Entitled Supporters

[Keef Chedwyn]

The like is for “perspective”...

Must admit, I prefer the 'let's not get ahead of ourselves' posts after a couple of decent results.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Having started going in the late 70s I’ve seen far more downs than ups following the Blades. But whilst I agree with some of the OP I do think some people get too upset about criticism from our fans. It’s a passionate thing following a football team and I think it’s fine for fans to give their views, good or bad, as long as they don’t get personal. It’s also worth pointing out that Wilder himself has been far more critical of the team than most of our fans.

It's a good job politics is banned

UTB

 

[I should coco]

It's not just Facebook.

Sadly, I still can still painfully recall the 'Wilder needs to go' tripe after we drew at home to Millwall last year and it looked like the playoffs.

Like most clubs, we have a large rump of fans with the foresight and perspective of goldfish.

 

[Bladesthorpe]

Whilst perusing social media yesterday after the match, and indeed after the last few matches I've made a general observation.

I've been a United supporter for over 35 years, and a season ticket holder for the last 20 seasons.

I've also watched United in the very depths of the wilderness years, and rightly seen certain United sides take absolute pelters for a lack of effort, not giving a shit, and recall the lap of shame at the end of the Adkins season. However it does appear those same supporters who was critical in those times, generally aren't those same supporters who are the ones who are giving the team absolute pelters now.

I'm disappointed with how things have gone since the restart, but also accept these are strange times, and I think the lack of people in the ground is having a huge, negative effect on the players who we have become accustomed to getting that 5% from thanks to the crowd backing.

We've got a young striker with a big price tag who hasn't hidden from anything during a difficult transition to top flight football, not been frightened to stick his head in where it hurts and has grafted his bollocks off for the cause, and who will with the right backing become a very handy player at this level. The fans response, call him McShitty.

Stevens has a bad game, the response, call him shit. Basham and Fleck have a poor game, one coming back from injury, the response, get shit flung their way. Wilder doesn't use the full 5 subs, his managerial ability is called in to question.

This squad of players don't owe us anything. 4 years ago we was in League One with no real prospect of an escape on the horizon. We now sit in the top half of the Premiership, thanks to the squad of players we have got caring, giving a shit and giving everything to the cause.

Before the start of the season, we was widely tipped to finish rock bottom this season, by many media pundits, as well as most football supporters of other teams. We now sit in the top half of the Premiership and to all intents and purposes safe from relegation.

So why are some so angry, and quick to have a go at the players and the managers.

Isn't the wonderful season we had until the suspension of football in the country good enough?

Don't the players Wilder has brought in deserve to be afforded time, and don't the players who have performed admirably in the past in getting us to where we are deserve a bit of grace as they hit a patch of bad form after struggling to adapt to the restart?

Is Wilder the problem? Does the fact that he has done so well over the last 4 years in getting us to where we are go out of the window, and he has become a bad manager overnight because he has presided over a poor run of form, and doesn't use all his substutions?

Or do we need to all sit back, take a look at the bigger picture and give the manager and players great credit for getting to where they are, and if we don't get in to Europe, accept it and understand we spent a long time chasing a prize we had no right to chase due to the huge disparity in money we spend compared to the others we are competing again.

Personally i think there is an element of our fan base who have allowed themselves to become entitled, and I think a lot of them used to be the same tantrum throwing, feet stampers who used to trot out lines like "I'm not going to Bramall Lane and giving United mi moneh while they are this wank", only to jump back on the bandwagon when things came good, and now we have hit a sticky spell have reverted to type. They players aren't 'bottlejobs' and whoever it was who coined the term "McShitty" had made himself look a prized twat.

We've had a superb season, the future is still very bright for United and under this manager and under this squad of players, great things are still to come and we only will stronger, now we have got a bit of Premier League experience and nous, it will improve us. Prehaps people who have been so quick to criticse should really begin to accept what we have done and appreciate the magnitude of what we have achieved.

In Wilder We Trust

UTB

Not a good enough post, to much use of the shit word.
Seriously you should realise that out of 30000 fans maybe a hundred are regular contributors to this forum, a very small minority to base your assumption of entitlement on.
I've missed 6 home matches in the last 65 seasons and I can tell you before the days of the keyboard warriors I've heard much worse. Most of these critics have never kicked a ball, coached or managed at professional level but are still entitled to their opinion however misguided.

