Outgoing? Diego Di Girolamo

[Kenilworth]

ps. You can't ignore a player for your first team then say he's worth money.
We deserve and will get sweet FA.
All because of Clough.
Same scenario as Whitehouse - which is probably yet another cue for Deigo getting out and not wasting his time here.
Never given a chance.
Journey men and other young loans given opportunities instead.
pps Where's MacFadzean? New contract talks to personna non grata overnight.
But yet all last years youth team (who won little if anything in the Youth Cup) were all signed up :?
Clough has cleared everyone out except Morgs mate Kennedy.
Deliberate policy.

Thought Fadz was injured

 

[UnitedBlade]

Further to the compensation issue, the rules regarding that are here:-

http://fullcontactlaw.co.uk/2014/05/compensation-players-24-mystery/

The key point being "Where a professional player, under the age of 24, has been offered a new contract by his club and he rejects that offer in order to take up the opportunity to sign for another club, compensation will be payable. In the majority of cases, clubs will reach mutual agreement on a compensation fee. However, in others the two clubs’ valuations will differ, sometimes significantly, and the matter will need to be settled through an arbitration process"

The idea that Chesterfield could sign him on a free because they're skint and his agent used to play for them is thankfully laughable.

However, as Fulwood Blade mentions if Diego refuses to sign a new contract by the end of January, we could well use Diego as a bargaining chip to get someone like Doyle in.

This sounds like what is happening. Maybe he could be a bargaining chip with Chesterfield involving another player.

I heard Clough had words with Diego last season and it looks like Diego hasn't done enough to warrant more first team opportunities at the Lane. The ACL injury came at a bad time for him and the club.

It's a shame because he definitely has talent. Looks like he'll have to prove that elsewhere.

I think the problem is he wouldn't work hard enough for the ways Clough likes to set up sides.

 

[finlaytheblade]

ps. You can't ignore a player for your first team then say he's worth money.
We deserve and will get sweet FA.
All because of Clough.
Same scenario as Whitehouse - which is probably yet another cue for Deigo getting out and not wasting his time here.
Never given a chance.
Journey men and other young loans given opportunities instead.
pps Where's MacFadzean? New contract talks to personna non grata overnight.
But yet all last years youth team (who won little if anything in the Youth Cup) were all signed up :?
Clough has cleared everyone out except Morgs mate Kennedy.
Deliberate policy.

in nigel we trust!!!!

 

[FleaPitBlade]

I'm yet to read or hear anything substantiated from anyone or anywhere that backs up the bi monthly posts about Diego being a bad'un or Clough not liking him.

 

[finlaytheblade]

This sounds like what is happening. Maybe he could be a bargaining chip with Chesterfield involving another player.

I heard Clough had words with Diego last season and it looks like Diego hasn't done enough to warrant more first team opportunities at the Lane. The ACL injury came at a bad time for him and the club.

It's a shame because he definitely has talent. Looks like he'll have to prove that elsewhere.

I think the problem is he wouldn't work hard enough for the ways Clough likes to set up sides.

he has been offered a new contract so if he goes thats his and his advises decision.

 

[UnitedBlade]

he has been offered a new contract so if he goes thats his and his advises decision.

Yes, but as Sothall says United are offering a contract so when it is rejected they will claim compensation for his development.

It is a process that United would follow even if they know he is leaving.

 

[bartman]

ps. You can't ignore a player for your first team then say he's worth money.
We deserve and will get sweet FA.
All because of Clough.
Same scenario as Whitehouse - which is probably yet another cue for Deigo getting out and not wasting his time here.
Never given a chance.
Journey men and other young loans given opportunities instead.
pps Where's MacFadzean? New contract talks to personna non grata overnight.
But yet all last years youth team (who won little if anything in the Youth Cup) were all signed up :?
Clough has cleared everyone out except Morgs mate Kennedy.
Deliberate policy.

I am assuming here that you are not on the wind up.

Should all youngsters be given a chance or only those the manager seems good enough ? DG had a long injury and when he has had his chance, hasn't exactly pulled up any trees (yet). Has the skill but is he the world beater that he has been hyped up to be by some . He doesn't appear to have a queue of tops clubs trying to get him on loan....oh hang on...unless you are saying York City are a top club. What makes you think he should be in the side ? Would you really play him instead of McNulty, JCR,Murphy or Baxter ?

