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bladesmanluke said:
What the fuck are you on about? I dont know one blade in person who thinks he's a cunt. Idiot
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It will be a real shame if Wilder is judged on the end of season results. Yes he cocked up and made a real mess of the Play Off final.
Why he keeps picking Robinson only he knows. It certainly cost us and certainly one of the reasons it may cost him his job.
If he does go let’s all remember what he has brought to the Club as a whole and forget about his pissed up antics after certain games.
OK we were served up a load of tripe this season in the playing style and strange selections but we have also had our share of good times
Wether he is capable of adapting to the new changes the Board are looking at bringing in remains to be seen
It may be time for a change and if so we do need to get behind the new guy in charge and give Wilder the send off he certainly deserves
 

54yrblade said:
Ok, let's try shall we?

The calamitous week when we dropped lots of points
Not performing against our promotion rivals
Tactically outthought by weaker teams
Not replacing Souttar
Unable to change a game
Front foot football apparently a distant concept
Lack of bravery
Defensive mindset when we go behind
Auto in our hands and he dropped it

We were part of a top three who have all benefitted hugely from PL finances and parachute payments. Two succeeded, we failed. We didn't lose promotion in the last minute, it was lost well before then. Sunderland went to the last minute, but we gave up and heads dropped again after our disallowed second goal.

92 points is irrelevant now. We're still where we started last season and there's no medals for over 90 points. Had he spent less time bleating about the deduction and spent it on some of the above, then maybe, just maybe, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

I trust I've spelled that all correctly?

UTB!
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Hello Richard. ...... have a think !!
 
mickle-blade said:
It will be a real shame if Wilder is judged on the end of season results. Yes he cocked up and made a real mess of the Play Off final.
Why he keeps picking Robinson only he knows. It certainly cost us and certainly one of the reasons it may cost him his job.
If he does go let’s all remember what he has brought to the Club as a whole and forget about his pissed up antics after certain games.
OK we were served up a load of tripe this season in the playing style and strange selections but we have also had our share of good times
Wether he is capable of adapting to the new changes the Board are looking at bringing in remains to be seen
It may be time for a change and if so we do need to get behind the new guy in charge and give Wilder the send off he certainly deserves
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I won't judge him purely on that.

He brought some incredible things to us 2016 onwards, and hugely thankful for that but V2.0 isn't the same. He's a changed man, more defensive, chirpy and brought some off field baggage we can well do without.

A manager who hit on a model and did incredibly well building that juggernaut but it's not the same. Not anywhere near it.

I'd be really interested to read a deep dive into what happened behind the scenes in both his tenure, not from a Blades/ Wilder leaning journo either.

There's always more to what we see and the noise on the surface.

UTB
 
Just out of interest, what do him and mates get up to in the boozer when they’ve had a few? At the end of the day if he’s just out having a laugh with mates and letting his hair down, but I’ll admit I am a twat for wanting to know any salacious gossip,
 
do we really want a pious stright laced , would not upset anyone sort as a manager

so he slags off our biggest rivals manager who had insulted us prior to both derbies
I suppose you want him to send Rhol some flowers for regret about beating them twice , how unsporting of us
 
robbiez666 said:
It's a fair comment if you weren't painting the guy who skulked out the back door with millions as doing it for the love of his club.
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How many hundreds of millions did he earn for the club though.

Fair reward I say.

No one ever mentions how much Slav and his assistants trousered for his six month stint with the club, for what achievement.
So is he also a cunt ?

Or is the anti Wilder narrative that he was a progressive foreign manager who just wasn't backed properly by PA.
 
robbiez666 said:
Having had the privilege on several occasions of being in the same pub as him and his mates, I have zero doubt he's a major cnut.

He's not the kind of person I would ever want to be anywhere near.
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It sounds like youve been near him on several occasions?😂
 
Nah, he’s oreyt.

Everyone can be a bit cnutish at times I suppose but he’s certainly not standing out in a field of cnuts.
 
54yrblade said:
I won't judge him purely on that.

He brought some incredible things to us 2016 onwards, and hugely thankful for that but V2.0 isn't the same. He's a changed man, more defensive, chirpy and brought some off field baggage we can well do without.

A manager who hit on a model and did incredibly well building that juggernaut but it's not the same. Not anywhere near it.

I'd be really interested to read a deep dive into what happened behind the scenes in both his tenure, not from a Blades/ Wilder leaning journo either.

There's always more to what we see and the noise on the surface.

UTB
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I agree this version of Wilder is not the same. From 2016 he did an incredible job.
I want to see us at the top of our game week in and week out. Not to be frightened playing attacking football with some flair. I don’t think v2 of Wilder can deliver this.
 
blade too long said:
do we really want a pious stright laced , would not upset anyone sort as a manager

so he slags off our biggest rivals manager who had insulted us prior to both derbies
I suppose you want him to send Rhol some flowers for regret about beating them twice , how unsporting of us
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If you mean one like any number of PL, European and Championship managers who know how to represent their club professionally and without having hangers on filming their exploits and pressing 'send' to the world then yes.

That would be an upgrade on Wilder.
 
Nick Jansky said:
That isn’t an anti Wilder narrative. It’s what happened. It had nothing to do with Wilder.
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Slav never got the wingers his system needed. I assume he accepted the job on the condition he'd get some players who fit the way he wanted to play. Because he didn't, I find it difficult to judge him.

I would've loved to see Rak-Sakyi and Brooks play under Slav this season.
 
54yrblade said:
If you mean one like any number of PL, European and Championship managers who know how to represent their club professionally and without having hangers on filming their exploits and pressing 'send' to the world then yes.