 

[Charlieblade]

While perspective is important, patience is also appropriate in this case.
The club is, and will be near the bottom when it comes to spending money, on transfer fees, agents, wages, and also implementing future improvements, at the academy, training facilities and fan comforts at the ground.
On the plus side, Wilder and our current owner are on the same page, regarding all these expensive ideas for future improvements.
Any “entitled” fans can sit down and zip it now. We are heading in the right direction, with management and ownership of one mind on the way ahead. All that is required of fans, is to be patient, and wait for all those identified improvements to be dealt with, by our trusted and thrifty leadership.
The priority will always be to establish the club in the premier league, while maintaining financial viability. A stable club will last much longer than a few seasons, while the instant gratification some dream of will lead to failure, and the kind of financial crisis that we are witnessing in S6.
That’s what happens when you lack structure, quality management and patience.
I hope this puts things in “perspective for everyone.

Edited to add: All this will take more than one season, probably more than two, now sit back a joy the ride.

 

[Revolution]

The idea of Sheffield United fans as entitled is laughable.

people are disappointed we are failing off after a stellar first three quarters of the season. Some are very frustrated. Some express themselves crudely or perhaps go too far, no doubt.

but for every post calling McBurnie names I’ve seen a dozen posts giving thoughtful comments on his play. Some of that is criticism, much of it defensible.

what exactly are people allowed to say?

 

[Blade in Brid]

Whilst perusing social media yesterday after the match, and indeed after the last few matches I've made a general observation.

I've been a United supporter for over 35 years, and a season ticket holder for the last 20 seasons.

I've also watched United in the very depths of the wilderness years, and rightly seen certain United sides take absolute pelters for a lack of effort, not giving a shit, and recall the lap of shame at the end of the Adkins season. However it does appear those same supporters who was critical in those times, generally aren't those same supporters who are the ones who are giving the team absolute pelters now.

I'm disappointed with how things have gone since the restart, but also accept these are strange times, and I think the lack of people in the ground is having a huge, negative effect on the players who we have become accustomed to getting that 5% from thanks to the crowd backing.

We've got a young striker with a big price tag who hasn't hidden from anything during a difficult transition to top flight football, not been frightened to stick his head in where it hurts and has grafted his bollocks off for the cause, and who will with the right backing become a very handy player at this level. The fans response, call him McShitty.

Stevens has a bad game, the response, call him shit. Basham and Fleck have a poor game, one coming back from injury, the response, get shit flung their way. Wilder doesn't use the full 5 subs, his managerial ability is called in to question.

This squad of players don't owe us anything. 4 years ago we was in League One with no real prospect of an escape on the horizon. We now sit in the top half of the Premiership, thanks to the squad of players we have got caring, giving a shit and giving everything to the cause.

Before the start of the season, we was widely tipped to finish rock bottom this season, by many media pundits, as well as most football supporters of other teams. We now sit in the top half of the Premiership and to all intents and purposes safe from relegation.

So why are some so angry, and quick to have a go at the players and the managers.

Isn't the wonderful season we had until the suspension of football in the country good enough?

Don't the players Wilder has brought in deserve to be afforded time, and don't the players who have performed admirably in the past in getting us to where we are deserve a bit of grace as they hit a patch of bad form after struggling to adapt to the restart?

Is Wilder the problem? Does the fact that he has done so well over the last 4 years in getting us to where we are go out of the window, and he has become a bad manager overnight because he has presided over a poor run of form, and doesn't use all his substutions?

Or do we need to all sit back, take a look at the bigger picture and give the manager and players great credit for getting to where they are, and if we don't get in to Europe, accept it and understand we spent a long time chasing a prize we had no right to chase due to the huge disparity in money we spend compared to the others we are competing again.

Personally i think there is an element of our fan base who have allowed themselves to become entitled, and I think a lot of them used to be the same tantrum throwing, feet stampers who used to trot out lines like "I'm not going to Bramall Lane and giving United mi moneh while they are this wank", only to jump back on the bandwagon when things came good, and now we have hit a sticky spell have reverted to type. They players aren't 'bottlejobs' and whoever it was who coined the term "McShitty" had made himself look a prized twat.

