Elliot Whitehouse

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Just signed a one year deal with Notts County. Perhaps one to haunt us during season:/
 

Good player, got a goal or two in him and a leader. Why would we need to keep him?
 
I read up about him in the paper the other day. Apparently he's had a half decent pre season for County, he scored a couple in one of the games and after the game Shaun Derry said he was fantastic.
 
Thought we'd released him not killed him!

I doubt he'll be the difference between them pipping us for promotion or not. Good luck to him, and all that, but he had to go really,

You're forgetting the first rule of United fandom "if we release a player and he signs for someone else, his skill factor immediately increases by 500%"
 
To be fair Dazzler, that's rule 1.

Rule 72 (at the other end of the scale) suggests that any player that leaves us was always a useless piece of shit who was never fit to wear the shirt and was lucky to get any sort of game for us (see one Harry Maguire for recent confirmation of this).

What is most noticeable about both rules is how they are applied completely conversely to the players talent/contribution to us (i.e. Rule1 applies to players who weren't very good or never made a significant impact whereas Rule72 seems to apply to our better performers).
 
Good player, got a goal or two in him and a leader. Why would we need to keep him?

Why indeed. He's a 20 year old central midfielder who, had he been under contract this season, would have been 9th choice central midfielder, behind Doyle, Basham, Wallace, Scougall, McGinn, Cuvelier, Reed and Dimaio.

Good luck to him at Notts County but let's not pretend that he was good enough to make an impact at the Lane. If he was, he'd still be here.
 
To be fair Dazzler, that's rule 1.

Rule 72 (at the other end of the scale) suggests that any player that leaves us was always a useless piece of shit who was never fit to wear the shirt and was lucky to get any sort of game for us (see one Harry Maguire for recent confirmation of this).

What is most noticeable about both rules is how they are applied completely conversely to the players talent/contribution to us (i.e. Rule1 applies to players who weren't very good or never made a significant impact whereas Rule72 seems to apply to our better performers).


Indeed

Rule 71 is:

"any player from the academy who played 3 games for us in 4 years and was then released and then gets a contract with Braintree Town would have been Wayne Rooney Mk II if only he had been "given a chance""
 
Top analysis Gremlin, however neglect not Rule 61, whereby the opinion of the manager who signed/released said player influences the application of all other rules. c.f try getting Judge to admit Warnock ever made a bad signing or Grecian2000 to ever admit Semi-Pro made a good one.
 
Top analysis Gremlin, however neglect not Rule 61, whereby the opinion of the manager who signed/released said player influences the application of all other rules. c.f try getting Judge to admit Warnock ever made a bad signing or Grecian2000 to ever admit Semi-Pro made a good one.

You twat.

That's 20 minutes spent trying to come up with a Hoofy signing that disproves your theory and I've drawn a blank.
 
OK I'll go on record to say that Whitehouse will go from strength to strength if he gets say a dozen games under his belt early season. Anyone who watched him lead the successful Youth Side will know he was the most dominant figure alongside Maguire.

It has been frustrating for me that a player like McGinn was given game time while Whitehouse sat on the bench. It is also frustrating for me that McGinn is still with us.

I do however acknowledge that we are strongest in the midfield areas of the squad now, but last season we could have really tested Whitehouse and the opportunity was lost.

Time will tell whether we should have kept him but a goalscoring captain of a national finalist youth team is a big player.
 
I read up about him in the paper the other day. Apparently he's had a half decent pre season for County, he scored a couple in one of the games and after the game Shaun Derry said he was fantastic.

Fk me !! Another fkr slipped through the net..sack the scouts !
Why havn't we signed him he'd have been grea....oh hang on a mo ...sorry everyone ...
:oops: :tumbleweed:
 
He's talented without a doubt and for a while I thought he'd be the next to make the step up to being a regular.

He's been unlucky with injuries and timing really, with the numbers we've got in his position and the younger lads showing promise, it was time for the step up or to be released to pursue a position elsewhere.

Hope he does well, he's a nice lad.
 
He's not good enough. Neither was Joe Ironside or Jordan Chapoell.

It just takes some people a long time to realise.

