Outgoing? Diego Di Girolamo

[Revolution]

Diego may be poorly advised - I don't know, I've never met him or his advisors.

He may think he's bigger than the club - I don't know, I've never met him.

What I do know is he's a young lad, and if he's like most other lads that age, it really isn't worth taking apart every sentence he utters or forensically analysing his instagram feed.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

so Brayford wears a stupid hat?

Just checking.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Isn't it clear evidence that he thinks defending is not really his game?

If anything is clear it's that Diego is half-hearted about the need to do what is best for the team.

It may also be the way a coach improves a player's appreciation of what the game involves. This type of shift in attitude can improve a player and develop his contribution to the team's performance. Young Diego really would do well to listen to wiser heads. Clough managed to take hold of both Murphy and Flynn. Before Clough was appointed manager both players were going nowhere fast. Talent without application, in most walks of life, is a road littered with potential that never materialised.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Who can blame him? He's scored 5 grown-up goals in his glittering career, you know. Why on earth should he want advice from proper international and top-flight striker Nigel Clough. Daft Daddy Diego knows best.

As for the hat. It's about discipline and standards not whether it looks ridiculous (it does) or not.

The kid is a novice. He's not in a position to issue statements declaring what his 'game is about'. He should be listening and learning. If he continues on that self-indulgent, arrogant path his game will be about the Conference.

none league football is littered with failed acadamy players some earn a second chance but have to show a willingness to work hard skill alone will get you no where.Cloughy has been trying to impress this on diego but obviously he does,nt want to know.Italy is no different and he would get found out there maybe all this media talk will arm him with some determination to prove us wrong.Ihope he does as to lose talent like he has got is a shame but the modern game is about running and hard work allied to talent. COME ON DIEGO PROVE US ALL WRONG.

 

[Silent Blade]

Isn't it clear evidence that he thinks defending is not really his game?

Then he is unlikely to have a long career in top level football. Bobby Robson said in his autobiography that he had never forgotten good advice from Bertie Mee (manager of Arsenal who won the double in 1971) which was "if there is a player, no matter how good he is, is disruptive in the dressing room then get rid of him as soon as you can.

 

[Bladesway]

It's a good case in point. Many would focus on the fact that he's wearing a cap and looks a twat, and miss the minor detail that he's a fucking exceptional manager.

UTB

But not being called Giorgio Scorchio De Crisci is he ever going to be recognised as a good manager?

 

[Revolution]

Then he is unlikely to have a long career in top level football. Bobby Robson said in his autobiography that he had never forgotten good advice from Bertie Mee (manager of Arsenal who won the double in 1971) which was "if there is a player, no matter how good he is, is disruptive in the dressing room then get rid of him as soon as you can.

Howard Wilkinson did that with Cantona. Didn't work out so well.

 

[mattbianco1]

As for the hat. It's about discipline and standards not whether it looks ridiculous (it does) or not.

The kid is a novice. He's not in a position to issue statements declaring what his 'game is about'. He should be listening and learning. If he continues on that self-indulgent, arrogant path his game will be about the Conference.

^^^Think that nails it for me^^^

He's young and not getting a game. Maybe he should think about how to get a game rather than slag off the club he is employed by.

What I do know is he's a young lad, and if he's like most other lads that age, it really isn't worth taking apart every sentence he utters or forensically analysing his instagram feed.

I follow him on Instagram, as I do a few other Blades players. It was a rumour a year ago that he had been pulled regarding his Hat. 12 months later this image pops up on his feed and you think - maybe there may be legs in the rumour?!

 

[wizadry]

I don't know if people know this but Diego is a forward player and should therefore do his best bits up pitch, including score goals. I don't expect defenders to score goals in the same way i don't expect Diego to be good at defending, if these two things do become known to the individual then fine but first things first and that's for Diego to get better at what he's already best at, attacking.

Why should he concentrate on the defensive side of his game to the detriment of his attacking game?