We've had a superb season, the future is still very bright for United and under this manager and under this squad of players, great things are still to come and we only will stronger, now we have got a bit of Premier League experience and nous, it will improve us. Prehaps people who have been so quick to criticse should really begin to accept what we have done and appreciate the magnitude of what we have achieved.

In Wilder We Trust

UTB

Totally agree, well said sir.

 

[Davalon]

what exactly are people allowed to say?

Ask the Marxists

 

[metalblade]

Whilst perusing social media yesterday after the match, and indeed after the last few matches I've made a general observation.

I've been a United supporter for over 35 years, and a season ticket holder for the last 20 seasons.

I've also watched United in the very depths of the wilderness years, and rightly seen certain United sides take absolute pelters for a lack of effort, not giving a shit, and recall the lap of shame at the end of the Adkins season. However it does appear those same supporters who was critical in those times, generally aren't those same supporters who are the ones who are giving the team absolute pelters now.

I'm disappointed with how things have gone since the restart, but also accept these are strange times, and I think the lack of people in the ground is having a huge, negative effect on the players who we have become accustomed to getting that 5% from thanks to the crowd backing.

We've got a young striker with a big price tag who hasn't hidden from anything during a difficult transition to top flight football, not been frightened to stick his head in where it hurts and has grafted his bollocks off for the cause, and who will with the right backing become a very handy player at this level. The fans response, call him McShitty.

Stevens has a bad game, the response, call him shit. Basham and Fleck have a poor game, one coming back from injury, the response, get shit flung their way. Wilder doesn't use the full 5 subs, his managerial ability is called in to question.

This squad of players don't owe us anything. 4 years ago we was in League One with no real prospect of an escape on the horizon. We now sit in the top half of the Premiership, thanks to the squad of players we have got caring, giving a shit and giving everything to the cause.

Before the start of the season, we was widely tipped to finish rock bottom this season, by many media pundits, as well as most football supporters of other teams. We now sit in the top half of the Premiership and to all intents and purposes safe from relegation.

So why are some so angry, and quick to have a go at the players and the managers.

Isn't the wonderful season we had until the suspension of football in the country good enough?

Don't the players Wilder has brought in deserve to be afforded time, and don't the players who have performed admirably in the past in getting us to where we are deserve a bit of grace as they hit a patch of bad form after struggling to adapt to the restart?

Is Wilder the problem? Does the fact that he has done so well over the last 4 years in getting us to where we are go out of the window, and he has become a bad manager overnight because he has presided over a poor run of form, and doesn't use all his substutions?

Or do we need to all sit back, take a look at the bigger picture and give the manager and players great credit for getting to where they are, and if we don't get in to Europe, accept it and understand we spent a long time chasing a prize we had no right to chase due to the huge disparity in money we spend compared to the others we are competing again.

Personally i think there is an element of our fan base who have allowed themselves to become entitled, and I think a lot of them used to be the same tantrum throwing, feet stampers who used to trot out lines like "I'm not going to Bramall Lane and giving United mi moneh while they are this wank", only to jump back on the bandwagon when things came good, and now we have hit a sticky spell have reverted to type. They players aren't 'bottlejobs' and whoever it was who coined the term "McShitty" had made himself look a prized twat.

We've had a superb season, the future is still very bright for United and under this manager and under this squad of players, great things are still to come and we only will stronger, now we have got a bit of Premier League experience and nous, it will improve us. Prehaps people who have been so quick to criticse should really begin to accept what we have done and appreciate the magnitude of what we have achieved.