McFadz is injured and on loan at Burton. Is he really better than what we have now . Also his indiscipline on nights out in Sheffield may be an issue to the club.

As for Whitehouse ,long term injury and now a World Class player at Notts County apparently !!!!

Who has Clough ignored for a year? What do you mean as by saying NC doesn't like him? If any manager doesn't rate a player(whether they are young or old) he doesn't have to pick them (despite the moaning from some supporters)

Finally, Kennedy playing because he is mates with Morgan ?....Yeah right, of course he does.

You didn't go to QPR did you ? Is that why you are so sad ?

 

[TarquinDelouche]

Be reight.

 

[Ben_1982]

He wouldn't be available on a free, his age will command compo

 

[Silent Blade]

And yet Clough appears to encourage the kids, e.g. Dimaio, Kennedy, Khan and Reed. Is the real issue the p[layer rather than the manager ? Is DG not as good as DG thinks he is ?

I have a feeling that Clough thinks Diego lacks the character to be a 1st team regular, many managers lose patience with youngsters who prefer to play in a "free role" rather than try to fit in the system. Diego's agent could be a problem just like Mark Rankine was when he was Jordan Slew's agent (Rankine persuaded Slew to ask for a transfer after not being picked for the 1st team and he went to Blackburn which wasnt a good career move for him- I understand SWFC refuse to deal with Rankine as he is a disruptive agent)

 

[Esablade]

I think it's a tough decision for the lad because he's been hyped a fair bit from a young age here at BDTBL.
He may well be thinking he'll get more opportunities elsewhere, but realistically, for that to be the case, he'll be moving to another L1 or a L2 club.

I'd like to see him stay and do well but if he's got the ambition and desire and feels he's not getting a fair crack here, then surely it's only natural to want first team football.

 

[davidpinder]

Perhaps Diego just needs to look around at players like Reed, Kennedy and the other young lads and if he's good enough he'll get a chance.

Not sure on the point about him "playing with freedom", does he mean that he just wants to play that he wants and not be part of a team? If thats the case then he again needs to look at the team that played yesterday and perhaps he can see why those young lads are getting their chances. They play in a system.

It's funny you should say this because I remember on FA cup semi final day before kick off Diego was outside pissed as a fart with his mates and I thought then this is a lad who hasn't the right attitude. I think he does need to look at reed and Kennedy and start trying to earn his place if he wants it, if the manager believes he is ready he will play him.

 

[Dandy]

I believe it's personal with Diego and the current manager. Let's not forget the current manager has form for that sort of thing. Diego has that something different and deserved a decent chance to showcase it. He'll leave and flourish elsewhere. I feel for some of the academy coaches who have put the time and effort into the lad only for the current manager to stunt his progress.

 

[Bladepicker]

The wife had to have one of those after she gave birth to our first born

Hahahahaha genuine laugh out loud moment. Well played

 

[bartman]

I believe it's personal with Diego and the current manager. Let's not forget the current manager has form for that sort of thing. .

I'll bite. On what basis do you think it is personal (apart from DG not being good enough for the 1st team yet) and what 'form' has NC got for 'that sort of thing'

 

[shorehamview]

I believe it's personal with Diego and the current manager. Let's not forget the current manager has form for that sort of thing. Diego has that something different and deserved a decent chance to showcase it. He'll leave and flourish elsewhere. I feel for some of the academy coaches who have put the time and effort into the lad only for the current manager to stunt his progress.

Why should Clough bend over backwards to accommodate every whim of a player with a grand total of seven first team appearances for Sheffield United? Oh, let's not forget the eight appearances for the mighty York City too. I suspect that young Diego may be getting to big for his boots. Time will tell.

 

[Bergen Blade]

I've been encouraged every time I've seen him and think it's really sad if he's leaving. One of the problems with him has been our formation. Clough ended up with a formation last season with only one central striker, a role De Girolamo doesn't really fit into. A 4-4-2 or a 4-4-1-1 hasn't suited our available midfielders, so Clough has been reluctant to go with that, and it's meant he's not even figured much on the bench.

