Do you want him to sign??

[TarquinDelouche]

An overweight, lazy striker that contributed little to the team and even less in effort. owever, good at taking penalties and a decent finisher.

Already been put to bed. The rest... Berbatov is also classed as 'lazy'. You'd turn him down?

He achieved nothing.

Neither did the rest of the team. We should allow all their contracts to expire without renewing them and get in a bunch of real winners. I hear Barcelona are having a car boot sale.

I didn't read the rest of your post. I'd lost interest. Except for this:

Actually Pat, I am fed up of talking about BT.

Perhaps we'd all be better off if you put a sock in it then.

 

[stannyblade]

So when did Beattie last score a goal?

Good question but last time we had him he hadnt scored from open play in 2 years.

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Bit patronising Rev. I saw James Beattie in a Sheffield United shirt. I saw an uninterested, lazy, apaethetic and individual player. Yes he scored a lot of goals, but the team really suffered. It was the James Beattie show. What I then saw, after his sale, was Sheffield United play much better. I saw United comes within a hare's breath of promotion. If you compare the stats (as Darren did) then United did better without BT. Is that a coincidence? You would obviosuly argue no, but I would say yes. You and the other Beattie lovers will say that he would have fired us up (when the evidence suggest the contrary) whilst I would argue that the team played better without him. The facts are on my side on this one.

The stats though Ollie will only say we gained more points without him than with. Its one of those that you cant ever actually prove that we were indeed better without him. What I mean is we didnt play the same teams with the same squad with and without BT. The games after he left can you say that with BT we would have lost that game or even won that one. I for one would rather have him playing than Porter.

 

[mpjacko]

I wasn't around the forums at the time but my guess similar stuff was said when Neil Shipperley signed for united. We know what happend that season

 

[broomhillblade]

"I saw United comes within a hare's breath of promotion."

Nice bit of creative writing there Ollie.

I don't suppose you could have meant 'hair's breadth'?

 

[Grecian2000]

Andy Gray, Jostein Flo and Gareth Taylor were at a similar level.

Jostein Flo!!!??? JOSTEIN FLO! Fuck me, he was on a par with Duggie Brown and Barry Fucking Butlin not James Beattie (or even Shit Bastard Beattie if it comes to that).

For what it's worth, my opinion of Beattie was someone who doesn't play well when not 100% fit and tries to conserve energy (therefore looking lazy at times) throughout the game so he can see it through. This was the case under Robson. When Lord Hoof took over and got Robsons players fit, Beattie was in fine form and we nearly reached the play-offs (he took the pigs on almost single handed at the Lane).
His injury (which was the only thing that kept him at the Lane anyway) then contributed to him not being anywhere near as good the following season.

He will be great in this division IF he is 100%. He won't be if he isn't.

 

[judge]

picture this ,10 mins left and 2 goals down at the sty
we get a free kick 35 yards out ,who would you rather take it ? beattie or porter ?

 

[Grecian2000]

picture this ,10 mins left and 2 goals down at the sty
we get a free kick 35 yards out ,who would you rather take it ? beattie or porter ?

Sooner have Nyree Dawn Porter take it than Chris.

 

[Ollessendro]

I didn't read the rest of your post. I'd lost interest. Except for this:

......

Perhaps we'd all be better off if you put a sock in it then.

This is a forum Tarquin mi owd cock. People express opinions. If you want to go to a place where opinion is stifled and nobody will disagree, then how about trying a holiday to North Korea or Saudi Arabia?

The stats though Ollie will only say we gained more points without him than with. Its one of those that you cant ever actually prove that we were indeed better without him. What I mean is we didnt play the same teams with the same squad with and without BT. The games after he left can you say that with BT we would have lost that game or even won that one. I for one would rather have him playing than Porter.

Oh contraire mucker. Beattie left after we had played 23 games. Exactly half way through the season. The next 23 games we got more points. Of course you cannot prove causality. You could argue it was Coterill's performance, an improved back 4, hoofy getting it right etc (and not BT's deaprture) that lead to us improving our results and subsequently place in the table.

"I saw United comes within a hare's breath of promotion."