In Wilder We Trust

UTB

I have to say you have got a lot right with the OP but I cant agree with the statement that those giving the team pelters in league one have suddenly reverted to type that is utter bollocks. I was one of the most critical fans when we were watching the shit from the Clough and Adkins teams and I ain't ever been a fan of McCabe, myself and one or two more were always swimming up stream on this message board but you don't see me moaning now if I did it would be a moan at our fans you know the ones who see themselves has "always been behind the team" types. The way the big money signing have been treat has been disgusting to be honest the more we spent the worse it got £7m Robinson was first to cop it, maybe one reason he was loaned out by CW, £10m Moussett started of OK but he is starting to get abuse now. £17m McBurnie can't do owt right in some eyes although to be fair a DD charge and signs at a Swansea game haven't help his cause. Then we come to Sander Berge' at £20+m if I were him I'd have given up by now, a young lad new to the country, the team, the system we play and the Premier league and all he gets every week is he is shit get him sold. Don't forget he is a long way from home in lockdown probably wondering if he has made a huge mistake coming to this club if he has been reading the shit some of the experts on here spout after every game.
No it isn't the old moaners from League one days that have chimed up now we are having a rough patch it is the small minded crew who still think buying a player for £1m gets you international class, the days when you could spend £40k and get Brian Deane have long gone. Add a few bandwagon jumpers and you find the ones making the most row just now, I dread to think what they would be saying if we had bought Joe Linton he looks a proper donkey for what was it £40m?

 

[BigBed]

Whilst perusing social media yesterday after the match, and indeed after the last few matches I've made a general observation.

I've been a United supporter for over 35 years, and a season ticket holder for the last 20 seasons.

I've also watched United in the very depths of the wilderness years, and rightly seen certain United sides take absolute pelters for a lack of effort, not giving a shit, and recall the lap of shame at the end of the Adkins season. However it does appear those same supporters who was critical in those times, generally aren't those same supporters who are the ones who are giving the team absolute pelters now.

I'm disappointed with how things have gone since the restart, but also accept these are strange times, and I think the lack of people in the ground is having a huge, negative effect on the players who we have become accustomed to getting that 5% from thanks to the crowd backing.

We've got a young striker with a big price tag who hasn't hidden from anything during a difficult transition to top flight football, not been frightened to stick his head in where it hurts and has grafted his bollocks off for the cause, and who will with the right backing become a very handy player at this level. The fans response, call him McShitty.

Stevens has a bad game, the response, call him shit. Basham and Fleck have a poor game, one coming back from injury, the response, get shit flung their way. Wilder doesn't use the full 5 subs, his managerial ability is called in to question.

This squad of players don't owe us anything. 4 years ago we was in League One with no real prospect of an escape on the horizon. We now sit in the top half of the Premiership, thanks to the squad of players we have got caring, giving a shit and giving everything to the cause.

Before the start of the season, we was widely tipped to finish rock bottom this season, by many media pundits, as well as most football supporters of other teams. We now sit in the top half of the Premiership and to all intents and purposes safe from relegation.

So why are some so angry, and quick to have a go at the players and the managers.

Isn't the wonderful season we had until the suspension of football in the country good enough?

Don't the players Wilder has brought in deserve to be afforded time, and don't the players who have performed admirably in the past in getting us to where we are deserve a bit of grace as they hit a patch of bad form after struggling to adapt to the restart?

Is Wilder the problem? Does the fact that he has done so well over the last 4 years in getting us to where we are go out of the window, and he has become a bad manager overnight because he has presided over a poor run of form, and doesn't use all his substutions?

Or do we need to all sit back, take a look at the bigger picture and give the manager and players great credit for getting to where they are, and if we don't get in to Europe, accept it and understand we spent a long time chasing a prize we had no right to chase due to the huge disparity in money we spend compared to the others we are competing again.

Personally i think there is an element of our fan base who have allowed themselves to become entitled, and I think a lot of them used to be the same tantrum throwing, feet stampers who used to trot out lines like "I'm not going to Bramall Lane and giving United mi moneh while they are this wank", only to jump back on the bandwagon when things came good, and now we have hit a sticky spell have reverted to type. They players aren't 'bottlejobs' and whoever it was who coined the term "McShitty" had made himself look a prized twat.

We've had a superb season, the future is still very bright for United and under this manager and under this squad of players, great things are still to come and we only will stronger, now we have got a bit of Premier League experience and nous, it will improve us. Prehaps people who have been so quick to criticse should really begin to accept what we have done and appreciate the magnitude of what we have achieved.

In Wilder We Trust

UTB

had to be done!!

Brilliant OP though, bravo that man!!

