Incoming? George Moncur

[Ricky]

I look forward to reading the next 10 pages of tit for tat on this thread for many hours.

 

[Slim Man]

Taffazolli and Moncur are not better signings than the best winger in the division last season, as voted by his peers. That a fact.

 

[Booker4]

What if, and this is pretty out there, so brace yourself, Wilder wasn't interested in signing him?

I'm not saying we should be signing him, it's just I hope he doesn't join Posh. I don't think we can afford that sort of transfer fee and I think Wilder wants to give Scougall a role in the team, or at least give him a go and he's similar to Moncur as a goalscoring midfielder.

 

[Barney]

Deflecting from what?

Its you who cant answer simple questions.

- What facts support your view that Moncur/Tafazolli are better than Duffy/Hussy?
- Would you have spent 8k a week on Tafazolli?
- What made you (partially!) believe we were in for Tafazolli?

- Judging players isn't like that, that's probably why you think as you do. "Facts available" was probably the wrong term.
- Depends on the budget we have but I'd like to have thought not. But then you're going off people like Magic Mike and so you have no idea how relevant it is.
- What has this got to do with the point?

Now answer the point we started on;

Do you believe Duffy and Hussey are better signings than Tafazolli and Moncur? You can base your opinion on whatever you like.

By the way, aren't you also one of these ITK's? You've definitely got the gullibility and stupidity for it.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Taffazolli and Moncur are not better signings than the best winger in the division last season, as voted by his peers. That a fact.

But Barney has loads of facts that say otherwise. We cant see them though.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Now answer the point we started on;

Do you believe Duffy and Hussey are better signings than Tafazolli and Moncur? You can base your opinion on whatever you like.

Are you being serious?!

 

[Barney]

Are you being serious?!

Absolutely, just to get it down in plain terms. Which pair, before they were signed by either club, would you have preferred?

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Duffy and Moncur, both attacking midfielders, 1 for a promoted team, the other for a relegated team. 1 made the league team of the year, the other didnt.

I didn't, but Ive stated the facts that are available to us both. And Im happy with the signings.

Duffy, team of the year, Hussey, most assists for a defender in league one.

Moncur and Tafazolli?

Absolutely, just to get it down in plain terms. Which pair, before they were signed by either club, would you have preferred?

Take a guess.

 

[Barney]

Take a guess.

Did you say it before they were all signed too?

You prefer Duffy and Hussey. I'd have preferred Tafazolli and Moncur.

It actually makes me laugh what people are willing to do to defend the club.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Did you say it before they were all signed?

I was never asked.

 

[Barney]

I was never asked.

Fantastic! So if you were asked you'd have said you prefer us to sign Duffy and Hussey over Tafazolli and Moncur would you?

You're getting better and better...

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Fantastic! So if you were asked you'd have said you prefer us to sign Duffy and Hussey over Tafazolli and Moncur would you?

You're getting better and better...

If I was asked the question before, I would have looked at the facts and read about them.

And when you look at the facts and read about them then I would have picked Duffy and Hussey for SUFC yes.

 

[Barney]

If I was asked the question before, I would have looked at the facts and read about them.

And when you look at the facts and read about them then I would have picked Duffy and Hussey for SUFC yes.

Great stuff.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Great stuff.

Have you managed to figure out why you'd pick Moncur and Tafazolli?

I know you've said you dont have any facts, and you haven't seen them much/at all, so...

 

[Barney]

Have you managed to figure out why you'd pick Moncur and Tafazolli?

I know you've said you dont have any facts, and you haven't seen them much/at all, so...

You know when people form opinions about who they'd like us to sign, is it just personal opinion?

You know that thing that happens every season.

What do they go on?

 

[S5Blade]

Did you say it before they were all signed too?

You prefer Duffy and Hussey. I'd have preferred Tafazolli and Moncur.

It actually makes me laugh what people are willing to do to defend the club.

Makes everyone else laugh what people (you) are willing to do to slag off the club you "support"

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

You know when people form opinions about who they'd like us to sign, is it just personal opinion?

You know that thing that happens every season.

What do they go on?

It all makes sense now.

You magic up your opinions, confirmation at last!

Where as the rest of us usually base opinions on something.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Having seen Colchester a few times, given a choice I'd take Gilbey over Moncur every time.

 

[Barney]

It all makes sense now.

You magic up your opinions, confirmation at last!

Where as the rest of us usually base opinions on something.

Yes, just like Magic.

Not quite at yours or Mike's level yet though.

Work in progress...

Have you made up your next rumour yet?

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Yes, just like Magic.

Not quite at yours or Mike's level yet though.

Work in progress...