Nice bit of creative writing there Ollie.

I don't suppose you could have meant 'hair's breadth'?

We I have been likened to Yeates, Shelley and Keats so I thought I might have a little play on words.

 

[raul]

Sign soon please James. Fairly relaxed about wherever you do so, but just hurry the f up.

 

[Houso]

Sign soon please James. Fairly relaxed about wherever you do so, but just hurry the f up.

I saw a certain someone hurrying up with a pint or two in the Tap post match the other day...

 

[LSF]

"I saw United comes within a hare's breath of promotion."

Nice bit of creative writing there Ollie.

I don't suppose you could have meant 'hair's breadth'?

Beat me to it Broomers!

Wonder if Ollie has ever smelt a hares breath?

 

[Bladesman]

This is a forum Tarquin mi owd cock. People express opinions. If you want to go to a place where opinion is stifled and nobody will disagree, then how about trying a holiday to North Korea or Saudi Arabia?



Oh contraire mucker. Beattie left after we had played 23 games. Exactly half way through the season. The next 23 games we got more points. Of course you cannot prove causality. You could argue it was Coterill's performance, an improved back 4, hoofy getting it right etc (and not BT's deaprture) that lead to us improving our results and subsequently place in the table.



We I have been likened to Yeates, Shelley and Keats so I thought I might have a little play on words.

Ultimately meant bugger all though the team that did so well without Beattie as you claim still fucked up at Wembley without the distraction of the "uninterested, lazy, apaethetic and individual player."

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

I remember the debates during BT's leaner spells with us that he didn't add anything to the team when not scoring, a bit like Andy Gray used to be but no-one can argue about his ability to produce something out of the ordinary.

He may not fit into what DW is trying to achieve, he may not get the service, the free-kicks may not come off this time but as others have said, he'll add bums on seats, give the fans a much needed boost, he'll add presence on the pitch, something a lot of defences won't have seen and even if he's not scoring, they'll give him a lot of attention which should benefit others around him.

Billy Clarke and a fit and firing BT, now there's a partnership I'd like to see.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

Actually I now want him to sign, just to piss Ollessendro off. Then I want him to get 20 goals before the end of the season, just to piss Ollessendro off.

 

[judge]

i remember walking out of bdtbl after beattie had scored that 35 yarder against the pigs to equalise in probably the most hateful atmosphere ive ever been in and thinking i wish he was a bit more interested less lazy and lost a few pounds as people all around me were fist fighting and knocking each other out

but then again if he was a bit more interested a bit less lazy and slightly slimmer he wouldnt be playing for sheffield united would he ?

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

i remember walking out of bdtbl after beattie had scored that 35 yarder against the pigs to equalise in probably the most hateful atmosphere ive ever been in and thinking i wish he was a bit more interested less lazy and lost a few pounds as people all around me were fist fighting and knocking each other out

but then again if he was a bit more interested a bit less lazy and slightly slimmer he wouldnt be playing for sheffield united would he ?

I think, or should I say, I hope, that he's no longer chasing the buck and just wants to play football. Who knows how much he wanted to play for us last time, how much he was pissed off with certain players or the manager, or with what was going on behind the scenes. It SHOULD be different this time around and football should be at the forefront of his mind, not how big a contract he can get. We can only hope.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Class centre forwards often look less workmanlike. Why?

Because they are already in the position they need to be.

They dont need to chase after a ball 10 to 15 yards away like a headless chicken.

Poor positional play and lack of concentration can be misinterpreted as hard work.

Good positioning at the end of poor service can be misinterpreted as laziness.

 

[Ollessendro]

Actually I now want him to sign, just to piss Ollessendro off. Then I want him to get 20 goals before the end of the season, just to piss Ollessendro off.

Tell you what Tarquin me owd spadge. If chubby BT signs and plays 20 games then I will buy you a beer. If BT knocks in 20 goals then I'll buy you as many pints as you can drink (pre kick off) in the Rutland.

Class centre forwards often look less workmanlike. Why?

Because they are already in the position they need to be.

They dont need to chase after a ball 10 to 15 yards away like a headless chicken.