For future reference, Kennedy won't make it either. Apologies to Bladey Blades.
 

He's not good enough. Neither was Joe Ironside or Jordan Chapoell.

It just takes some people a long time to realise.

For future reference, Kennedy won't make it either. Apologies to Bladey Blades.

Ironside was shocking !Don't really know how he made any decent reviews anyway..cruelly exposed .Kennedy,well,its still early days for me ..
 
He's not good enough. Neither was Joe Ironside or Jordan Chapoell.

It just takes some people a long time to realise.

For future reference, Kennedy won't make it either. Apologies to Bladey Blades.

Who were the last youth players we let go as not good enough and who then proved us wrong by achieving a reasonable career in the top two tiers. Any since Marsden and Mendonca 25ish years ago?
 
Who were the last youth players we let go as not good enough and who then proved us wrong by achieving a reasonable career in the top two tiers. Any since Marsden and Mendonca 25ish years ago?
Kevin Davies did alright.
 
Kevin Davies did alright.

Davies wasn't even on YTS terms at the Lane. He was released as a schoolboy at 15

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Davies.

I was thinking more of a Whitehouse type situation, where a player has played a few games, is released, everyone says he "wasn't given a chance" and the player then goes on to have a succesful career.
 
I was thinking more of a Whitehouse type situation, where a player has played a few games, is released, everyone says he "wasn't given a chance" and the player then goes on to have a succesful career.

Billy Sharp? The first time around I mean.
 
Billy Sharp? The first time around I mean.

He scored lots of goals in the lower divisions, but when he was given a chance in the top 2 tiers (i.e. with us), he was shit.
 
Who were the last youth players we let go as not good enough and who then proved us wrong by achieving a reasonable career in the top two tiers. Any since Marsden and Mendonca 25ish years ago?
Bassett wanted to keep Marsden but Marsden said he didnt like his style of football and wanted to leave
 
To the best of my knowledge, there have been 21 players since 1988 who have come through the youth system, played for the first team and then been released (or sold to a team from the lower divisions). Here's a list. Not many world beaters here

1. Richard Lucas
2. Ashley Fickling
3. Graham Anthony
4. Tony Battersby
5. Chris Bettney
6. Adam Burley
7. Ben Doane
8. Mark Ward
9. Tyrone Thompson
10. Ryan Mallon
11. Lewis Killeen
12. Jonathon Forte
13. Billy Sharp
14. Nicky Law
15. Kyle McFadzean
16. Colin Marrison
17. Evan Harwood
18. Kingsley James
19. Jordan Chappell
20. Matty Harriott
21. Elliott Whitehouse
 
Tony Battersby, fookin 'ell. I remember when he was supposed to be the next big thing.
 
Lucas was a goalkeeper wasn't he? Featured quite heavily on the episode about the kids on that United show on the BBC.
 
Lucas was a goalkeeper wasn't he? Featured quite heavily on the episode about the kids on that United show on the BBC.

No, defender. Made his debut in the game at Villa on 1/12/90 and was sold to Preston in around March 93 I think.
 
No, defender. Made his debut in the game at Villa on 1/12/90 and was sold to Preston in around March 93 I think.

I watched that show with my dad a few years back and he said how sad it was to watch it now knowing that none of the lads featured in it really went on to much as footballers.
 
I watched that show with my dad a few years back and he said how sad it was to watch it now knowing that none of the lads featured in it really went on to much as footballers.

95% of those involved in football as youth players don't. Look at my list. Those are the players who got through the youth system, played for the first team - i.e. they were the top 5% - and then, apart from Sharp, Forte and Law - didn't have much of a career - at most scrabbling around the lower divisions and non league.
 

95% of those involved in football as youth players don't. Look at my list. Those are the players who got through the youth system, played for the first team - i.e. they were the top 5% - and then, apart from Sharp, Forte and Law - didn't have much of a career - at most scrabbling around the lower divisions and non league.

There was a kid at my school who had a trial for Spurs and did ok. Good looking sod, the lass I had a crush on for years fancied the pants off him, and he got a scholarship to Oxford to study languages.

Cunt.
 

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