You never remember Costa, Van Persie, Aguero, Done, Eoin Doyle or Callum Wilson for their defensive capabilities so why should Diego be any different and why should he not want to work on what he already specialises in?

Also, i like to judge players on talent and not what they do or say in different aspects of the media.

 

[mattbianco1]

I don't know if people know this but Diego is a forward player and should therefore do his best bits up pitch, including score goals. I don't expect defenders to score goals in the same way i don't expect Diego to be good at defending, if these two things do become known to the individual then fine but first things first and that's for Diego to get better at what he's already best at, attacking.

Why should he concentrate on the defensive side of his game to the detriment of his attacking game?

You never remember Costa, Van Persie, Aguero, Done, Eoin Doyle or Callum Wilson for their defensive capabilities so why should Diego be any different and why should he not want to work on what he already specialises in?

Also, i like to judge players on talent and not what they do or say in different aspects of the media.

Yes but Diego has been used on the wing more than as a CF. One of Flynn's best attributes is his ability to drop back and help the defence. Nobody likes a lazy winger.

If Clough wants to play him on the left, he has to drop back to help Harris.

 

[metalblade]

I don't know if people know this but Diego is a forward player and should therefore do his best bits up pitch, including score goals. I don't expect defenders to score goals in the same way i don't expect Diego to be good at defending, if these two things do become known to the individual then fine but first things first and that's for Diego to get better at what he's already best at, attacking.

Why should he concentrate on the defensive side of his game to the detriment of his attacking game?

You never remember Costa, Van Persie, Aguero, Done, Eoin Doyle or Callum Wilson for their defensive capabilities so why should Diego be any different and why should he not want to work on what he already specialises in?

Also, i like to judge players on talent and not what they do or say in different aspects of the media.

I suppose all these top attacking players stand about on the halfway line and leave it to the back four when the other team get on the ball. It is more than ever a team game today with little room to accommodate the old style mavericks or flair players

 

[Nedski]

Yes but Diego has been used on the wing more than as a CF. One of Flynn's best attributes is his ability to drop back and help the defence. Nobody likes a lazy winger.

If Clough wants to play him on the left, he has to drop back to help Harris.

Diego isn't a winger! He CAN play on the right wing, but his natural position is as a striker playing off another. His game has no defensive attributes whatsoever, he's a skilfull forward who is there to score goals.

A lot of people having a pop at him neglect the fact that the day he scored for us, he was playing in his natural position. All the other games he was shoved on the left wing. Others seem to think because he's a left footed attacker he's automatically a left winger.

He's had one chance in the position he's grown up to play in. He scored in that game. He should have had a lot more opportunities up front but Nigel "new better". I'm very confident we've made a massive cock up here

 

[Silent Blade]

Diego isn't a winger! He CAN play on the right wing, but his natural position is as a striker playing off another. His game has no defensive attributes whatsoever, he's a skilfull forward who is there to score goals.

A lot of people having a pop at him neglect the fact that the day he scored for us, he was playing in his natural position. All the other games he was shoved on the left wing. Others seem to think because he's a left footed attacker he's automatically a left winger.

He's had one chance in the position he's grown up to play in. He scored in that game. He should have had a lot more opportunities up front but Nigel "new better". I'm very confident we've made a massive cock up here

Not many teams have been playing 4-4-2 nowadays

 

[Sirius]

Not many teams have been playing 4-4-2 nowadays

The better teams are able to play 4-4-2 and quickly switch formations. Are we able to do that easily?

 

[Silent Blade]

The better teams are able to play 4-4-2 and quickly switch formations. Are we able to do that easily?

How many teams have been starting 4-4-2 with success this season? Chelsea, Man City and Arsenal have been playing with 4-5-1 from the start in most of the games this season

 

[Liaminho9]

Diego isn't a winger! He CAN play on the right wing, but his natural position is as a striker playing off another. His game has no defensive attributes whatsoever, he's a skilfull forward who is there to score goals.

