Ellis Simms

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3Cheers4Ramirez said:
Ended the season with an excellent hat trick

13 goals in 15 starts

Surely too expensive for us to sign permanently
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Sure I heard it on Sky Sports earlier that he's not scored in something like 10 games before his hat trick today.
 
PUSBCCFC said:
Rumours you're showing interest.

He's been unlucky this season, Frank has preferred Haji Wright but Simms has done very well every time he's played.

Today he was fucking outstanding. One of the best number 9 performances I can remember. Wonderful hatrick.
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Thanks for the info and congrats on your promotion 👍
 
PUSBCCFC said:
Rumours you're showing interest.

He's been unlucky this season, Frank has preferred Haji Wright but Simms has done very well every time he's played.

Today he was fucking outstanding. One of the best number 9 performances I can remember. Wonderful hatrick.
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What sort of fee would he command ?

I know our chairman was talking to Doug after our game at lane this season wouldn’t suprise me if you lot tried getting Gus for cash plus Simms
 
maxstertheblade said:
What sort of fee would he command ?

I know our chairman was talking to Doug after our game at lane this season wouldn’t suprise me if you lot tried getting Gus for cash plus Simms
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We have likely just paid the promotion fee on him which takes the final cost to £8m. So it would need to be north of that.

I'd imagine a parachute side or Wrexham/Birmingham being willing to pay that.
 
PUSBCCFC said:
We have likely just paid the promotion fee on him which takes the final cost to £8m. So it would need to be north of that.

I'd imagine a parachute side or Wrexham/Birmingham being willing to pay that.
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Why would it need to be above £8m? He’s got a year left in his original deal. From an accounting perspective, anything above £4.25m (assuming a £3m promotion clause) gives you a profit.
 
PUSBCCFC said:
We have likely just paid the promotion fee on him which takes the final cost to £8m. So it would need to be north of that.

I'd imagine a parachute side or Wrexham/Birmingham being willing to pay that.
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Are we rumoured to be in for him? Or is it hear say?
 
Balham said:
Why would it need to be above £8m? He’s got a year left in his original deal. From an accounting perspective, anything above £4.25m (assuming a £3m promotion clause) gives you a profit.
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Good point although anything below £6m and I think we'd look to keep him.

I think there will be a bidding war. He's got a goal per 125 minutes this season, has an FA Cup semi final, Play Off semi final and is a Champions winner this year. He would be an excellent signing for anyone in the division.
 
PUSBCCFC said:
Good point although anything below £6m and I think we'd look to keep him.

I think there will be a bidding war. He's got a goal per 125 minutes this season, has an FA Cup semi final, Play Off semi final and is a Champions winner this year. He would be an excellent signing for anyone in the division.
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Yeah right. Just because his team won the league doesn’t make him suddenly worth x times more.
 
Swap deal for Hamer maybe?

Might make sense given Hamer's age and the fact that he's on his last year. Coventry links might also help if he wants to go back.

As disappointing to lose Hamer would be, it could be a good move for all parties as we would be getting someone at a good age who can directly improve our front line in return.
 
Chief_Froley said:
Swap deal for Hamer maybe?

Might make sense given Hamer's age and the fact that he's on his last year. Coventry links might also help if he wants to go back.

As disappointing to lose Hamer would be, it could be a good move for all parties as we would be getting someone at a good age who can directly improve our front line in return.
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I wouldn't say it would be a good move for all parties, we would be loosing our most creative player and the one player who is capable of scoring out of nothing.
I can't say I know much about Simms but if he's that good why are Coventry selling.
 



Chief_Froley said:
Swap deal for Hamer maybe?

Might make sense given Hamer's age and the fact that he's on his last year. Coventry links might also help if he wants to go back.