Poor positional play and lack of concentration can be misinterpreted as hard work.

Good positioning at the end of poor service can be misinterpreted as laziness.

I've heard it all now Patty owd boy. Man City fans criticising Tevez for being lazy, Hernandez always being called a lazy bugger in the Stretford End, Van Persie never puts a shift in either and Drogba, well he's never been workman like.

We're really scraping the barrell here. This BT is not lazy he just has great positioning is up ther with 'he's not a big time Charlie, he went to Hallamshire children's hospital and visited a girl with cancer' and 'he always tracks back', based on his one token run back and tackle vs Boro in the FA cup.

Let's bring 'the hero' back and see what happens. Give Ollessendro another chance to say I told you so.

 

[judge]

Tell you what Tarquin me owd spadge. If chubby BT signs and plays 20 games then I will buy you a beer. If BT knocks in 20 goals then I'll buy you as many pints as you can drink (pre kick off) in the Rutland.



I've heard it all now Patty owd boy. Man City fans criticising Tevez for being lazy, Hernandez always being called a lazy bugger in the Stretford End, Van Persie never puts a shift in either and Drogba, well he's never been workman like.

We're really scraping the barrell here. This BT is not lazy he just has great positioning is up ther with 'he's not a big time Charlie, he went to Hallamshire children's hospital and visited a girl with cancer' and 'he always tracks back', based on his one token run back and tackle vs Boro in the FA cup.

Let's bring 'the hero' back and see what happens. Give Ollessendro another chance to say I told you so.

whatever your self induced problems are with james beattie ,i dont think you should slag anyone off for visiting cancer patients in hospital

youve gone too far on this occasion in your quest for self adoration

 

[Pedro Verde]

whatever your self induced problems are with james beattie ,i dont think you should slag anyone off for visiting cancer patients in hospital

youve gone too far on this occasion in your quest for self adoration

Olles the class clown seeking attention.

How you can mention Andy Gray and James Beattie in the same sentence beggars belief. Craig Beattie possibly
Did not a certain Mr Edwards and Mr Currie get called lazy a few times. You dont have to run around like a headless chicken to be a good footballer, positional sense, anticipation, movement and being able to put the ball in the back of the net when it comes your way are far more important

 

[Kenilworth]

"I saw United comes within a hare's breath of promotion."

Nice bit of creative writing there Ollie.

I don't suppose you could have meant 'hair's breadth'?

Maybe Olle and Hartley have a thing going on

 

[davidpinder]

whatever your self induced problems are with james beattie ,i dont think you should slag anyone off for visiting cancer patients in hospital

youve gone too far on this occasion in your quest for self adoration

totally agree

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Tell you what Tarquin me owd spadge. If chubby BT signs and plays 20 games then I will buy you a beer. If BT knocks in 20 goals then I'll buy you as many pints as you can drink (pre kick off) in the Rutland.



I've heard it all now Patty owd boy. Man City fans criticising Tevez for being lazy, Hernandez always being called a lazy bugger in the Stretford End, Van Persie never puts a shift in either and Drogba, well he's never been workman like.

We're really scraping the barrell here. This BT is not lazy he just has great positioning is up ther with 'he's not a big time Charlie, he went to Hallamshire children's hospital and visited a girl with cancer' and 'he always tracks back', based on his one token run back and tackle vs Boro in the FA cup.

Let's bring 'the hero' back and see what happens. Give Ollessendro another chance to say I told you so.

answer me this then olle who would you rather see start for us porter or beattie?

 

[stannyblade]

answer me this then olle who would you rather see start for us porter or beattie?

The men with white coats are ready Ollie if you answer PORTER

 

[Tuns]

BT is one of the most overrated players, given his wages, fee and match by match contribution, to have played for us.

Decent penalties and free kicks does not a great striker make and to hear him described as a Blades legend is a bit of an insult to our genuine legends.

If he wants true Blade legend status then I guess he has another chance to earn it this time round. Even Ched can sometimes hold his own at this level so I guess BT has a chance to shine.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

I've just found a golden nugget in an old thread. Olle said this about Beattie in September 2010...