That would be an upgrade on Wilder.
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Really? Chris has a few beers and behaves like a fan. Sorry but I’d much rather that what you describe. Wednesday fans slag him off but we all know scratch under the surface and they are very jealous / envious. 92 points means he should get another crack. You go and support a team with a very clean cut/ nice guy.
 
I do get the feeling he is going, if it happens because the board want to take the club in a different direction, no arguments from me. That's their right, I will support the club and hope it works.

I hope they don't do this because of his "antics".

Yes, maybe he cares a bit too much and somehow needs to learn to cope with pressure situations better, but in a world of overly media trained, dull "professionals", I like the character.

Feels a bit like wind turbines, everyone one wants them, but not on my doorstep.

If the CEO of Pepsi was filmed singing songs about coca cola, I would love that and would probably buy some.
 

While the shit show over in S6 rumbles on, it’s a convenient way of masking the thoroughly unprofessional way this whole Wilder in / Wilder Out fiasco has played out in public.

Whatever your thoughts on the man, past present or future, he is human and should not be subject to this Tom foolery. I hope he has thick enough skin to not allow it to affect his mental health, as it most surely would for many other people.

Whatever happens, the man has dedicated large chunks of his life to this football club as a player (underrated in my opinion) and as a manager that has served with distinction and has a record that few other managers in our entire history can match.

It needs sorting and it needs sorting NOW.

You will see the situation becoming untenable if it drags on much longer (and may very well have already come to that).

If this is how these new business oriented owners of ours conduct themselves, than it’s not a very good fucking start fellas.

Is it ??

UTB
 
Is there only me that is sick of reading this 92pts bollocks, where did it get us? We got those 92pts from the poorest Championship in a long long time even the pigs managed to finish around mid table.
Look at our results against the teams finishing top 4 won one lost five how often have both teams promoted automatically got 100pts? It was a shit division and we fell short then blew the chance to make amends by losing to a team who finished miles behind us. Says it all that Sunderland were guaranteed fourth place weeks before the season ended thats how bad the division was.
 
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Hillsboro Blade said:
Just out of interest, what do him and mates get up to in the boozer when they’ve had a few? At the end of the day if he’s just out having a laugh with mates and letting his hair down, but I’ll admit I am a twat for wanting to know any salacious gossip,
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Yeah, to be fair, that is pretty twatish..
 
DronnieBlade said:
If this is how these new business oriented owners of ours conduct themselves, than it’s not a very good fucking start fellas.

Is it ??

UTB
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No win situation

Had they pulled the trigger within 48 hours of Wembley people would be saying a knee jerk reaction


They take time to reflect and they’re slagged off for dragging it on?!

Who knows where the leak about the review has come from, and it shouldn’t have, but I’d rather them take time over such a call.

Forget the 92 points, as they counted for fuck all in the end, performances and his antics are what will sink him should it happen
 
DronnieBlade said:
While the shit show over in S6 rumbles on, it’s a convenient way of masking the thoroughly unprofessional way this whole Wilder in / Wilder Out fiasco has played out in public.

Whatever your thoughts on the man, past present or future, he is human and should not be subject to this Tom foolery. I hope he has thick enough skin to not allow it to affect his mental health, as it most surely would for many other people.

Whatever happens, the man has dedicated large chunks of his life to this football club as a player (underrated in my opinion) and as a manager that has served with distinction and has a record that few other managers in our entire history can match.

It needs sorting and it needs sorting NOW.

You will see the situation becoming untenable if it drags on much longer (and may very well have already come to that).

If this is how these new business oriented owners of ours conduct themselves, than it’s not a very good fucking start fellas.

Is it ??

UTB
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This whole situation is ridiculous. Why it's being conducted in public is beyond me. Both sides are bringing the club into disrepute, the owners and the manager. This should be taking place behind closed doors. It seems like both sides are using the media. Imagine if it pans out that he stays? How on earth does that work?
 
Cheeky Blade said:
Nah, he’s oreyt.

Everyone can be a bit cnutish at times I suppose but he’s certainly not standing out in a field of cnuts.
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You're right.

When we had the misfortune to share a hotel bar with him and his mates he didn't particularly stand out.

All the loutish loud mouth bigots were much the same but if he wants to be a football manager he needs to pick his mates better.

They do him no favours but he laps it up.
 
coolasanidiot said:
Really? Chris has a few beers and behaves like a fan. Sorry but I’d much rather that what you describe. Wednesday fans slag him off but we all know scratch under the surface and they are very jealous / envious. 92 points means he should get another crack. You go and support a team with a very clean cut/ nice guy.
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Crack on. Year 55 at BDTBL coming round for me. Leave my choice of club to me?

Successful teams have managers who don't 'behave like a fan' but you are very welcome to your opinion too.
 
blade too long said:
do we really want a pious stright laced , would not upset anyone sort as a manager

so he slags off our biggest rivals manager who had insulted us prior to both derbies
I suppose you want him to send Rhol some flowers for regret about beating them twice , how unsporting of us
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John Harris would probably have achieved more if he fought with the opposition and was often found pissed in the Crazy Daizy by your usual logic. John Short could have offered fans out in the Green Un letters page.
 
robbiez666 said:
I'm pretty sure the CEO of Pepsi would be sacked the next day.
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Depends what happened to their share price. If it went up, they would probably get a bonus...

If he called him a cnut, then yes.

If he sang:

We are Pepsi cola...
We like proper drinks..
You can stick your coca cola
Use it to clean sinks.

Allez, allez allez....

It would go viral and would probably get a pay rise.
 

Wilder is not a cunt okay he slipped up last season we all know it.
Now a cunt through and through is him at stadium of rust. Despot Chansiri.
 
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