 

[LoughboroBlade]

The idea of Sheffield United fans as entitled is laughable.

people are disappointed we are failing off after a stellar first three quarters of the season. Some are very frustrated. Some express themselves crudely or perhaps go too far, no doubt.

but for every post calling McBurnie names I’ve seen a dozen posts giving thoughtful comments on his play. Some of that is criticism, much of it defensible.

That’s why the OP uses the words “some” and “an element of supporters” – nobody that I can see is suggesting that fans overall are entitled, just that there is a weirdo variety that do seem to give off what can probably be termed ‘entitled vibes’. I don’t think that’s an unfair assessment.

 

[Charlieblade]

Demanding 4 or 5 back up players, a new keeper and a couple of top strikers is too much, from the entitled posters.
While Wilder is playing keepy uppy and spinning plates.
Some fans seem to think we are made of money. We are not.

 

[Sheff de party]

It’s important to remember what we’ve achieved, but also that those achievements don’t place any of the players or the manager beyond question. Wilder himself has that attitude.

McBurnie has had some fair questions rightly asked about his achievement, no doubt in private as well, and he responds with an excellent performance against Arsenal. That’s how it supposed to work, rather than some of the savage criticism he gets on here. Wilder’s subs are also rightly questioned but no one should be questioning his ability or right to be here.

Some of the overreactions on here are just comical though and should be treated as such.

 

[Sheff de party]

As for Norwood, he’s always going to get pelters from people who just don’t understand how good he is or how important he is to how we play.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

No, he won’t send you a signed nude photo

Already got one

 

[S40BLADE]

I honestly believe it’s only a small faction of our supporters that have let their emotions get the better of them in recent weeks. McShitty guy being the prime example of such idiotic posts!

There’s a portion of the fans that are passionate about the club who generally want to discuss ways to make things right after a bad game. I think under normal circumstances these points would be discussed in the pub, but alas that’s not an option so views are aired on here... sometimes in the heat of the moment!

But yes I’m sure most are eternally grateful to Wilder and the boys. Just maybe a tad disappointed with recent results as we know we are better than that now.

Exactly the very act of talking about tactics and possibilities is often confused for apparently scathing views of our current and great coaching staff. This is a point I have tried to explain for the last couple of years and its something that doesn't get understood. That is to say there isn't the jeb ends this thread is targeting.

 

[Charlieblade]

The idea of Sheffield United fans as entitled is laughable.

people are disappointed we are failing off after a stellar first three quarters of the season. Some are very frustrated. Some express themselves crudely or perhaps go too far, no doubt.

but for every post calling McBurnie names I’ve seen a dozen posts giving thoughtful comments on his play. Some of that is criticism, much of it defensible.

what exactly are people allowed to say?

People are allowed to say anything, provided they keep it civil, and proposed solutions are realistic.

 

[Birley Blade]

Good post.
It's a symptom of the internet. Mouthy types get to spout bollocks.
The silent majority shake their heads at the ridiculous posts and a few argue with them.
For example, the post having a go at CW use of suns got 3 likes.
Your post got 96.

This thread is full of the “silent majority” spouting bollocks. This thread has been an excuse for people to whine about how they’ve been a Blade for over 40 years, how they’ve had it tougher than anyone else and the fact they spend every last penny of their wages in the club shop. No one gives a toss, we’ve performed shockingly in the last couple of games and people have rightly voiced their opinions. People can’t take criticism and therefore react with the classic “you obviously weren’t there back in League 1”. Well, we all were and we just have a bit of fucking passion and competitiveness and don’t wanna see our team lose without putting in some fucking effort.

On to another point, no one gives a fuck about likes, and if you do you’re really sad. I suspect the post with 3 likes voiced a genuine opinion and got absolutely ruined because CW is manager and how dare anyone criticise him because of what he’s done for the club. Total bollocks. Only had to read the first 5 lines of the OP to know that it was basically a bigger blade contest. Pathetic really.

 

[Fred Furniss's Flatulence]

Whilst perusing social media yesterday after the match, and indeed after the last few matches I've made a general observation.

I've been a United supporter for over 35 years, and a season ticket holder for the last 20 seasons.

