Fleck

[Ricky]

Norwood doesn’t run with the ball or move enough to play there for, he would inevitably drop deep to get on the ball leaving the top two isolated.

Coutts has looked way off it, I wouldn’t want rely on him this season, big pre season for him in the summer or that may be it for him here

My post may have been slightly tongue in cheek....

 

[Pinchy]

Burton and Olivier wouldn't have ever been cast on their own merits alone.

I’m afraid anybody who ever directed a theatrical performance is currently shouting ‘oh yes they would’ at the top of their voice.

Are you suggesting only a Fleck clone can replace Fleck? Maybe someone can do it differently and better?

My analogy was entirely in point. One of my finest. Richard and Larry would have loved it, but in very different ways.

 

[Blade for Sale]

You can play proper football perfectly well with a big centre-forward.

Correct. Bassett did it with Deane very succesfully.

 

[zablade]

My post may have been slightly tongue in cheek....

Just seen Stearman there.. and Egan RCB.

..., I get it now

 

[Blade for Sale]

Are you suggesting only a Fleck clone can replace Fleck? Maybe someone can do it differently and better?

No, I'm pointing out the obvious, that if you don't replace Fleck with a Fleck clone, then you inevitably change the dynamic of the team in some way, and if the rest of the team doesn't react well to the dynamic, you have a problem. As has been pointed out to you, your choice of replacement is, putting it kindly, unused to playing the Fleck role, and to shoehorn him into the position would be at best optimistic, at worst blindly stupid.

 

[Pinchy]

Correct. Bassett did it with Deane very succesfully.

If only those days could return, eh? It’s what us S2 intellectuals long for. Upanatem and Nowt-Fancy, the Basset-Beck way. What fools are the rest of the football world, rejecting such sublimity?

Wally Downes. Wally Fucking Downes.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

If only those days could return, eh? It’s what us S2 intellectuals long for. Upanatem and Nowt-Fancy, the Basset-Beck way. What fools are the rest of the football world, rejecting such sublimity?

Wally Downes. Wally Fucking Downes.

Irrespective of the style of the time, can you imagine what CW would do with front two of Sharp and Deane?

 

[Pinchy]

No, I'm pointing out the obvious, that if you don't replace Fleck with a Fleck clone, then you inevitably change the dynamic of the team in some way, and if the rest of the team doesn't react well to the dynamic, you have a problem. As has been pointed out to you, your choice of replacement is, putting it kindly, unused to playing the Fleck role, and to shoehorn him into the position would be at best optimistic, at worst blindly stupid.

As has been pointed out to you, Fleck is a liability at the moment, as observed by those without stars in their eyes. The Fleck role, as currently performed by...Fleck, is not pleasing to discerning, well-informed observers. Gerroffthestage.

 

[Pinchy]

Irrespective of the style of the time, can you imagine what CW would do with front two of Sharp and Deane?

Yes. Produce infinitely better football than Bassett would with the same pair.

 

[Bill Johnson]

If only those days could return, eh? It’s what us S2 intellectuals long for. Upanatem and Nowt-Fancy, the Basset-Beck way. What fools are the rest of the football world, rejecting such sublimity?

Wally Downes. Wally Fucking Downes.

Why?
Just fucking Why?

Everyone's in agreement on this one issue but you have to play the same 8 track beta fucking max yet again.

 

[Blade for Sale]

If only those days could return, eh? It’s what us S2 intellectuals long for. Upanatem and Nowt-Fancy, the Basset-Beck way. What fools are the rest of the football world, rejecting such sublimity?

Wally Downes. Wally Fucking Downes.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Yes. Produce infinitely better football than Bassett would with the same pair.

Whisper it, but I don't actually think we ever got the best out of Deano. For a big, gangly lad he was surprisingly skilful with the ball at his feet, he would blend well with this team.

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

I know that I speak for all of us in highlighting how fortunate we are to have our own version of the Delphic Oracle to help us with our understanding of all things football the rest of us being unable to accurately discern what we should be seeing despite some of us having watched football for fifty years or so. A hearty thank you to our good friend Pinchy.
**Other points of view are valid too**

 

[knowsnowt]

Fleck is a liability at the moment, as observed by those without stars in their eye.

You're a mentalist.

 

[Pinchy]

Why?
Just fucking Why?

Everyone's in agreement on this one issue but you have to play the same 8 track beta fucking max yet again.

