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This has Kal Naismith (Luton) as expiring too.


And David Brooks - hope he can get back playing 🤞

If that list is correct, we should be enquiring about these:
John Swift
Jed Wallace
Jean Seri
Tom Lawrence
Joe Rothwell
Alfie Mawson
Harry Tofollo
Kal Naismith
Yan Dhanda
Alen Halilovic
Tom Lawrence will go to Everton or similar.
 

Pederson is a decent shout for LCB, not so sure why he was released from Brum, Toffolo is a great shout but you would have thought he'd stay at Hudders and even if not we've got Stevens and RND and Lowe so you would imagine unless two of those leave then we'll stick with the remaining two, RND probably first choice?

Edit - apparently Blues offered Pederson a deal but he chose to move on so that sounds promising rather than Brum deciding he wasn't good enough.

We will stick with JLT and end up signing Davies from Liverpool for an "undisclosed fee".
 
What a sad state of affairs. I really hope we don't end up just plugging gaps with academy players, its going to harm their development so much, they need to be out on loan playing every game not sitting on the bench being an unused sub every week, we are going to end up with a generation of Jake Eastwoods.

No signings from abroad, no large fees, no large wages, just picking up what's left
 
We will stick with JLT and end up signing Davies from Liverpool for an "undisclosed fee".
I would imagine knowing Liverpool they'll want a decent fee for him, probably circa £2m, I would say that if Hecky considers Robinson better than Davies which he did towards the end of the season then maybe we should go for someone else to compete with Robinson. Davies is a decent defender but Egan isn't the most physical either and I think that's the main reason Robbo gets in because he get's stuck in and is decent in the air, Davies is more like Egan and i think we need that physicality that Robbo offers. Michael Hector would do that too if he can play LCB.
 
This has Kal Naismith (Luton) as expiring too.


And David Brooks - hope he can get back playing 🤞

If that list is correct, we should be enquiring about these:
John Swift
Jed Wallace
Jean Seri
Tom Lawrence
Joe Rothwell
Alfie Mawson
Harry Tofollo
Kal Naismith
Yan Dhanda
Alen Halilovic

Do they not have an option on Brooks to extend his deal?
 
Do they not have an option on Brooks to extend his deal?
Not seen that mentioned. It's all very quiet on David Brooks as I've had the odd look thinking what's going on. Bournemouth announced their released list yesterday I think it was and he's not released or offered a new contract, it's just like he's still under contract, but fairly sure his deal is up and no mention of a one year option either., I can only guess that Bournemouth are just waiting to see if he's fit to offer him something, who knows!

 
FFS don't give a contract to B Davis , such a weakling , only available half the time
I'm not going to argue that he's not nesh (because he is) but there's some significant stuff going on in Davies's personal life which impacted his availability last season.
 
I'm not going to argue that he's not nesh (because he is) but there's some significant stuff going on in Davies's personal life which impacted his availability last season.
Good player, but a lot going on off the pitch that doubtless affected his performances as well as availability.
I doubt we'll sign him as money involved and Robinson essentially first choice LCB (and hardman) now.
 
Not seen that mentioned. It's all very quiet on David Brooks as I've had the odd look thinking what's going on. Bournemouth announced their released list yesterday I think it was and he's not released or offered a new contract, it's just like he's still under contract, but fairly sure his deal is up and no mention of a one year option either., I can only guess that Bournemouth are just waiting to see if he's fit to offer him something, who knows!

Brooks signed a new deal with Bournemouth a year after he joined. His deal otherwise would have expired this summer, and the length of the new deal wasn’t released by the club (but was described as long-term). You’d assume then that any new contract goes past this summer.
 
Not seen that mentioned. It's all very quiet on David Brooks as I've had the odd look thinking what's going on. Bournemouth announced their released list yesterday I think it was and he's not released or offered a new contract, it's just like he's still under contract, but fairly sure his deal is up and no mention of a one year option either., I can only guess that Bournemouth are just waiting to see if he's fit to offer him something, who knows!



Would be a bit of a cunt move to ditch him after his cancer battle.
 
I would imagine knowing Liverpool they'll want a decent fee for him, probably circa £2m, I would say that if Hecky considers Robinson better than Davies which he did towards the end of the season then maybe we should go for someone else to compete with Robinson. Davies is a decent defender but Egan isn't the most physical either and I think that's the main reason Robbo gets in because he get's stuck in and is decent in the air, Davies is more like Egan and i think we need that physicality that Robbo offers. Michael Hector would do that too if he can play LCB.

Hector is a no nonsense stopper and struggles to play out from the back. I'm 99% sure he's right footed and I don't think would fit in with Utd's style of play even if they could afford his salary demands (which I very much doubt they could - he is/was on a basic of ~£50k/week at Fulham!)
 
