gavtheblade
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For the love of God,will this finally be his breakthrough season??
The cotton wool has to come off surely?
The cotton wool has to come off surely?
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For the love of God,will this finally be his breakthrough season??
The cotton wool has to come off surely?
Lets hope so Seb.We shall see. However I do think most of our supporters are underestimating the seriousness of the injury he had. Miller took just as long to get back playing and still isn't what he was pre-injury. Reports are that he's come back looking sharper and fitter.
For the love of God,will this finally be his breakthrough season??
The cotton wool has to come off surely?
Big fucking yawn!
There's no cotton wool here, when he's good enough he'll play.
This over hyping bollocks will do more damage than good.
He's done nothing so far, absolutely nothing. Let talk about some of those who played last season and looked like they could step up. If Diego's time comes all well and good, let talk about him then.
I've given you a like Bob, as I think the over-hyping has lead to unfair criticisms of both the management AND of the lad himself that are based on guesswork and rumour alone.
BUT, you said we should be more willing to hype "some of those who played last season and looked like they could step up". Diego has played (well) for the first team, has nearly scored for the first team and has played for the under 18s of one of the best footballing nations on the planet.
To say that people should stop talking about or getting excited about him is ridiculous.
I nearly got 50 goals last year.
and has played for the under 18s of one of the best footballing nations on the planet.
Well, you didn't now did you?
Would it be churlish to mention them sharing a plane home from Brazil with our glorious boys a couple of weeks back?
I've seen 10 minutes of him in a first team shirt and he looked the part. If he still does after his injury I'm sure we'll see more from him this season. If he doesn't then we've got other youngsters who might.
I'm not hanging all my promotion hopes on him just yet, that's for sure.
Also, some players who represented their country at junior level:
Michael Ohalloran
Jonathan forte
Andrew Taylor
As a few examples. Playing for u18s means absolutely nothing. Most professionals in the top 2/3 divisions have at some point. If he was good, he would be playing. Everyone signs off with 'in Clough we trust' on ALL his decisions except with Diego. Why?
Fuck me. Did you read what I posted originally?
Here's a synopsis - don't overhype, but don't criticise people for getting excited and talking about a bright young talent.
What has Clough said the contrary? I believe he's even said he's a very good young prospect who needed some time to recuperate after a very bad injury.
Has he said he's overhyped and with a bad attitude? Not to the best of my knowledge.
The main point I'm making is your justification for him being overhyped does not set him apart from any other player. Let's take dimaio: played well for the firsts (in several games), represented his country and various levels and ok didn't 'nearly score' but I thinks thats a weak argument anyway and they're different positions. So why aren't there hundreds of threads about dimaio? How can a player who has never played a real
League game for us be hyped so much, it's confusing!
I didn't say hype, I said talk. Hype is the one thing we shouldn't be doing to any of the players.I've given you a like Bob, as I think the over-hyping has lead to unfair criticisms of both the management AND of the lad himself that are based on guesswork and rumour alone.
BUT, you said we should be more willing to hype "some of those who played last season and looked like they could step up". Diego has played (well) for the first team, has nearly scored for the first team and has played for the under 18s of one of the best footballing nations on the planet.
To say that people should stop talking about or getting excited about him is ridiculous.
I didn't say hype, I said talk. Hype is the one thing we shouldn't be doing to any of the players.
We have players who've played and still do for England youth teams yet they don't get this kind of hype before they've kicked a ball.
None of my gripes is against the lad himself, although I'm sure at his age he will buy into some of it which won't help.The lad was just starting to get into the team at 16 when serious injury stopped him for over a year. As Houso said, he didn't over hype himself, however people who have seen him play did.
I don't give a fuck what his name is but can we just get behind these young players we have, without finding a reason to slate them.
It sounds like the lad has got himself physically fit and now hopefully he will be there mentally. He needed a bit of tough love and he got it. Hopefully he can now prove himself now and we should all be supporting that.
Which is fair enough, and Dimao should possibly be deserving of as much hype as Diego. Whether that counts as 'over-hype' I don't know.
But, I do think there's a couple of differences:
1) Diego is playing for a country under 18s that is more competitive. Yes, it's little more than junior level, but it's still exciting to see one of our own playing for an Italian national side and scoring absolute crackers on a regular basis.
2) I've no doubt that the constant rumours of big clubs watching Diego are true. The guesses on value are no doubt wide of the mark, but there will surely be interest in an Italian under 18 player who is evidently as skillful as Diego.
3) Perhaps most importantly, the club who he plays for (and watches him train) recognises his ability. Look at the hype around his signing pro-terms with a photoshoot to accompany it. All we usually get is "4 young players have signed pro terms", contrast that with this:
http://www.sufc.co.uk/news/article/20121029-diego-signs-on-449765.aspx
Now, if the club are hyping him to that extreme; how are the fans supposed to react?
It goes without saying that the lad's name and his heritage results in inordinate amount of hype, but I find the counter response even more baffling. All of a sudden he's not as exciting as other youngsters at the club, he's too big for his boots, his haircut doesn't come up the standards of the gaffer, he's wearing a cap to training, he's got cotton wool in his ears, he's driving a flash car with big rims, etc etc.
What happened to just being excited about a young player? Have we become blasé due to the number coming through the academy?
Have I read that he's had a "altercation" with Clough over a personalised reg plate? Or was that a dream? Genuinely can't remember
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