A lot of people having a pop at him neglect the fact that the day he scored for us, he was playing in his natural position. All the other games he was shoved on the left wing. Others seem to think because he's a left footed attacker he's automatically a left winger.

He's had one chance in the position he's grown up to play in. He scored in that game. He should have had a lot more opportunities up front but Nigel "new better". I'm very confident we've made a massive cock up here

Football is about adaptability, and frankly unless you're a 6ft target man, attacking players need to be able to play more than one position. Modern day footballers need to be versatile.

Done and Murphy can both play up front and out wide. Baxter can play up front or central midfield.

 

[Pinchy]

Diego isn't a winger! He CAN play on the right wing, but his natural position is as a striker playing off another. His game has no defensive attributes whatsoever, he's a skilfull forward who is there to score goals.

A lot of people having a pop at him neglect the fact that the day he scored for us, he was playing in his natural position. All the other games he was shoved on the left wing. Others seem to think because he's a left footed attacker he's automatically a left winger.

He's had one chance in the position he's grown up to play in. He scored in that game. He should have had a lot more opportunities up front but Nigel "new better". I'm very confident we've made a massive cock up here

I think it's beyond argument that Nigel Clough knows better than a novice footballer and his daft dad, isn't it?

Had the young man done enough at his own level to demand 'opportunities' then he would have got them, just like other young players at The Lane and Derby before that.

It's not the X Factor. It's professional football. Young players are here to benefit our club, not the other way round. If the young man wants to learn his trade at a great club, there's a contract on the table....

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I think it's beyond argument that Nigel Clough knows better than a novice footballer and his daft dad, isn't it?

Had the young man done enough at his own level to demand 'opportunities' then he would have got them, just like other young players at The Lane and Derby before that.

It's not the X Factor. It's professional football. Young players are here to benefit our club, not the other way round. If the young man wants to learn his trade at a great club, there's a contract on the table....

Perhaps he can't have that No 17 shirt that makes legends.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Diego isn't a winger! He CAN play on the right wing, but his natural position is as a striker playing off another. His game has no defensive attributes whatsoever, he's a skilfull forward who is there to score goals.

A lot of people having a pop at him neglect the fact that the day he scored for us, he was playing in his natural position. All the other games he was shoved on the left wing. Others seem to think because he's a left footed attacker he's automatically a left winger.

He's had one chance in the position he's grown up to play in. He scored in that game. He should have had a lot more opportunities up front but Nigel "new better". I'm very confident we've made a massive cock up here

The other thing Diego isn't and that's the finished product.

Picture this, a manager asks you to be ready to support other members of your team, it might involve helping a defender, a perfectly reasonable request I'd have thought. Yet the response the manager receives from the player is an objection to this request. Does this bode well for the future? Does it suggest that the player will pick and choose which instructions to follow? Should the player be given special dispensation because he's the 'special one', and knows far more than about the tactical demands of the game than several experienced coaching staff?

Compare the respective merits, a 19-year-old player, an exciting prospect, but unproven and with so much to learn. Then we have a coaching staff, varying experiences, highly knowledgeable about football. Their lives are based on improving the players they work with, and all they expect is for their players to listen and follow their instruction. They, the coaches, appreciate that not everything will work, but this is a part of educating young players. They, the young players, have to be prepared to try new ideas, ways of playing that will improve their game as well as that of the team.

Diego may be talented, but none of this tells anyone whether he's prepared to listen, learn, and become a far more rounded and better player. What's been described in the previous post wasn't designed to harm Diego as a player, in fact it was meant to improve his overall awareness of the game as a whole. Diego chose to reject this advice, and in doing so informed those coaches who are far more experienced than the young lad that there's an attitude problem.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

The other thing Diego isn't and that's the finished product.