Have you made up your next rumour yet?

Have you got a crush on this Mike bloke?!

 

[Barney]

Have you got a crush on this Mike bloke?!

Yes I think his rumours are excellent.

 

[bricktop]

Yes I think his rumours are excellent.

I'd would have imagined that Magic Mike saw the Blades a few more times than you did last season Barney

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I'd would have imagined that Magic Mike saw the Blades a few more times than you did last season Barney

Of course, Barney was off scouting Moncur, Tafazolli and umpteen other players.

 

[Barney]

I'd would have imagined that Magic Mike saw the Blades a few more times than you did last season Barney

And this is relevant.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

I have never seen tafazolli play live, nor moncur. I have seen duffy and hussey play, I doubt you have seen any of them.

Its not my job to decide who we sign and who we dont. When we sign someone, I will look around for reviews, comments on them etc etc not get a whole skip full of sand in my vagina about players we have not signed.

You havent got a single clue as to whether we even interested in either of Tafa or Moncur despite twitter and forum ramblings but we are "left behind" because we havent signed them. Just any excuse for you to ram up your boring agenda.

I am happy with the signings we have made and will judge our business at the start of the season, then again at the end of the transfer window, not on the 14th of June, 7 weeks before the season starts.

I’ve seen them all play at least once though the 2 who’d performances don’t stick in my mind are Tafazolli and Hussey, probably because they are defenders to less likely to take the game by the scruff of the neck.


Duffy I first saw when we came from behind to beat Scunny in the 2011-12 season at the lane and I was very impressed. He scored a great individual goal that day and I really wanted us to sign him from thereon. I’ve seen him a handful of times since for Scunny/Donny/Burton and whilst he’s generally looked decent, none of the performances have been as good as that first time I saw him. I reckon he could well be a good signing. I just hope we’ve not got him a season too late.


Moncur scored against us at the lane last season and his movement caused us all manner of problems in a first half where they battered us. He is a great threat going forward but in my opinion, can only play as a “number 10”. If Wilder doesn’t choose to set us up that way, I think he’d be pretty useless to us (much like Baxter). The kid is a threat going forward but doesn’t track runners and couldn’t tackle a fish supper. If we were to sign a Colchester player I would prefer Alex Gilbey as he seems to have a better engine, stronger in the tackle and can still pose a threat going forward. i.e. more of a rounded central midfielder which I believe is what Wilder was after.


I really can’t remember a single thing about Hussey but Bury fans displeasure at losing his services bodes well.


Tafazolli, can’t say he stuck out individually. What I would say is that when playing against them, I believe we caused them a lot of problems at set pieces. I seem to recall Butler scored and hit the bar in his only game for us. That said, it was nearly 2 years ago and the lad may well have improved significantly since then. He fits the profile of what we’re after on paper (young, big, just had a good season in League 2).


I’d have liked Tafazolli to have been signed but we don’t know the full details, what wages he was after, what Posh are paying him, whether he is worth it etc. As such, I’ll reserve judgement for now and wait to see who we do recruit in the CB and CM positions.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Oh brilliant!

So you start with the "how many time you seen them" line after I state that I think their signings are of a better standard than ours are, and you haven't even watched any of them yourself either.

The facts available is what most people go on when judging different clubs recruitment, and, to me they say that Tafazolli and Moncur are better signings than Duffy and Hussey. The vast majority would have said the same beforehand.

But if you want to carry on deluding yourself otherwise that's up to you.

I think there is certainly more potential in Tafazoli and Moncur as both are young, up and coming players who have just had impressive seasons and COULD develop into very good players where as Duffy and Hussey are older. But I honestly believe that Duffy must have been the best of the 4 over the course of last season having been named in the team of the year whilst being described as the main man for a team that has just got promotion from this league.


I tend to agree with you that on balance, more blades would have been excited by the signings of Tafa and Moncur than the two we’ve signed but I think most, like myself would acknowledge that they are not really qualified to judge players they’ve only seen a couple of times and so take a wait and see approach regarding the recruitment as a whole rather than laying into the club. When we bring in our 2 CBs, I might have more of an opinion as to whether we should have signed Tafazolli. I really don’t think Moncur would have been the right fit for us and as I say in the above thread, I’d rather have Gilbey or Jackson Irvine from what I know of each player.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Did you say it before they were all signed too?

You prefer Duffy and Hussey. I'd have preferred Tafazolli and Moncur.

It actually makes me laugh what people are willing to do to defend the club.

Can we mix and match? If so, I would go for Duffy and Tafazolli.


I don’t think Moncur is a good fit (though I do think he has potential) and I didn’t know anything about Hussey (tough I like what I’ve read).

