players, manager, even ex players who see their reputations shredded online with no real right of reply.

To be fair, you’ve achieved a first……you’re on ignore.

Ffs

 

[GymClassHero]

No, that isn’t the only reason. I’m not saying he hasn’t done well, because he has. But part of the reason we are where we are is because we can afford a wage bill that most of the division can only dream of. We have better players than other clubs. How many games have we won because of a moment of magic from an individual?

I certainly don’t want him out this season, that would be madness and I don’t understand anyone who’s suggesting that. If he takes us up I’ll be grateful to him. But sentiment shouldn’t enter into it next season, especially if we are spending big money on overseas players. Because he is limited and below the level we aspire to reach.

Yes we can (re wage bill), but remember how much work went into the squad overhaul following our relegation. The only remaining first team regulars in our usual starting XI are Hamer and Anel. He did a good job of clearing out the deadwood and made some big calls letting players like Egan go which surprised me.

He also did a good job stabilizing the club, when you look at what's happening at Luton, who actually made a fist of it and didn't come down under a dark cloud like us, it's a stark reminder that the Championship is not a walk in the park, regardless of your wage bill. I feared that it would be us in that position, thankfully not.

My closing point; Wilder has made mistakes, as every manager does. I was starting to lose patience with him but the way he approached the Leeds game was encouraging as he didn't go defensive and play Souzhary like many thought. Yes you can argue his subs were shite but fact is we lost to a better, fitter side. A side who have had an extra year together to gel and who have spent far more than ourselves so it is what it is.

 

[Northernsoulblade]

Wilder only want the best for the Blades he has a difficult job yes questions are raised about his transfer dealings but who are our scouts and how do we f uk good strikers up he needs a big result at QPR come on Chris u can do it

 

[Lupa The Noa]

The new owners used AI to find future playing prospects, I wander if they will use it to look at a future manager? Is there a manager out there, unknown but punching way above his weight? Sounds crazy, but.......

Apart from the two AI signings are apparently pretty awful

 

[Nick Jansky]

Apart from the two AI signings are apparently pretty awful

Where have you heard this?

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

Apart from the two AI signings are apparently pretty awful

You mean the one that is scoring for the u21's. Yep, awful. Shooting and hitting the target, will never do. And the other hasn't got a permit yet, I don't think.

 

[Aston max]

I think any speculation about wilders future needs leaving alone and let him get on with it ,personally I think he'll be replaced if we achieve promotion.
as for our signings most are decent Cannon needs to get his connection with the other players along with bbd
Jrs (juries still out as I think he plays better with a gilchrist type FB behind him)
As I've said elsewhere we don't have much movement other than ohare, hamer and Campbell in attacking areas, looking at the Peruvian lad bring him in give him some cameos
I think we all know signings are now more studied than the old gut feeling ones

 

[Fitzpatrick’s head cover]

Everyone seems to think he should go if we go up. I seem to remember him having a brilliant season with us in the Prem.

I think a manager who can get us in to the top half in the first season after being promoted is probably worth a shot.

 

[AWetFlannel]

No, that isn’t the only reason. I’m not saying he hasn’t done well, because he has. But part of the reason we are where we are is because we can afford a wage bill that most of the division can only dream of. We have better players than other clubs. How many games have we won because of a moment of magic from an individual?

I certainly don’t want him out this season, that would be madness and I don’t understand anyone who’s suggesting that. If he takes us up I’ll be grateful to him. But sentiment shouldn’t enter into it next season, especially if we are spending big money on overseas players. Because he is limited and below the level we aspire to reach.

He's on target to get promotion with a team with a top six wage bill, just like he did with a bottom half wage bill. Can't ask for much more either way.

I understand the argument you're making in the second paragraph and it's not unreasonable, but why do we keep talking about next season in the PL after every game? It's needlessly negative: it'd be stupid to say he should be sacked ATM so instead to send him some ill will we say, "if he gets us up, we should sack him them because he's crap in the PL."

We aren't ten points clear of third, let's focus on the battle and have this discussion later.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Everyone seems to think he should go if we go up. I seem to remember him having a brilliant season with us in the Prem.

I think a manager who can get us in to the top half in the first season after being promoted is probably worth a shot.

I think he’ll be getting a shot. But I think his input into signings might (and should) be less than previously, and the new owners won’t hesitate to pull the trigger if he isn’t cutting it.

We have to get up first, though.

 

[Nick Jansky]

He's on target to get promotion with a team with a top six wage bill, just like he did with a bottom half wage bill. Can't ask for much more either way.

I understand the argument you're making in the second paragraph and it's not unreasonable, but why do we keep talking about next season in the PL after every game? It's needlessly negative: it'd be stupid to say he should be sacked ATM so instead to send him some ill will we say, "if he gets us up, we should sack him them because he's crap in the PL."

We aren't ten points clear of third, let's focus on the battle and have this discussion later.

The bottom line is he’ll ultimately be judged on results in whichever division we’re in.

You’re right, we have to get up first. But talking about next season in the PL is actually positive, isn’t it? I think we’ll get there. And given what happened last season I don’t think you can reasonably expect there to be no conjecture about what happens next season. Because everyone wants us to have the best possible chance of avoiding a repeat, and people will have their own ideas of what will give us the best chance. It’s a valid subject for debate.

If we go up I would let Wilder start the season to see what he can do, but he certainly doesn’t get any free passes, especially not with American owners.

 

[AWetFlannel]

The bottom line is he’ll ultimately be judged on results in whichever division we’re in.

You’re right, we have to get up first. But talking about next season in the PL is actually positive, isn’t it? I think we’ll get there. And given what happened last season I don’t think you can reasonably expect there to be no conjecture about what happens next season. Because everyone wants us to have the best possible chance of avoiding a repeat, and people will have their own ideas of what will give us the best chance. It’s a valid subject for debate.

If we go up I would let Wilder start the season to see what he can do, but he certainly doesn’t get any free passes, especially not with American owners.

It's definitely a valid subject for debate, I'm just suggesting that it coming up every time we lose (with the implication that he shouldn't be our manager if we go up) is needlessly negative.

Nobody ends up having a debate, suggesting other managers etc, it begins and ends with "Wilder is shite, can't do X or y, should be gone if we go up."