Picture this, a manager asks you to be ready to support other members of your team, it might involve helping a defender, a perfectly reasonable request I'd have thought. Yet the response the manager receives from the player is an objection to this request. Does this bode well for the future? Does it suggest that the player will pick and choose which instructions to follow? Should the player be given special dispensation because he's the 'special one', and knows far more than about the tactical demands of the game than several experienced coaching staff?

Compare the respective merits, a 19-year-old player, an exciting prospect, but unproven and with so much to learn. Then we have a coaching staff, varying experiences, highly knowledgeable about football. Their lives are based on improving the players they work with, and all they expect is for their players to listen and follow their instruction. They, the coaches, appreciate that not everything will work, but this is a part of educating young players. They, the young players, have to be prepared to try new ideas, ways of playing that will improve their game as well as that of the team.

Diego may be talented, but none of this tells anyone whether he's prepared to listen, learn, and become a far more rounded and better player. What's been described in the previous post wasn't designed to harm Diego as a player, in fact it was meant to improve his overall awareness of the game as a whole. Diego chose to reject this advice, and in doing so informed those coaches who are far more experienced than the young lad that there's an attitude problem.

This hasn't happened. Do you seriously think that Clough would have offered him a new contract if it had?

Diego has apparently said to a reporter that defending isn't the best part of his game.
That doesn't mean that he's told his manager that he won't follow his instructions
It doesn't mean he's refused to help out defensively when he's playing.
No manager on earth would pick a player who outright refused to do that.
Certainly not Clough. Probably not Wilcox or the Italian U20 manager either.
People are blowing an ill-advised comment to a newspaper out of all proportion.

The facts are that Diego has correctly surmised that he doesn't fit easily into Clough's preferred system,
He's not ideally suited to being a lone front man or a winger or an attacking midfielder.
His best position seems to be as a second striker or just behind in the "number 10" role.
Clough usually plays a formation that requires neither of these, so his chances are going to be limited.

I don't blame Clough for not playing him and I don't blame Diego for recognising the fact he won't be played much. It's just one of those things.
As long as we get adequate compensation, everyone can benefit from him moving on.

 

[Silent Blade]

His best position seems to be as a second striker or just behind in the "number 10" role.
.

Not many teams play a system that has someone playing in the hole behind the striker

 

[itsinyerblood]

This hasn't happened. Do you seriously think that Clough would have offered him a new contract if it had?

Diego has apparently said to a reporter that defending isn't the best part of his game.
That doesn't mean that he's told his manager that he won't follow his instructions
It doesn't mean he's refused to help out defensively when he's playing.
No manager on earth would pick a player who outright refused to do that.
Certainly not Clough. Probably not Wilcox or the Italian U20 manager either.
People are blowing an ill-advised comment to a newspaper out of all proportion.

The facts are that Diego has correctly surmised that he doesn't fit easily into Clough's preferred system,
He's not suited to being a lone front man or a winger or an attacking midfielder.
His best position seems to be as a second striker or just behind in the "number 10" role.
Clough usually plays a formation that requires neither of these, so his chances are going to be limited.

I don't blame Clough for not playing him and I don't blame Diego for recognising the fact he won't be played much. It's just one of those things.
As long as we get adequate compensation, everyone can benefit from him moving on.

You know this categorically?

The facts are far from clear, instead of your insistence that you appear to have been a fly on the wall when said conversations took place. In spite of offering a contract to the player my guess is that Diego, his dad (and yes, I know there are those who consider his dad's opinion in all of this to be minimal, a bit like there being cheese on the moon no doubt), and whoever Diego's agent might be, will have all contributed to the decision to leave the club regardless of a contract being offered. Do you think that Diego won't have had his ear bent by players from Italian clubs? Thus filling his head with the notion that he's a much better fit for an established Italian club than a lower division English club.