The only thing more bizarre than people wanting to get anyone who's ever played for us back is people wanting to get anyone who's ever played for the Pigs in
 
The only thing more bizarre than people wanting to get anyone who's ever played for us back is people wanting to get anyone who's ever played for the Pigs in

Agree but I think that's down to people's sphere of player knowledge. I must admit I'm not as close to player options as I once was e.g. I'd struggle to give 3 x viable LCB options
 

Hector is a no nonsense stopper and struggles to play out from the back. I'm 99% sure he's right footed and I don't think would fit in with Utd's style of play even if they could afford his salary demands (which I very much doubt they could - he is/was on a basic of ~£50k/week at Fulham!)
He'll be lucky to get half of that £50,000 now though. You may be totally right on being right footed, we do need cover for Egan and Bash though, he's an option but he's not great on the ball but then again how bad can he be as he came through at Chelsea and has played regularly for Fulham when in the Championship. He's not my first choice but realistically whoever comes in defence will be backup to the existing three, JLT a possible exception. I'd rather younger players, hence I suggested Opoku, although I know very little on him if honest.
 
The only thing more bizarre than people wanting to get anyone who's ever played for us back is people wanting to get anyone who's ever played for the Pigs in
We can't ever afford to take that approach to be honest JT, if that was the case we'd never have signed David McGoldrick, Gary Madine, Leon Clarke all of which have played huge contributions for us, particularly Clarke and McGoldrick. Going back further you've got Carl Bradshaw and Franz Carr.
 
We can't ever afford to take that approach to be honest JT, if that was the case we'd never have signed David McGoldrick, Gary Madine, Leon Clarke all of which have played huge contributions for us, particularly Clarke and McGoldrick. Going back further you've got Carl Bradshaw and Franz Carr.

I think JT was more on about people wanting the likes of Flint and Hector because they'd heard of them even though they're absolutely terrible
 
We can't ever afford to take that approach to be honest JT, if that was the case we'd never have signed David McGoldrick, Gary Madine, Leon Clarke all of which have played huge contributions for us, particularly Clarke and McGoldrick. Going back further you've got Carl Bradshaw and Franz Carr.

Sometimes it works, but when someone suggests a 30 year old come season start whose last notable contribution was a leg breaker of a tackle on Osula, and has been on loan more times than the average library book, you can only think it's suggested for one of two reasons - either someone's sorting by height (another critical aspect that many here obsess about, regardless of actually being able to play football), or they remember he played for the pork
 
Sometimes it works, but when someone suggests a 30 year old come season start whose last notable contribution was a leg breaker of a tackle on Osula, and has been on loan more times than the average library book, you can only think it's suggested for one of two reasons - either someone's sorting by height (another critical aspect that many here obsess about, regardless of actually being able to play football), or they remember he played for the pork
I watched that tackle v Osula. It seemed clumsy to me/a tackle born of frustration at losing 4 - 0. I'm not saying we sign him but of the free transfers he's one of the better defenders we could get on a free - in my view.

We could do with some height in there in my view, at Championship level I think we do get outmuscled by some sides such as Millwall - Cooper. As I said JT< I suggested Opoku and he can definitely play out from the back from what I've seen.

But on Wednesday connections, I really couldn't care where they've played unless it's signing someone who's a Wednesday favourite then it can be difficult - like if we signed Bannan, which some have suggested, but definitely not me!
 
We could do with some height in there in my view, at Championship level I think we do get outmuscled by some sides such as Millwall - Cooper.

I'd be more worried about the amount of times we're done over at the back by pace, rather than height
 
I'd be more worried about the amount of times we're done over at the back by pace, rather than height
Partly that's because in this league we're often on the front foot, playing a high defensive line and that comes with it's risks against a ball over the top like what Forest did. I don't think much of the current personnel will change for next season at the back so it will be the same re problems with pace but pace causes any defender problems as you say. We can buy someone with height though that will hopefully match many a team in this league that sends up someone like Souttar or Cooper, I don't think we dominate enough teams in either box from that perspective. Buying a defender with pace is probably gonna cost you more than someone who can dominate in the air, but you're totally right we're vulnerable to pacey wingers/forwards.
 
Thing you've got to ask yourself about Cooper is why has he played 200+ Championship games and had zero interest from any Premier League clubs. You would think that if he was a well rounded centre half that someone like a Burnley etc would have been in for him. Heck, see who they replace Tarkowski with. He's got one very good asset, true, but if his overall game makes him a liability at a higher level then that is a fucking huge negative for a team that is in the playoff picture
 
Hector had one of the worst centre half performances against us I’ve seen all season in the 4-0.
..... and one of the best I've seen in the Sheffield derby when he was a one man brick wall

Would be good in middle of a back 3
 
I see everyone's favourite Sawyers has been released.

Not convinced personally. If he puts in the effort every game he's one of the best in the league. Every time I see him he doesn't look bothered. Unless he gets a good kick.
 

I see everyone's favourite Sawyers has been released.

Not convinced personally. If he puts in the effort every game he's one of the best in the league. Every time I see him he doesn't look bothered. Unless he gets a good kick.
Interesting one, when he was at Brentford he seemed to be heading for big things, then his move to his favourite club West Brom didn't seem to work out, his loan move to Stoke doesn't seem to have pulled up many trees but saying that he has had injuries and according to an article I've just read stats wise he was one of Stoke's more creative players. At 30 that's the same age as when we signed McGoldrick and Duffy and Keith Gillespie and Neil Shipperley were around the same age from not that long ago, he could well be an absolute steal on a free, on the other hand he could just be on his way downhill. We do need an attacking mid if Berge goes in particular, I'd personally sign someone younger from League One like Twine but he's not gonna be in our price range you wouldn't think.
 

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