For the greater good of Sheffield Football is now the time to merge?

[mattbianco1]

Why did you bother reading and adding your opinion then?

To give my opinion.

My opinion is "No. Not now. Not Ever !"

I don't think any true Sheffield United (or Wednesday) fan would find many pro's to the argument. It's a nonsense debate. If it happened there would be a massive hole in my heart. i'm a blade and an England fan. If United weren't here life would be shite. I will be on the terraces next season and the season after no matter what league we're in. If we go into administration and have to be thrown out of the league and into the Ryman league. I'd still be there.

 

[Trigger Blade]

To give my opinion.

My opinion is "No. Not now. Not Ever !"

I don't think any true Sheffield United (or Wednesday) fan would find many pro's to the argument. It's a nonsense debate. If it happened there would be a massive hole in my heart. i'm a blade and an England fan. If United weren't here life would be shite. I will be on the terraces next season and the season after no matter what league we're in. If we go into administration and have to be thrown out of the league and into the Ryman league. I'd still be there.

Much as I have a soft spot for Cray Wanderers (and Crittall Athletic if they still exist) through a schooldays friend, the Ryman Leage would be a huge geographical obstacle, and would entail a relocation of Wimbledon proportions.

No, it'll be the Evo-Stik League for us and going to Matlock Town for three points, not a pre-season friendly.

Other than that, I'm with you matt.

 

[super_pig]

i'll wheel out my stock answer for this
you are assuming that having one team rather than two somehow ensures success .. leeds and newcastle would seem to disprove this.. we would end up with one crap team rather than two that is all.

 

[lenners]

i'll wheel out my stock answer for this
you are assuming that having one team rather than two somehow ensures success .. leeds and newcastle would seem to disprove this.. we would end up with one crap team rather than two that is all.

One's in the Prem and has played Champions League football in the last 15 years, the other's heading back there fairly soon and was in the Champions League semi-final a decade ago.
I don't think either's been run particularly well but it's all relative to the shambles that is Sheffield football.

 

[Bladesway]

Both clubs have been in much worse positions, and have been in much better.

Christ, the sky really is falling chicken little.

In some ways they have, but when the gap between the haves and have nots is so big actually we haven't been in a much worse position.

 

[sheffielder]

The other main problem you would have with a merger is that which team folds?

 

[Yossarian]

Both. And it's not a problem.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Both. And it's not a problem.

Pretty easy to say when you're a 1000 miles away

 

[Yossarian]

Why is Austria any different from London?

 

[sheffielder]

Both. And it's not a problem.

So both fold and we start in the conference?

 

[Yossarian]

Being that there stands a good chance of us being in League One and them in League Two next season, is it really that big a leap?

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Why is Austria any different from London?

It isn't. If i was proposing a merger or unfazed by the fact that the new team would start from the conference (Or lower) then it would be equally easy to say.

But i'm not as i find the idea utterly repulsive.

 

[Yossarian]

So geography has no bearing on the matter?

 

[Highbury_Blade]

So geography has no bearing on the matter?

It doesn't if you don't have to mingle with the opposition on a day to day basis.

 

[Yossarian]

They are fellow Sheffielders. Why must they be "The Opposition"?

 

[Highbury_Blade]

if you going to argue about semantics, then perhaps rivals is a more suitable synonym

 

[Yossarian]

Ok. So then on the creation of a new Sheffield club, they would no longer be rivals, opposition, pigs, filth, snortbeasts, or "the other". Do you need such a thing in your life?

 

[alcoblade]

Being that there stands a good chance of us being in League One and them in League Two next season, is it really that big a leap?

We've been there before and fought our way back. We didn't piss and moan and talk about throwing away 120 years of history. It might mean fuck all to you, but there's very little doubt it still does to plenty of others.

UTB

 

[Yossarian]

We've been there before and fought our way back. We didn't piss and moan and talk about throwing away 120 years of history. It might mean fuck all to you, but there's very little doubt it still does to plenty of others.