If we signed O'Grady and found a good central midfield partnership in January I would have really liked to see O'Grady and Diego together.

 

[Dandy]

Personal - I don't think the going away with Italy ever went down too well. Form - decent first team footballers (butler, collins) frozen out for what would appear like non football reasons.

 

[Pinchy]

This is bollocks.
The manager doesn't like him will be delighted if he leaves and has only played him out of position as a left field mid – in place of others who could and have already played there!
How is getting somebody on in injury time at Colchester or wherever, then ignoring them for a year 'encouraging' them.
It's taking the piss!
Reed is the only one getting games - and even when he plays well he's left out.
And don't give me bollocks about resting.
10 years ago I was playing against 17 years olds in the mens leagues in the morning and reffing them in youth leagues in the afternoon.
FFS Can't he rest in between games and not flog himself to death in training :?

Good of you to summarise your post in your first sentence. Had I known that it was so accurate, it would have saved me reading the rest of the nonsense.

Here is the harsh truth. Whitehouse, McFadzean and Ironside have failed to make it. They are not going to have glittering careers elsewhere. Diego, if he goes the same way, will reflect that he ought to have listened a little more to NC and a little less to people like you, who do the lad no favours at all.

Players get every chance on the training pitch and in Under-21 games. If they shine, they get a chance. At the risk of repeating myself, we are a professional football club, not the fucking X Factor.

 

[Pinchy]

I believe it's personal with Diego and the current manager. Let's not forget the current manager has form for that sort of thing. Diego has that something different and deserved a decent chance to showcase it. He'll leave and flourish elsewhere. I feel for some of the academy coaches who have put the time and effort into the lad only for the current manager to stunt his progress.

The current poster is talking nonsense. Nigel Clough's job is to produce the best football team he can, not to run a fucking crèche. If Diego wants a shirt he should fight for it. That includes giving it his best shot in whatever position he is selected, not sulking and crying "Poor me".

How did all the young uns break through at Clough's Derby? Maybe because they proved themselves good enough?

NC is nurturing young Lewis Reed superbly. I'm sure the same service is available for the current Division Four substitute, if he wants it.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I believe it's personal with Diego and the current manager. Let's not forget the current manager has form for that sort of thing. Diego has that something different and deserved a decent chance to showcase it. He'll leave and flourish elsewhere. I feel for some of the academy coaches who have put the time and effort into the lad only for the current manager to stunt his progress.

Leave and flourish elsewhere, remind me, where is Slew the hero?

 

[alcoblade]

ps. You can't ignore a player for your first team then say he's worth money.
We deserve and will get sweet FA.
All because of Clough.
Same scenario as Whitehouse - which is probably yet another cue for Deigo getting out and not wasting his time here.
Never given a chance.
Journey men and other young loans given opportunities instead.
pps Where's MacFadzean? New contract talks to personna non grata overnight.
But yet all last years youth team (who won little if anything in the Youth Cup) were all signed up :?
Clough has cleared everyone out except Morgs mate Kennedy.
Deliberate policy.

My hunch is that Clough will be proved right. I think most of the young crop you mention are just not good enough. It's not in anyone's interest to play them regardless just to see, or to ignore them if they're good enough.

The academy is a means to an end, not an end in itself. Some seem to lose sight of this.

UTB

 

[A19 byf]

And yet Clough appears to encourage the kids, e.g. Dimaio, Kennedy, Khan and Reed. Is the real issue the p[layer rather than the manager ? Is DG not as good as DG thinks he is ?

Can you explain the encouragement clough has given to Dimaio and khan he gave khan a couple of run outs from the bench last season and Dimaio started 2 games and was man of the match in both yet this season the best they have done is one bench for khan and 2 benches for Dimaio. Dimaio was given his chance last season and grabbed it with both hands then this season dropped with no explanation and it's very rare either of the two train with the first team.

 

[JohnDenver]

Leave and flourish elsewhere, remind me, where is Slew the hero?

Interesting example Slew. He showed how it's easy to move up too early and stall a promising career.

In that light Diego is right to be impatient, and right to want games - he's shown he's willing to play at a lower level to do it. However, he's wholly wrong IF he's going about matters in the way suggested here. He can easily remain contracted to SUFC and play 6 months elsewhere. Just about every Div2 club would take him now. There won't be so many takers higher up yet.