I've also watched United in the very depths of the wilderness years, and rightly seen certain United sides take absolute pelters for a lack of effort, not giving a shit, and recall the lap of shame at the end of the Adkins season. However it does appear those same supporters who was critical in those times, generally aren't those same supporters who are the ones who are giving the team absolute pelters now.

I'm disappointed with how things have gone since the restart, but also accept these are strange times, and I think the lack of people in the ground is having a huge, negative effect on the players who we have become accustomed to getting that 5% from thanks to the crowd backing.

We've got a young striker with a big price tag who hasn't hidden from anything during a difficult transition to top flight football, not been frightened to stick his head in where it hurts and has grafted his bollocks off for the cause, and who will with the right backing become a very handy player at this level. The fans response, call him McShitty.

Stevens has a bad game, the response, call him shit. Basham and Fleck have a poor game, one coming back from injury, the response, get shit flung their way. Wilder doesn't use the full 5 subs, his managerial ability is called in to question.

This squad of players don't owe us anything. 4 years ago we was in League One with no real prospect of an escape on the horizon. We now sit in the top half of the Premiership, thanks to the squad of players we have got caring, giving a shit and giving everything to the cause.

Before the start of the season, we was widely tipped to finish rock bottom this season, by many media pundits, as well as most football supporters of other teams. We now sit in the top half of the Premiership and to all intents and purposes safe from relegation.

So why are some so angry, and quick to have a go at the players and the managers.

Isn't the wonderful season we had until the suspension of football in the country good enough?

Don't the players Wilder has brought in deserve to be afforded time, and don't the players who have performed admirably in the past in getting us to where we are deserve a bit of grace as they hit a patch of bad form after struggling to adapt to the restart?

Is Wilder the problem? Does the fact that he has done so well over the last 4 years in getting us to where we are go out of the window, and he has become a bad manager overnight because he has presided over a poor run of form, and doesn't use all his substutions?

Or do we need to all sit back, take a look at the bigger picture and give the manager and players great credit for getting to where they are, and if we don't get in to Europe, accept it and understand we spent a long time chasing a prize we had no right to chase due to the huge disparity in money we spend compared to the others we are competing again.

Personally i think there is an element of our fan base who have allowed themselves to become entitled, and I think a lot of them used to be the same tantrum throwing, feet stampers who used to trot out lines like "I'm not going to Bramall Lane and giving United mi moneh while they are this wank", only to jump back on the bandwagon when things came good, and now we have hit a sticky spell have reverted to type. They players aren't 'bottlejobs' and whoever it was who coined the term "McShitty" had made himself look a prized twat.

We've had a superb season, the future is still very bright for United and under this manager and under this squad of players, great things are still to come and we only will stronger, now we have got a bit of Premier League experience and nous, it will improve us. Prehaps people who have been so quick to criticse should really begin to accept what we have done and appreciate the magnitude of what we have achieved.

In Wilder We Trust

UTB

Fabulous balanced post. Thank you.

 

[Revolution]

People are allowed to say anything, provided they keep it civil, and proposed solutions are realistic.

I see. Who decides what’s realistic? You? The OP?

strikes me that if people have a problem with what other people post the best ways to deal with it are

(1) to respond to that post, or on that thread and engage in the discussion; or
(2) To ignore it, as life is too short.

I don’t really see the merit in the third option, Ie “why-oh-why some of our fans are awful because I don’t agree with them and I need to start a new thread about it and I’ve had a season ticket since Joe Mercer was manager”. Spare me.

 

[Digs blade]

This thread is full of the “silent majority” spouting bollocks. This thread has been an excuse for people to whine about how they’ve been a Blade for over 40 years, how they’ve had it tougher than anyone else and the fact they spend every last penny of their wages in the club shop. No one gives a toss, we’ve performed shockingly in the last couple of games and people have rightly voiced their opinions. People can’t take criticism and therefore react with the classic “you obviously weren’t there back in League 1”. Well, we all were and we just have a bit of fucking passion and competitiveness and don’t wanna see our team lose without putting in some fucking effort.

On to another point, no one gives a fuck about likes, and if you do you’re really sad. I suspect the post with 3 likes voiced a genuine opinion and got absolutely ruined because CW is manager and how dare anyone criticise him because of what he’s done for the club. Total bollocks. Only had to read the first 5 lines of the OP to know that it was basically a bigger blade contest. Pathetic really.