As disappointing to lose Hamer would be, it could be a good move for all parties as we would be getting someone at a good age who can directly improve our front line in return.
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Do swap deals ever really happen? Or are they fan fiction nowadays like pay as you play contracts?
It would be a good idea. I don't think any fan base would want Gus more than Covs, and given their promotion they will be happier than a lot of clubs to let some of their better players leave just, because of their promotion.
Does he want to leave for one last crack at the Prem though or did he want to go abroad for personal reasons?
I dont think we can "do better than Gus" but I do think we can replace him with someone more suitable. How we use the Hamer money and how we replace him will be a huge factor to how we do next season. The Peck and maybe even Seriki money will get swallowed up, but they're also in positions where we have cover. With Gus we WILL have to replace his creativity, and hopefully there's a few quid in the kitty to do that as his type dont come for peanuts.
 
Chief_Froley said:
Swap deal for Hamer maybe?

Might make sense given Hamer's age and the fact that he's on his last year. Coventry links might also help if he wants to go back.

As disappointing to lose Hamer would be, it could be a good move for all parties as we would be getting someone at a good age who can directly improve our front line in return.
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Would absolutely love Hamer back but I don't think we'll be back in for him.
 
PUSBCCFC said:
We have likely just paid the promotion fee on him which takes the final cost to £8m. So it would need to be north of that.

I'd imagine a parachute side or Wrexham/Birmingham being willing to pay that.
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This post describes how difficult a promotion push will be to achieve.

The only way we buy players like Simms is to sell the Crown Jewels. And the only way we replace said jewels is to develop new ones over multiple seasons (or get extraordinarily lucky in the market).

Wilder insists we’ll be pushing next year. If we push for 8th it’ll be a good achievement. And if Wilder survives long enough to replicate Coventry’s multi-year progression, it’ll be miraculous (see Mark Robins for details…).

I didn’t bet on it, but Coventry’s trajectory as of last year was looking very good.
 
JohnDenver said:
This post describes how difficult a promotion push will be to achieve.

The only way we buy players like Simms is to sell the Crown Jewels. And the only way we replace said jewels is to develop new ones over multiple seasons (or get extraordinarily lucky in the market).

Wilder insists we’ll be pushing next year. If we push for 8th it’ll be a good achievement. And if Wilder survives long enough to replicate Coventry’s multi-year progression, it’ll be miraculous (see Mark Robins for details…).

I didn’t bet on it, but Coventry’s trajectory as of last year was looking very good.
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Why will top 8 be a good achievement?
 
andy m said:
Why will top 8 be a good achievement?
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Because I expect us to sell Hamer and Peck to cover our losses, then “invest” in offloading some contracted duffs, and recruit from a lower wage market than we’ve operated in for years.

I also think the parachute teams will all compete, and Wrexham and Brum will be strong too. The playoffs will be a great effort in those circs.
 
JohnDenver said:
This post describes how difficult a promotion push will be to achieve.

The only way we buy players like Simms is to sell the Crown Jewels. And the only way we replace said jewels is to develop new ones over multiple seasons (or get extraordinarily lucky in the market).

Wilder insists we’ll be pushing next year. If we push for 8th it’ll be a good achievement. And if Wilder survives long enough to replicate Coventry’s multi-year progression, it’ll be miraculous (see Mark Robins for details…).

I didn’t bet on it, but Coventry’s trajectory as of last year was looking very good.
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Mackems & Ghost Town were ready to go up - we weren't.
 
Not to disparage us at all, but I would have thought Simms would be looking to a better opportunity than us. I think we’d have to be showing some real ambition in the close season to attract his attention, which I don’t think is on the cards.
 
Large Mendonca said:
Not to disparage us at all, but I would have thought Simms would be looking to a better opportunity than us. I think we’d have to be showing some real ambition in the close season to attract his attention, which I don’t think is on the cards.
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On the contrary, I think we’ll show a lot of ambition. Business is all about adapting and diversifying your income streams these days, and with an aging population there is a lot of money to be made from care homes for the elderly and infirm.
 
Nick Jansky said:
On the contrary, I think we’ll show a lot of ambition. Business is all about adapting and diversifying your income streams these days, and with an aging population there is a lot of money to be made from care homes for the elderly and infirm.
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Agreed, I think we’ll be well backed this summer.

I think we’ll see a few big sales, but where they make sense in terms of the fee.

Some of that will be used to balance the books. The rest will be re-invested.

We’ll have a healthy wage budget though and be competitive in the loan market as well.
 



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