 

[A19 byf]

......... and there's me thinking that he wasn't getting a game as he had an ACL injury to recover from.
Odd if you'd expect to walk straight into a team from day one after coming back from such a long lay off.
Surely the best way to strengthen and develop and get game time is by going out on loan - since there are no competitive reserve games any more.
You then get recalled so you are not cup tied with your loan team and go back on loan afterwards - for the good of the club that holds your registration.
How silly do I feel now?


The only thing I would say is that he has not been played in a position he can be effective in, he was played wide left in his only start this campaign, - so is he better than McNuts? No, of course not - and look how patient he has had to be.

If this is really his attitude then he will struggle to settle anywhere as he clearly sees himself as some billy big bollocks and he is not demonstrating that he is a team player. He hasn't torn up league 2 as far as I can tell - he has been steady in a struggling team but nothing more - how this translates to automatic pick for SUFC in the position they are in? That's some warped logic to justify, that is.

Has flo come straight back into the team from a long lay off ??? Yes he has

 

[JohnDenver]

Has flo come straight back into the team from a long lay off ??? Yes he has

That reminds me - was he injured or dropped on Sunday?

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Certainly rings true and more's the pity.

True skills and natural ability only come along every so often and should be valued and developed. The lad has not been encouraged by Clough as far as I can see and nobody could blame him for choosing his club when the time suits him.

Woodwardfan. none of us know the full story with young Diego . The lad has been out with a career threatening injury , and is being eased back into the game . Playing for Italy U17 and U18 does not mean a lot for making a top career in football . Just look at the England teams at that age and not many make it to the top tier.

The lad does have ability in abundance , and perhaps like a number of our players , may well find a higher level of football easier in in personal development . He appears not to be encouraged by Mr Clough ,only in the fact when he has had first team football , he has been played out of position , and not really contributed to changing a game , which his skill should provide.

If there is any truth in Rossb123 post , then it looks like he will be on his way , with the club were he would excel being Bournemouth.

My view after SUFC paying his wages for a year , when injured and assisting him back to fitness , he should stick with the blades.

He will get his chance under Mr Clough , but loyalty and patience is required , which is lacking in football , due to agents .(Paddy Kenny comes to mind , when banned for 9 months , gets paid and leaves not soon after)

It is all about what is going into his contract and the staged salary offer.

If the player , agent , his mum and dad can perhaps get some assurances , and stays , he will develop as SUFC develop .If he decides to go , good luck to him , but this time let us milk the situation ,and use him in part of a transfer deal , or get as much money as we can for him.

Like with Harry , if you do not want it with the blades shirt on , get rid , whoever you are . No player , whatever age is bigger than the club , and in his case , not that a major loss , with not yet making any real impact.

UTB

 

[Bergen Blade]

Can you explain the encouragement clough has given to Dimaio and khan he gave khan a couple of run outs from the bench last season and Dimaio started 2 games and was man of the match in both yet this season the best they have done is one bench for khan and 2 benches for Dimaio. Dimaio was given his chance last season and grabbed it with both hands then this season dropped with no explanation and it's very rare either of the two train with the first team.

I think Clough suggested Dimaio didn't return in very good form physically after the summer. Was that true? Was it because of an injury, or was he a bit sloppy whilst on holiday? Good to see him back in the squad yesterday by the way, hopefully he'll get his chance soon.

 

[alcoblade]

Can you explain the encouragement clough has given to Dimaio and khan he gave khan a couple of run outs from the bench last season and Dimaio started 2 games and was man of the match in both yet this season the best they have done is one bench for khan and 2 benches for Dimaio. Dimaio was given his chance last season and grabbed it with both hands then this season dropped with no explanation and it's very rare either of the two train with the first team.

Perhaps they've just been shite in training? If players are better than what's in front of them, can you think of a reason why a manager, who is judged solely on success, would ignore them?

UTB

 

[A19 byf]

Perhaps they've just been shite in training? If players are better than what's in front of them, can you think of a reason why a manager, who is judged solely on success, would ignore them?

UTB

Some of the players have asked coaching staff why is Dimaio not playing and training with them this says a lot dose it not