Well I was going to give you a like for that post but don’t think i’ll bother now

UTB

 

[Hamburg Blade]

There is a danger of creating an imaginary "section" of support, whereas the reality is it is only a very, very small minority who go over the top when expressing themselves. If we go too far down this route then anything that is perceived as criticism will be hounded off the forum. Some posts are out of line, but the replies putting the poster right far outweigh the out-of-line comments.
It is perfectly reasonable to question performance, selection, tactics, effort, transfer fees, etc. on a football forum. They're just opinions and it doesn't mean they're right and it doesn't mean those opinions shouldn't be aired. A handful, really a handful, will use wrong language to do it, they will always be put right by others.
As Revolution has just said, there is no need for these sort of threads which just create a "them and us" divide.
I'm not sure how valid my opinion is, however, as I haven't had a season ticket for the last 20 years.

 

[Digs blade]

Everyone reacts differently and I think by and large we embrace that in this forum, that’s not to say that we all have to agree all of the time because that simply won’t happen.

I can’t speak for others, only give my perspective. I care for our club so much it hurts like hell when we lose to the point where I could quite gladly smash the tele in. However that’s just me letting off steam because I desperately want to see us win every game we play and ultimately win a cup or get into Europe.

That doesn’t mean I demand it in a self entitled way, it just means I’m pissed off for a few hours after but then get over it.

 

[Charlieblade]

I.m sure that no one condones civil disobedience on the streets. Why should personal comments on a forum be any more acceptable.
If people get away with angry, foul mouthed posts on here, they will be encouraged to go further in real life. None of that is necessary, and I’m sure most are capable of defining civilised language and behavior, without my arbitration.
If not then something has gone badly wrong.

 

[CentralQuay]

I wouldn't say demanding more from the team is ever really a result of being 'entitled'.


The only entitlement i've seen creep in is the attitude towards clubs lower in the league, and the suggestions of certain signings.
The signings part is probably more delusion than entitlement though.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Well I was going to give you a like for that post but don’t think i’ll bother now

UTB

Me neither, it was shite, see OP..

 

[raimond]

I reckon any forum (to some extent like a phone in) is going to attract big opinions, fair enough. I do reckon though that social media like Twitter is changing how (some) people act; everything has become a lot more reactionary, immediate and extreme, there's less patience about. There's certainly also less room for actual discussion, there's just polarised right or wrong and attack the view point (or person saying it) if you don't agree.

That seems to be showing on here too (in some cases). Just because some folk, amongst the best few years we've had and during one of the best we've ever had, don't like the extent of the moaning after a couple of bad results, that doesn't mean they're less passionate (or any better than anyone for that matter) just that they're trying to have a bit of perspective.

Trying to defend the right to moan though by slating those that don't, or talking about 'being attacked' or having the God given right to moan, is just a bit dull. Not moaning might not make you a bigger Blade but it's an interesting argument to think that moaning means you're more passionate!!

Besides, weird times right now, everyone's a bit frustrated and I think that's coming out too. We're all on the same side though so giyoor. UTB

 

[Bladesman]

Having started going in the late 70s I’ve seen far more downs than ups following the Blades. But whilst I agree with some of the OP I do think some people get too upset about criticism from our fans. It’s a passionate thing following a football team and I think it’s fine for fans to give their views, good or bad, as long as they don’t get personal. It’s also worth pointing out that Wilder himself has been far more critical of the team than most of our fans.

What people need to differentiate is that many are criticising the performance they have just witnessed most of the time and not actually what has gone before it. Some of what people criticise fans for saying is not a million miles away from what Wilder says himself.

Wilder won't directly say we were shit today but when he does an interview he isn't shy in saying it was a bad performance. Also, Wilder won't name names but admits when some players are not quite at it.

 

[cahill]

Whilst perusing social media yesterday after the match, and indeed after the last few matches I've made a general observation.

I've been a United supporter for over 35 years, and a season ticket holder for the last 20 seasons.

I've also watched United in the very depths of the wilderness years, and rightly seen certain United sides take absolute pelters for a lack of effort, not giving a shit, and recall the lap of shame at the end of the Adkins season. However it does appear those same supporters who was critical in those times, generally aren't those same supporters who are the ones who are giving the team absolute pelters now.

