Derek Dooley

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I agree we need that type of person ,Warnock saw first hand what he did ,however I would put the start of our decline coinciding more with Warnock leaving than Dooley. Kenworthy says a lot of things about Dooley in his book ,lets say he wasn't his favourite person .
theres always people who dislike someone in large organisations
Id wager not all of Kenworthys team mates loved him while he was here
 



He obviously did a good job and was a very knowledgable connection between the manager and the muppet board members.

During his tenure as managing director and chairman he was part of a team that oversaw two promotions to the top flight and also two very stable and consistent times in the clubs history under Bassett and Warnock.

No coincidence that since he left and wasn't adequately replaced there have been some awful decisions made at board room level.

The perfect guy to do a Dooley esq job would be Warnock. And that's not a 'Bladey' reason as some would say. We need someone with tremendous experience in the game, someone who knows what it's like to operate on a smaller budget, someone who has got a good eye for a player and a lot of contacts, someone who has experience of promotion and at all levels of the game and finally someone who is at the very end of his career management wise. If he's a blade and knows the expectation of our fans then that's a bonus.

The perfect candidate is Warnock.
Warnock has too big an ego for that role. A better choice would be Howard Wilkinson. local man with all the knowledge and no secret desire for the managers job
;)
 
Warnock has too big an ego for that role. A better choice would be Howard Wilkinson. local man with all the knowledge and no secret desire for the managers job
;)
Wilkinson would sabotage us.
 
Not mincing you words last few days mukka are you.
You aren't far away with that one though
Im on the button LE as one of his victims and I would stand up in court.
Ive not been bummed by him though can I just emphasise that ,mines exit only ,apart from a nice nurse with a suppository on A4 ,anyway Im rambling :)
 
As ever, I reject the usual talk about Dooley, and the DOF role, etc.

Our demise is entirely linked to the loss of Warnock, coupled by the drive to reject the things that had brought us success. Not only did we have to win, we had to do it in a certain way (ethos, youth, "playing the right way")..

We've been failing on all counts ever since , but there are still huge sections of the fan base who haven't grasped it.

UTB
 
It's probably better to do that on your own terms that have someone come after you for comments made on a message board.
There are so many people who know the truth ,3 figures at a guess ,when he was made England manager ,a group of us seriously thought of going to the NOTW ,not for financial gain but to tell the truth about this man.
 
As ever, I reject the usual talk about Dooley, and the DOF role, etc.

Our demise is entirely linked to the loss of Warnock, coupled by the drive to reject the things that had brought us success. Not only did we have to win, we had to do it in a certain way (ethos, youth, "playing the right way")..

We've been failing on all counts ever since , but there are still huge sections of the fan base who haven't grasped it.

UTB

to be fair Blackwell did quite well on greatly reduced resources , from a position of looking like getting relegated, was unlucky Burnley had a slightly better team
 



to be fair Blackwell did quite well on greatly reduced resources , from a position of looking like getting relegated, was unlucky Burnley had a slightly better team
He did, but I'd be fairly confident that the cost of the team that Blackwell managed, in terms of value and wages, was still far, far greater than the one Warnock got promoted.

UTB
 
He did, but I'd be fairly confident that the cost of the team that Blackwell managed, in terms of value and wages, was still far, far greater than the one Warnock got promoted.

UTB

dont think thered be much in it considering all the high wages players he had to dispense with ,
 
Derek Dooley on his first game for Lincoln City reserves:

"When I got there someone threw me a red and white shirt to play in. Well, I didn't know what Lincoln's colours were. But that was sacrilege to me because Sheffield United played in red and white. I was a Wednesdayite. In Sheffield you had to be one or the other."

And we built him a statue...
 
dont think thered be much in it considering all the high wages players he had to dispense with ,
I'd bet Blackwell's teams wage bill was double Warnock's promotion team. It went up significantly in the Premier League, obviously. Then it went ballistic under Robson, though to be fair to Blackwell he was managing it downwards, which is difficult.

UTB
 
Derek Dooley on his first game for Lincoln City reserves:

"When I got there someone threw me a red and white shirt to play in. Well, I didn't know what Lincoln's colours were. But that was sacrilege to me because Sheffield United played in red and white. I was a Wednesdayite. In Sheffield you had to be one or the other."

And we built him a statue...
You're bang on it there Rev but when Wendy sacked him Xmas eve a lot of blue and white drained out of him.
 
You're bang on it there Rev but when Wendy sacked him Xmas eve a lot of blue and white drained out of him.
Ive had money stolen from me by Utd ,threatened with bailiffs ,and heartbroken thousands of times. Ive never wavered.
 
to be fair Blackwell did quite well on greatly reduced resources , from a position of looking like getting relegated, was unlucky Burnley had a slightly better team


Slightly/ in fact much better manager in fact. Their team was not better than ours. Study the line-ups, it's very clear.
 
yes why ?
So have I and I enjoy the banter and I'm sure you do.
It's this DD thing you haven't got much time for him because of his history with the blue and white.
If he'd have managed you with a couple of Sunday sides and you've had some good days you would have said the same as me about him.
 
Maybe ,had some run ins with his son which have formed an opinion on me ,proper dick he is and pig through and through. The statue and road piss me off ,he wasn't an Alan Woodward or a Brian Clough. the couple of times I have met him have been outside of football and I couldn't really form an opinion ,but as a football fan I have no respect for anyone who swaps their allegiance especially Wendy-Blade or reverse.
 
Maybe ,had some run ins with his son which have formed an opinion on me ,proper dick he is and pig through and through. The statue and road piss me off ,he wasn't an Alan Woodward or a Brian Clough. the couple of times I have met him have been outside of football and I couldn't really form an opinion ,but as a football fan I have no respect for anyone who swaps their allegiance especially Wendy-Blade or reverse.
Yep Dooleys lad always was a tosser always hid behind others.
Debate over I'm with you on most of your points.
That post from Rev tickled me but at the time I reckon Dooley meant it at the time
Like the old time Wendy who wouldn't eat bacon.
 
What strikes me at this late stage is the sudden lauding of Dooley who never, ever struck me as a key figure during the years he was here, more a calming, steady eddie. Maybe that's worth a lot but FGS on his salary many people could be steady-eddies, just agreeing with the owners.

I've no problem with ex-S6'ers coming over to the bright side, but I never heard Dooley say anything I learned from.

I wouldn't know, but were all his years Glory years?
 



I sponsored Brian Gayle through my company one year and paid up front for it ( £500 which was quite a bit then). Anyway towards the end of the season I got a letter from Utd demanding payment ,I contacted them and told them it had been paid. Couple of weeks later stronger letters came and then my 'debt' was passed on to a collection agency who threatened bailiffs if I didn't pay within days. I wrote to the board of directors explaining the situation ,that I was a Blade of 20 odd years etc etc , my biggest client of the time was Irwin Mitchell who were much smaller then ,and a lawyer I was friendly with gave a trainee a challenge to sort it out with no fee for me. Never heard another thing from Utd ,no apology , nothing ,it turned out Paul woolhouse had set up a bank account in the name of Sheff Utd and had stolen loads including my cheque before disappearing and Utd were of course embarrassed about it. My season ticket the following season was bought semi reluctantly but Im a Blade and Woolhouse was a crook ,the board and employees of Utd are temporary but supporters are permanent and that's why I cant agree with Dooley or anyone else swapping their allegiance. UTB
 

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