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I’ve seen them all play at least once though the 2 who’d performances don’t stick in my mind are Tafazolli and Hussey, probably because they are defenders to less likely to take the game by the scruff of the neck.


Duffy I first saw when we came from behind to beat Scunny in the 2011-12 season at the lane and I was very impressed. He scored a great individual goal that day and I really wanted us to sign him from thereon. I’ve seen him a handful of times since for Scunny/Donny/Burton and whilst he’s generally looked decent, none of the performances have been as good as that first time I saw him. I reckon he could well be a good signing. I just hope we’ve not got him a season too late.


Moncur scored against us at the lane last season and his movement caused us all manner of problems in a first half where they battered us. He is a great threat going forward but in my opinion, can only play as a “number 10”. If Wilder doesn’t choose to set us up that way, I think he’d be pretty useless to us (much like Baxter). The kid is a threat going forward but doesn’t track runners and couldn’t tackle a fish supper. If we were to sign a Colchester player I would prefer Alex Gilbey as he seems to have a better engine, stronger in the tackle and can still pose a threat going forward. i.e. more of a rounded central midfielder which I believe is what Wilder was after.


I really can’t remember a single thing about Hussey but Bury fans displeasure at losing his services bodes well.


Tafazolli, can’t say he stuck out individually. What I would say is that when playing against them, I believe we caused them a lot of problems at set pieces. I seem to recall Butler scored and hit the bar in his only game for us. That said, it was nearly 2 years ago and the lad may well have improved significantly since then. He fits the profile of what we’re after on paper (young, big, just had a good season in League 2).


I’d have liked Tafazolli to have been signed but we don’t know the full details, what wages he was after, what Posh are paying him, whether he is worth it etc. As such, I’ll reserve judgement for now and wait to see who we do recruit in the CB and CM positions.

I think alot of peoples perceptions of Moncur are based on that first 45 minutes in which Colchester batterered us (best away performance at the Lane all season).

At half time I would have signed the entire Colchester team.

 

[wizadry]

Duffy proven at this level, Hussey great going forward, Taff is very tall strong and has excellent positional sense and Moncur has played relatively well in a relegation side.

All four would have been nice but with the transfer fees and wages that have reportedly been quoted then I think we have the right two players if we could've only had two out of the four but ultimately, lets see who else we sign before we get our knickers in a twist.

 

[Ricky]

I’ve seen them all play at least once though the 2 who’d performances don’t stick in my mind are Tafazolli and Hussey, probably because they are defenders to less likely to take the game by the scruff of the neck.


Duffy I first saw when we came from behind to beat Scunny in the 2011-12 season at the lane and I was very impressed. He scored a great individual goal that day and I really wanted us to sign him from thereon. I’ve seen him a handful of times since for Scunny/Donny/Burton and whilst he’s generally looked decent, none of the performances have been as good as that first time I saw him. I reckon he could well be a good signing. I just hope we’ve not got him a season too late.


Moncur scored against us at the lane last season and his movement caused us all manner of problems in a first half where they battered us. He is a great threat going forward but in my opinion, can only play as a “number 10”. If Wilder doesn’t choose to set us up that way, I think he’d be pretty useless to us (much like Baxter). The kid is a threat going forward but doesn’t track runners and couldn’t tackle a fish supper. If we were to sign a Colchester player I would prefer Alex Gilbey as he seems to have a better engine, stronger in the tackle and can still pose a threat going forward. i.e. more of a rounded central midfielder which I believe is what Wilder was after.


I really can’t remember a single thing about Hussey but Bury fans displeasure at losing his services bodes well.


Tafazolli, can’t say he stuck out individually. What I would say is that when playing against them, I believe we caused them a lot of problems at set pieces. I seem to recall Butler scored and hit the bar in his only game for us. That said, it was nearly 2 years ago and the lad may well have improved significantly since then. He fits the profile of what we’re after on paper (young, big, just had a good season in League 2).


I’d have liked Tafazolli to have been signed but we don’t know the full details, what wages he was after, what Posh are paying him, whether he is worth it etc. As such, I’ll reserve judgement for now and wait to see who we do recruit in the CB and CM positions.

I agree about Moncur. Decent player with potential but I don't see where we'd fit him in. He doesn't seem like the type to play from a wide position and doesn't seem like someone who's particularly suitable in a two man midfield. Number 10 seems to be his position but we couldn't justify building around him like that as I don't think he's that good. Generally you can't really build around one player like that in this division because they'll typically be inconsistent, which is why they're in L1 in the first place.

Gilbey is one I should think we're interested in with him being a good all rounder, young and having performed well in this division.