UTB

The history would still be there. Why would it be "throwing it away"? If the club ceased, and a new one formed.... would everybody automatically have to stop talking or thinking about what has gone before?

 

[alcoblade]

Ok. So then on the creation of a new Sheffield club, they would no longer be rivals, opposition, pigs, filth, snortbeasts, or "the other". Do you need such a thing in your life?

For many peoply, that rivalry is a big chunk of what it's all about. Anyone can jump on the ManUre express for free.

UTB

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Ok. So then on the creation of a new Sheffield club, they would no longer be rivals, opposition, pigs, filth, snortbeasts, or "the other". Do you need such a thing in your life?

If it helps to have a bit of banter with office colleagues who would not normally have much in common with, then yes.

 

[sheffielder]

They are fellow Sheffielders. Why must they be "The Opposition"?

When was the last time you lived in Sheffield? Blades and Pigs have always been two different types of people

 

[Yossarian]

For many peoply, that rivalry is a big chunk of what it's all about. Anyone can jump on the ManUre express for free.

UTB

Yes. I agree. Anybody can go and "support" a club in a different city, by simply talking about them and cheering when they score a goal on the telly. But as nobody is talking about that, I'm not sure why you've raised it.

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When was the last time you lived in Sheffield? Blades and Pigs have always been two different types of people

And there are many different types of people that support each club. WalthamstowBlade and I are two very different people. Yet amazingly, we can share the same allegiance when the team steps out onto the pitch. It's miraculous really.

 

[sheffielder]

If it helps to have a bit of banter with office colleagues who would not normally have much in common with, then yes.

The nearest club to what this would become is Leeds. I don't think I need to add to this

 

[Yossarian]

If it helps to have a bit of banter with office colleagues who would not normally have much in common with, then yes.

My god I wonder how fans of Newcastle United (a club that is the result of a merger, by the way) do when they are at work without a second club in the city.

 

[sheffielder]

Yes. I agree. Anybody can go and "support" a club in a different city, by simply talking about them and cheering when they score a goal on the telly. But as nobody is talking about that, I'm not sure why you've raised it.

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And there are many different types of people that support each club. WalthamstowBlade and I are two very different people. Yet amazingly, we can share the same allegiance when the team steps out onto the pitch. It's miraculous really.

Highbury and I are probably two very different people, yet we both love United and hate Wednesday. That will never change

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My god I wonder how fans of Newcastle United (a club that is the result of a merger, by the way) do when they are at work without a second club in the city.

The difference being that Newcastle never had a 2nd club in their City. If Liverpool and Everton didn't win anything in the next 5 years should they merge. This is all becoming very American. Maybe we should just have a franchise and if it didn't work we could move it to a different city

 

[Highbury_Blade]

My god I wonder how fans of Newcastle United (a club that is the result of a merger, by the way) do when they are at work without a second club in the city.

I dunno, perhaps they have rousing choruses of "Fog on the tyne."

Woo, they chucked away a whopping 10 years of history. It doesn't compare.

 

[Yossarian]

Highbury and I are probably two very different people, yet we both love United and hate Wednesday. That will never change

And it won't have to. However, it would be a little harder for you if they didn't exist.

The difference being that Newcastle never had a 2nd club in their City. If Liverpool and Everton didn't win anything in the next 5 years should they merge. This is all becoming very American. Maybe we should just have a franchise and if it didn't work we could move it to a different city

This would suggest it's not such an American ideal to merge clubs.

 

[lenners]

In some ways they have, but when the gap between the haves and have nots is so big actually we haven't been in a much worse position.

Nail on the head.
As for creating a merged team, it wasn't difficult to create MK Dons and as such an idea would get Premiership support in business terms it would be straightforward unless some teams see it as a threat.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

This would suggest it's not an American ideal to merge clubs.

Lots of famous names in that list! A merger between 2 clubs of the size of SUFC and SUFC (evening at our current lowly levels) would be unprecedented.