I'm bored with this. I hope things work out for Diego, but I think he needs a serious injection of common-sense on a constant basis. Which doesn't include papa di Girolamo or whoever thinks they're the next great novice appraiser of an impressionable player's talent.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Not many teams play a system that has someone playing in the hole behind the striker

No, but quite a lot play 4-4-2. Interesting comments here from Russ Wilcox:-

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/yo...irolamo_primed_for__number_ten__role/?ref=mac

"I think Diego's best position is in that number-ten role off the main striker. He played on the right-hand side for Italy this week for 15 minutes in a 4-4-2 before he was moved behind the striker for the last half-hour and, when you have quality players in the group, it's important to get them in the right areas on the pitch, but he also has to be flexible. Michael Coulson is probably more flexible than Diego though and could play in all four attacking positions."

Wilcox recognises as Clough does and as Diego himself does that he's not as flexible as other players who can play many positions.
It doesn't mean that Diego has refused to play on the wing, just that the other player is better suited to it.

 

[Kev Gee]

Theres some right cringewrothy & bitter comments in this thread.

Whos the 19 year old? Diego or some of you lot?
He may look a twat but you all probably looked like twats at 19 as well. And probably thought you had cracked life as well. ( I know I certainly thought I knew how the world worked.)

He wants to play regular football. He probably wont get that here so has decided to leave.

I hope he does well for himself.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

You know this categorically?

The facts are far from clear, instead of your insistence that you appear to have been a fly on the wall when said conversations took place

I wasn't a fly on the wall. Neither were you.
I haven't seen anyone other than you suggest that Diego told Clough he wouldn't help out defensively.
What makes you think he said this to Clough? When did he say it?
As a manager, would you offer him a new contract and continue to play him if he said that to you?

 

[itsinyerblood]

I wasn't a fly on the wall. Neither were you.
I haven't seen anyone other than you suggest that Diego told Clough he wouldn't help out defensively.
What makes you think he said this to Clough? When did he say it?
As a manager, would you offer him a new contract and continue to play him if said that to you?

Good, so we've established that neither you or I were within earshot. As I've written, I'm bored with this. There appears to be those who describe Diego as someone who simply wants to play football. Strange one that, a footballer wants to play football, who'd have thought it? The over simplified description of United offering a contract doesn't negate the player already deciding to move on. He's now no part of this club's present or future. Whatever's transpired has contributed to the youngster's decision. Good luck to him.

 

[Silent Blade]

No, but quite a lot play 4-4-2. Interesting comments here from Russ Wilcox:-

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/yo...irolamo_primed_for__number_ten__role/?ref=mac

"I think Diego's best position is in that number-ten role off the main striker. He played on the right-hand side for Italy this week for 15 minutes in a 4-4-2 before he was moved behind the striker for the last half-hour and, when you have quality players in the group, it's important to get them in the right areas on the pitch, but he also has to be flexible. Michael Coulson is probably more flexible than Diego though and could play in all four attacking positions."

Wilcox recognises as Clough does and as Diego himself does that he's not as flexible as other players who can play many positions.
It doesn't mean that Diego has refused to play on the wing, just that the other player is better suited to it.

I would prefer us to play a system that suits the team rather than play a system that suits just one player. If Diego is not flexible enough (Clough probaby wanted him to be more of an all round player) then it would surprise me if he has a long career at the top level

 

[HoodedClaw]

This hasn't happened. Do you seriously think that Clough would have offered him a new contract if it had?

We have to offer a contract or we aren't entitled to compensation if he leaves.

I don't blame Clough for not playing him and I don't blame Diego for recognising the fact he won't be played much. It's just one of those things.
As long as we get adequate compensation, everyone can benefit from him moving on.

Totally agree with this. He doesn't fit Cloughs system, and there are better more experienced players in front of him, if he wants to play football now the only way is for him to leave.

 

[puppet]

Sorry but he looks like an arrogant little ballbag, though I'm marginally more offended by the 'tache than the cap. Can't get in a slowly progressing Blades team, can't score for York City... he's really not up to much is he?

 

[super_pig]

the Italians seem to think so