What is it upon which everyone is in agreement?

Why hark back to fucking Bassett at every opportunity, no matter how tenuous? Just fucking why?

 

[Pinchy]

You're a mentalist.

Yet the official forum sage Deadbat, seems to share that view.

Funny old game.

 

[idleurchin]

On Twitter now that a second bid has been made.

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/01/...ake-second-bid-for-sheffield-uniteds-john-fl/

 

[Revolution]

No, I'm pointing out the obvious, that if you don't replace Fleck with a Fleck clone, then you inevitably change the dynamic of the team in some way, and if the rest of the team doesn't react well to the dynamic, you have a problem. As has been pointed out to you, your choice of replacement is, putting it kindly, unused to playing the Fleck role, and to shoehorn him into the position would be at best optimistic, at worst blindly stupid.

I am reminded of January 2004, when United sold Michael Brown to Spurs for a song about 5 minutes after the transfer window opened, and replaced him with Monty.

We were in the playoff places and in touch with automatic when this happened. We finished 8th.

Don't get rid of a first teamer without having a reasonable replacement. Wilder knows this, of course. Hopefully the board won't screw him over.

 

[Pinchy]

Whisper it, but I don't actually think we ever got the best out of Deano. For a big, gangly lad he was surprisingly skilful with the ball at his feet, he would blend well with this team.

Oh I agree entirely. I have never had a bad word to say about Brian Deane. Quite the contrary. A proper footballer.

 

[Ranmoorblade]

Irrespective of the style of the time, can you imagine what CW would do with front two of Sharp and Deane?

Brian Deane and Billy Sharp

Biggledy biggledy bip

Put em together what have you got

Top of the championship.

 

[knowsnowt]

Yet the official forum sage Deadbat, seems to share that view.

Funny old game.

CW fielding a "liability". Ok.

 

[Pinchy]

I know that I speak for all of us in highlighting how fortunate we are to have our own version of the Delphic Oracle to help us with our understanding of all things football the rest of us being unable to accurately discern what we should be seeing despite some of us having watched football for fifty years or so. A hearty thank you to our good friend Pinchy.
**Other points of view are valid too**

Only fifty? Wet behind the ears.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

On Twitter now that a second bid has been made.

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/01/...ake-second-bid-for-sheffield-uniteds-john-fl/

As reliable a sauce, as that bottle of brown stuff poundland sell.

 

[Harry's Game]

On Twitter now that a second bid has been made.

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/01/...ake-second-bid-for-sheffield-uniteds-john-fl/

Yeah but this Hitc and quoting the Sun.

I am expecting and second bid and sale Thursday though, too early this.

 

[Pinchy]

Brian Deane and Billy Sharp

Biggledy biggledy bip

Put em together what have you got

Top of the championship.

Contrived and the first line doesn’t scan.

You’ve got four yesses.

 

[Pinchy]

Yeah but this Hitc and quoting the Sun.

I am expecting and second bid and sale Thursday though, too early this.

Alert the Side-Splitting Infirmary.

 

[Harry's Game]

Alert the Side-Splitting Infirmary.

Burst with your own self importance? Sounds nasty..

Thoughts with your family and fr..... oh!

Well just family

 

[Ricky]

Very promising...


"The Sun reports that West Ham initially offered £4 million for Fleck but Sheffield United turned the bid down as they are determined to keep one of their most important players at Bramall Lane.

But West Ham have not given up just yet. And, interestingly, the report adds that Chris Wilder’s Blades could be willing to let Fleck grab his chance in the Premier League if they can find a replacement before this week’s transfer deadline."

 

[Upton_Blade]

Dowell always played attacking midfield for Forest. Could he be moulded into Fleck's position? I doubt it, based on his work rate and lack of aggression, but he might be a better bet than many who we could sign.




Not entirely sure what that's based on but it's a very interesting list. Callum Robinson stands out to me, still being on there despite being injured for the last 3 months.

It's all stats based. I think they explained the criteria earlier in the season when they started doing it. When i've got a bit more time later i'll see if i can dig it out.

 

[Ricky]

It's all stats based. I think they explained the criteria earlier in the season when they started doing it. When i've got a bit more time later i'll see if i can dig it out.

Looks like it's all here. https://www.skysports.com/football/...-are-the-sky-sports-power-rankings-calculated

It won't be flawless but clearly carries a lot of weight.