I'm disappointed with how things have gone since the restart, but also accept these are strange times, and I think the lack of people in the ground is having a huge, negative effect on the players who we have become accustomed to getting that 5% from thanks to the crowd backing.

We've got a young striker with a big price tag who hasn't hidden from anything during a difficult transition to top flight football, not been frightened to stick his head in where it hurts and has grafted his bollocks off for the cause, and who will with the right backing become a very handy player at this level. The fans response, call him McShitty.

Stevens has a bad game, the response, call him shit. Basham and Fleck have a poor game, one coming back from injury, the response, get shit flung their way. Wilder doesn't use the full 5 subs, his managerial ability is called in to question.

This squad of players don't owe us anything. 4 years ago we was in League One with no real prospect of an escape on the horizon. We now sit in the top half of the Premiership, thanks to the squad of players we have got caring, giving a shit and giving everything to the cause.

Before the start of the season, we was widely tipped to finish rock bottom this season, by many media pundits, as well as most football supporters of other teams. We now sit in the top half of the Premiership and to all intents and purposes safe from relegation.

So why are some so angry, and quick to have a go at the players and the managers.

Isn't the wonderful season we had until the suspension of football in the country good enough?

Don't the players Wilder has brought in deserve to be afforded time, and don't the players who have performed admirably in the past in getting us to where we are deserve a bit of grace as they hit a patch of bad form after struggling to adapt to the restart?

Is Wilder the problem? Does the fact that he has done so well over the last 4 years in getting us to where we are go out of the window, and he has become a bad manager overnight because he has presided over a poor run of form, and doesn't use all his substutions?

Or do we need to all sit back, take a look at the bigger picture and give the manager and players great credit for getting to where they are, and if we don't get in to Europe, accept it and understand we spent a long time chasing a prize we had no right to chase due to the huge disparity in money we spend compared to the others we are competing again.

Personally i think there is an element of our fan base who have allowed themselves to become entitled, and I think a lot of them used to be the same tantrum throwing, feet stampers who used to trot out lines like "I'm not going to Bramall Lane and giving United mi moneh while they are this wank", only to jump back on the bandwagon when things came good, and now we have hit a sticky spell have reverted to type. They players aren't 'bottlejobs' and whoever it was who coined the term "McShitty" had made himself look a prized twat.

We've had a superb season, the future is still very bright for United and under this manager and under this squad of players, great things are still to come and we only will stronger, now we have got a bit of Premier League experience and nous, it will improve us. Prehaps people who have been so quick to criticse should really begin to accept what we have done and appreciate the magnitude of what we have achieved.

In Wilder We Trust

UTB

If you've only watched United for 35 years you've not seen "the VERY depths of the wilderness years" when we sank into division 4 and yo-yo'd between division three and two for several years

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

This thread is full of the “silent majority” spouting bollocks. This thread has been an excuse for people to whine about how they’ve been a Blade for over 40 years, how they’ve had it tougher than anyone else and the fact they spend every last penny of their wages in the club shop. No one gives a toss, we’ve performed shockingly in the last couple of games and people have rightly voiced their opinions. People can’t take criticism and therefore react with the classic “you obviously weren’t there back in League 1”. Well, we all were and we just have a bit of fucking passion and competitiveness and don’t wanna see our team lose without putting in some fucking effort.

On to another point, no one gives a fuck about likes, and if you do you’re really sad. I suspect the post with 3 likes voiced a genuine opinion and got absolutely ruined because CW is manager and how dare anyone criticise him because of what he’s done for the club. Total bollocks. Only had to read the first 5 lines of the OP to know that it was basically a bigger blade contest. Pathetic really.

I'm not talking about expressing a sensible opinion. We were shocking in those games, no doubt about it, and nothing wrong with saying so.
If you think the threads saying the team don't give a fuck, we won't win again, CW has run out of ideas etc etc are sensible then that's an opinion.

Likes don't matter, and no reason to post or not. They do give an indication of how many people agree with the comment. So, I'll stand by my statement saying this OP speaks for more people than the panic / we're shit posts.