Quality strikers (IMO) that we've had since Deane left in 93:

- BT
- Hulse
- HMS Shipps
- Fjortoft
- Blake

Decent strikers (i.e. better than average):

- Webber
- Kabba
- Gray
- Marcelo
- Katchouro
- Andy Walker
- M Bent

 

[judge]

I've just found a golden nugget in an old thread. Olle said this about Beattie in September 2010...

so he is basically attention seeking and changes his opinion based on how much it will wind up his fellow blades ,nothing new there then

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

so he is basically attention seeking and changes his opinion based on how much it will wind up his fellow blades ,nothing new there then

It seems so. Either that or he caught Beattie in bed with his wife.

So when did Beattie last score a goal?

17th October 2009
Barclays Premier League

Stoke City 2-1 West Ham United
Beattie 11 (pen) Upson 34
Beattie 70

 

[Jehovah]

When I think about BT signing, it just makes me feel good about myself. It doesnt feel so cold, our lass looks fitter and the world just seems a happier place.
When I think about Porter starting I immediatley vomit this horrible black stuff.

 

[Bladesway]

Let's bring 'the hero' back and see what happens. Give Ollessendro another chance to say I told you so.

Out of interest and with this in mind, you were proclaiming we needed numerous players before July 14th or somesuch dealine or the sky was going to collapse on us. Wilson shouldn't have been flying out/back from Malta and the entire thing was a mess.

So bearing in mind you haven't really said "I told you so" with any certainty before, at what point is this another chance? As for it being a forum and its about opinions, you were the one mentioning how you were bored of talking about BT. On a thread about BT???

I know your a legend in your own pants, but please have some consistency to your argument. I knew it was all too good to last. Your a bit like Pete Docherty. You talk like your a reformed character, you may on occasion look like a reformed character, but you can't help looking in the mirror one time too often can you. Shame because beneath all the waffle theres a brain. Possibly.

 

[Ollessendro]

Olles the class clown seeking attention.

How you can mention Andy Gray and James Beattie in the same sentence beggars belief.

Not sure why you had to throw any clown comments in. Just detracts from your point when you insult people.

I actually think the Andy Gray/James Beattie comparison is a pretty good one. They have a very similar goals to games ratio whilst wearing a United shirt. They both achieved little whilst playing for United and both contributed little to the team, other than goals. Both players were good at taking penalties and had an eye for goal. They were also remarkably similar in their work rate, ability to lead the line and lazyness. Beattie's goals ration was slightly better, but he played in a better team.

Out of interest and with this in mind, you were proclaiming we needed numerous players before July 14th or somesuch dealine or the sky was going to collapse on us. Wilson shouldn't have been flying out/back from Malta and the entire thing was a mess.

So bearing in mind you haven't really said "I told you so" with any certainty before, at what point is this another chance? As for it being a forum and its about opinions, you were the one mentioning how you were bored of talking about BT. On a thread about BT???

I know your a legend in your own pants, but please have some consistency to your argument. I knew it was all too good to last. Your a bit like Pete Docherty. You talk like your a reformed character, you may on occasion look like a reformed character, but you can't help looking in the mirror one time too often can you. Shame because beneath all the waffle theres a brain. Possibly.

Well I have been compared to better (Keats, Byron, Bill Hicks etc) but Pete Docherty is talented, so I can handle that. The I am not interested in talkign about BT any more was a joke and immediately followed by a (crap) metaphor that was blatantly about BT.

As for BT, well I tell it like I see it. I might exaggeerate a little (didn't do Picasso any harm) but I think that BT is overated. There is no doubt he has ability (that is unquestionable) but I believe his commitment is seriously lacking.

Nuddy - you have too much time on your hands. Even though BT has a good goal to game ratio, he still can have a detrimental effect on the team. Noone would doubt Ruud Van Nistelroy had bags of quality and was a very good goalscorer, but he was a lazy git and lacked effort and commitment. Man U got better after they shifted him. He had a detrimental effect on the team, just like BT did at Sheffield United.

Judge - thought you were not replying to me any more or responding to threads I am prominent on. You just cannot resist can you?